Are Venos OP?

Incindere - Harshlands
Incindere - Harshlands Posts: 23 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Venomancer
Are they in comparison to other classes? b:cuteb:shutupb:thanks
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  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You really have nothing better to do? For real...
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yep. I puri my herc, plus I ninja some invincibility pots on him so nothing can ever kill him. My herc also picks up all my **** on the ground, gives my veno massages, and makes breakfast in the morning. He also one shots Harpy Wraith by doing a flying elbow drop from the sky on it. Definitely OP.
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    someone delete this dumb thread, please.
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  • StretchIt - Harshlands
    StretchIt - Harshlands Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yep. I puri my herc, plus I ninja some invincibility pots on him so nothing can ever kill him. My herc also picks up all my **** on the ground, gives my veno massages, and makes breakfast in the morning. He also one shots Harpy Wraith by doing a flying elbow drop from the sky on it. Definitely OP.

    i felt the aftershock of that elbow drop in HL. knocked me out of stealth b:surrender
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    me felt teh aftershock as well.
    me fell off a 3 1/2 feet high table while trying to nom on some bread.
    (T.T)
    me had no nom because of that.
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  • ExtraTwisted - Dreamweaver
    ExtraTwisted - Dreamweaver Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Incindere - Harshlands wrote: »
    Are they in comparison to other classes? b:cuteb:shutupb:thanks

    Aww, tell us Incindere, what did that mean venomancer do to you? b:sad
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Incindere - Harshlands wrote: »
    Are they in comparison to other classes? b:cuteb:shutupb:thanks

    Why yes. Yes we are. :P (sarcasm intended)

    But, obviously you wouldnt be asking if you didn't think they were.
    >.<
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    wait what?
    Veno's shouldnt even be in the game.
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  • Furfuf - Lost City
    Furfuf - Lost City Posts: 97 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    me felt teh aftershock as well.
    me fell off a 3 1/2 feet high table while trying to nom on some bread.
    (T.T)
    me had no nom because of that.
    Q_Q
    Thats not good!
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  • Incindere - Harshlands
    Incindere - Harshlands Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This is way freakin funnier than I thought. And I kinda sorta do cause of the whole soloing deal. But not too much.
  • SilverCleric - Lost City
    SilverCleric - Lost City Posts: 1,969 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Incindere - Harshlands wrote: »
    This is way freakin funnier than I thought. And I kinda sorta do cause of the whole soloing deal. But not too much.

    That's what veno's are suppose to be.
    They are suppose to be able to solo FB's TT's and etc at a certain lvl.
    And nobody can say that they are over powered since they have been nurfed a bunch of times because of many others QQing abut them. ijs
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  • Sadpuma - Heavens Tear
    Sadpuma - Heavens Tear Posts: 286 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Venos are over powered in the mid to thje mid-high lvl and gearing in both pve and pvp. While this may be the case for the majority of our levels, it doesnt stay this way for pvp issues....

    Yes, the nix is glitched (bleed in specific) and too many veno's take advantage of it. If it was fixed our magic damage (which is the lowest dmg for ALL classes) + our pets dmg would put us on an equal maybe even a slightly higher playing field....

    The problem here lies in the higher levels like 100+ and with end game gear being refined to +10 or more on everything. If this happens (depending on shards) the veno could potentially be the most underpowered class of ALL including the nix's bleed glitch.

    When your gear is refined that high you will have over 10K hp, unless you didnt plan your rings, belt, and necklace correct you will have very high def in both phys and mag, and so will your oppenent.......

    The nix's bleed will NOT tick their charm and i would personally be surprised if it even got 25% of their hp off. All that defense is going to block a majority of the nixes attack. Our attack being to +10 or more in this scenario, will still not hit them all that hard (keeping in mind they have +10 or more gear on as well as you and our mag att is the lowest of all classes).

    If the pker has any common sense they will kill the nix, eliminating it with one or two shots and with it, part of our attack spectrum. Once the nix is eliminated, unless you know how to play your class (and even then it is an uphill battle) you will lose or it will be a draw (the most likely case for a barb, unless they get lucky with an armageddon.)ALL the other classes are made to be able to attack on their own, Clerics, archers, wizzies, BM's, barbs (we said barbs are iffy), even the new tideborns will all kill you.

