Veno healing aggro NO SUCH THING

I usually attack straight away too, barely grab agro (lucky me) but when two mobs are trying to eat your pet, and your pet aint eating both and you heal then, you got your agro.
Most people tend to forget to make sure the pet has attacked both mobs before healing.

u send ur pet to attack a mob, pet attacks u heal it pet still has aggro, 2nd mobs starts hitting ur pet that just either moved close or spawned there and u heal ur pet then u get heal aggro of the 2nd mob because ur pet hasnt attacked it. that's what it means for a veno the "i got heal aggro" phrase.

I don't think I've ever managed to out-aggro my pet from pure healing.

But yes, it does exist. If your pet has a couple of mobs on it then yes, you CAN pull the one it's not currently hitting just by healing your pet enough.

(Even with a herc, if the one it's not hitting is using ranged attacks then you can pull it.)

Admittedly, my normal reason to pull aggro is to shoot too early, and get an unlucky crit. But it can happen from pure heals.

It takes several heals to overcome a single pet skill-use though.

Wasn't about taking heal aggro form your pet if it has several mobs on it or if you out dmg your pet, that's common and even if you're careful it still might happen to you, but to get heal aggro from purely only healing your pet and your pet is olny fighting one mob...that's the thing some think that it can't happen and they're obviously wrong about it.

EDIT: LOL @ post above xD

Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Well, it can happen if your pet gets stuck in the landscape and stops hitting, and it can happen if the mob resets aggro for some reason. Otherwise... dunno. I'll go tame a beetle and see if having a sufficiently large difference between my heal and my pets attack can make it happen. It should be possible, but you'd need a LOT of difference.

Can't say I've ever seen a veno complaining about stealing aggro with JUST heals. The heal being the final straw, sure - but it's the unlucky crit what did it.

(Anyone got reduce-crit rings? I loathe crits!)

Yeah yay for glitches, tried leveling my sawfly on ground, it got stuck, pulled aggro healing and had to run around so the pet will unstuck xD

A friend had that happen to her and I know it's true because I know how she tanks the TT bosses and I know for a fact she doesn't attack, she only heals so somehow this can be possible, she being all magic and stuffs...heh, I can't see it happen to me tho since I do have quite a few Vit points and tbh I never tried it but your idea is good, lemme know how it goes with the beetle thing! :P

Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »

Lvl 90 veno says there is no heal aggro. lol

And I got a lvl 82 and a lvl 90 veno that says it is and experienced it.b:chuckle

As ppl said it before, if it doesn't happen to you, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Andromaka - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I cant stop laughting ....
Now tbh did you ever hear of cleric agro coz of heal??? heal pet agro is the same as cleric's heal tank agro ... and it works the same. U can heal pet agro IF and only IF
1. other mob(s) spanw close to your pet which he didnt hit yet.
2. Pet stopped attacking for a pretty long time and u kept healing.

same goes with barb too if he doesnt have bramble or dont alpha male, when he lures many mobs and get healed by cleric, cleric gets heal agro.
on a 1 hit 1 heal matter u cant grab agro as healer just because your healing amount is higher then the attack power of the tanker.

Also many times i have to hold the boss till some of my party members get there and i stopped pet from attacking at the last 10% oh boss HP and never ever got agro like that.

*sighs* Why are you so full of yourself thinking you know best? As in for the cleric healing aggro and pet healing aggro that are similar...*sighs* this was not the case here since most of us know that if you have 2 mobs blah blah you can blah blah steal aggro by healing your pet from one of them and etc etc.
But again, read carefully, it was not about the common situations in which you can steal aggro by healing your pet, but about the uncommon one, where you only heal your pet against one mob and yet manage to steal aggro doing that.
It is not daily basis happening, I only heard of such things a few times in the last year I've been playing, but as rare as it is, somehow it does happen.