    Some people may disagree, but i can assure you that when it comes to pk, in the end-game, venos are under powered. So love it up when you are lower-level and everyone has **** gear
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  • Incindere - Harshlands
    Incindere - Harshlands Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Makes sense. Sounds like the story of an archer's life.
  • _miryoku_ - Heavens Tear
    _miryoku_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    How come your all so mean? He asked a simple question, no need to be sarcastic... Just answer his question... Only Sadpuma was nice enough to answer appropriately.
    Well back on subject...I don't know much about Veno's, but I do not think they are over-powered. Just slighly better in PvE that's all^^
  • Jennalicious - Sanctuary
    Jennalicious - Sanctuary Posts: 1,073 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No, Venos are not overpowered. The Veno class is for players who play solo the majority of their time. We can solo a lot of things that other classes cannot. It doesn't mean we're overpowered, it just means that we're doing what the class is intended to do. You want to talk about overpowered? Go discuss the Tideborns. They are overpowered.
  • Shulkie - Dreamweaver
    Shulkie - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,529 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    a lazy troll is a fail troll - use search and add to existing threads about veno's 'supposed' OPness

    Is there like a forum prize for posting the 500th repeat post or something?
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  • Yulk - Heavens Tear
    Yulk - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,951 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Veno's herc and nix should be OP, well more OP, because they did spend $200 USD after all. Best to make bank for their buck.
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    a wizard of my lv deals more damage in fb79 without weapon than me with with my endless ambigy+2)...

    veno alone...b:cry
    veno with nix...b:sad
    veno with nix+fleshream...b:victory
    nix+fleshream with heavy armor veno...b:shocked
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  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I agree with Sadpuma because its true
  • FoxyCleo - Raging Tide
    FoxyCleo - Raging Tide Posts: 290 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Show us on the dolly where the mean Veno touched you.
  • Incindere - Harshlands
    Incindere - Harshlands Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Actually, I don't even think I ever dueled a veno
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yulk - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Veno's herc and nix should be OP, well more OP, because they did spend $200 USD after all. Best to make bank for their buck.

    Did you forget that other people from different classes can be OP too, because some of them spent hundreds of dollars on packs that got em endgame gear b:surrender
    >.<
  • Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver Posts: 660 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Take away the Venomancer's pet, and they become the weakest class in the game. Now, when everyone is level 100 and has full +10-12 TT99 or nirvana, even venos with pets will be underpowered.

    This is because pets, unlike players, cannot be upgraded. A veno with a +12 weapon will never be able to one shot players like a wizard can, we can't sleep opponents like clerics and assassins, and we can't stunlock like BMs. The only thing that makes venos unique, is out ability to use pets. but, when player gear gets to a certain point, as mentioned above, pets become nothing more than a nuisance.

    A Phoenix may be able to kill a 7x or 8x arcane user in a matter of seconds, but when that arcane user is 100 with full +10 gear, the Phoenix is the one who is going to die in seconds.
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Take away the Venomancer's pet, and they become the weakest class in the game. Now, when everyone is level 100 and has full +10-12 TT99 or nirvana, even venos with pets will be underpowered.

    True
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    A veno with a +12 weapon will never be able to one shot players like a wizard can, and we can't stunlock like BMs.

    Since when? Many venos can 1 shot people...certain venos who are good enough can one shot people easily, hell..theres a couple venos that can one shot me.
    Squeakytoy - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    The only thing that makes venos unique, is out ability to use pets. but, when player gear gets to a certain point, as mentioned above, pets become nothing more than a nuisance.

    False, we have flowers floating around us, no other class does.
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  • VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver
    VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    False, we have flowers floating around us, no other class does.

    http://pwi.perfectworld.com/store
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  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    b:angry
    Now venos have nothing left b:cry


    PS can we get new smileys for the forums? their kind of..**** :P
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  • VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver
    VerenKaunis - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,099 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    b:angry
    Now venos have nothing left b:cry


    PS can we get new smileys for the forums? their kind of..**** :P

    Those have actually been there for a long time. I remember someone calling me a noob because he thought I spent money to have little flowers float around me (although 1 gold for 25 minutes of flowers is a ripoff).b:chuckle

    Also, I like the bearbears.b:sad
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  • Raybeez - Lost City
    Raybeez - Lost City Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    at PvE yes.. at PvP ..no...b:victory

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