Candeh_Love - Sanctuary wrote: »

*sighs* Why are you so full of yourself thinking you know best? As in for the cleric healing aggro and pet healing aggro that are similar...*sighs* this was not the case here since most of us know that if you have 2 mobs blah blah you can blah blah steal aggro by healing your pet from one of them and etc etc.
But again, read carefully, it was not about the common situations in which you can steal aggro by healing your pet, but about the uncommon one, where you only heal your pet against one mob and yet manage to steal aggro doing that.
It is not daily basis happening, I only heard of such things a few times in the last year I've been playing, but as rare as it is, somehow it does happen.

im not full of my self. and i dont say i know best and yes i read that you are saying it is not the case of 2 mobs heal agro but yet i am saying it is impossible. probably 1 of the hits was a miss... since u admit it involved 2 mobs most likely it was a miss you didnt notice ... I doubt u ever experienced a heal pet agro case in a 1 vs 1 with a mob which u only heal and not attack.

http://pwi-wiki.perfectworld.com/index.php/Aggro

MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

^ cool cat
So it seem to be. .
Mob may chase you after heal if the pet not hit the mob with skill ? b:surrender
But sometimes they just chase you even if the pet use skill ?
Are some mob reset agroo on certain times ? like half hp ? (like instance boss)

Yes - if your pet doesn't attack the mob then the mob will come after you for healing the pet.
If your pet attacks but misses then the mob will still hate the pet, but not very much - the first or second heal will probably pull the mob off.
If your pet uses skills then the mob will hate the pet strongly and come after you.

Yes, some special bosses reset aggro periodically. The first one you'll meet is Dimentora in TT1-x. When he shouts out about "007" he resets aggro (just as if someone had used roar on him) and will then go after whoever hits him next, or even go after heal aggro. He's not that hard to manage once you know it's coming.

The other thing that always makes mobs forget who they hate is when they yellow-bubble. The magus trapped in the rocks in FB51, just before fushma, is the one you'll most commonly find that happening with.

I'm not going to rule out other aggro weirdness either - it *seems* (and I aint gonna claim this as pure truth, but it does seem) that aggro decays over time. I've had pyro solidly held on my pet, then had to hold off for a while (because we realised someone wasn't actually near enough to get credit) - and then when we resumed his aggro was MUCH less solidly held; not just on me (who had been throwing heals) but he peeled off and went for the cleric, who had stopped attacking when the herc did, which he wouldn't normally have done if there hadn't been that pause in the action. Might just have been some unlucky crits from the cleric, but it's happened that way a few times in different places.

Another place to look for oddness is crossing from one zone into another - mobs will sometimes pick a new target when they walk across, just as though they'd freshly spawned. That one's rarer though (and your pet buffs randomly being removed is more of an issue)

Dioica - Sanctuary wrote: »

Mmm... you should try soloing an unwined brimstone some time.

If you can get past the chambermaids you can have lots of fun dealing with proles kiting into aggro range of other proles and wandering patrols and...

Let us just say that your description of game mechanics lacks completeness.

who solos brim unwined? it was almost physically impossible to get past those without an extra DD.

I did Stygean Quartermaster once with another veno and someone else (can't remember class).
Me and the other veno already put some serious hurting on Stygean when the 3rd person says he's gonna take a while to get there. I call back my herc because Stygean was already on low health.
I say i'm gonna go afk a bit and ask the other veno to heal my herc. When i get back, the herc was on like 10% HP and the other veno was dead - > took aggro healing.
The other guy still wasnt here so i keep healing my herc and sure enough, after a minute or two of healing Stygean turns on me which almost gets me killed as well.
So yes, there is something called ''veno healing aggro''.

yes, there is such a thing as heal pet aggro. no reflect on the herc does not prevent this. also 1-2 normal hits from pet does not prevent it either. one bash does, for a while, but not indefinitely.

with that said i have never gotten "heal aggro" from healing the pet during non-battle status. its only happened to me when ive healed while multiple mobs are on the pet.

yeah ive gotten this heal aggro, though its only happened when i havent had herc attacking the boss / mob for a while waiting for someone usually

other than that its just when multiple mobs hit ur pet and u dont have bramble yeah XD ull take aggro. after using herc for so long on mobs going to nix was a bit hard cause i forgot it doesnt have bramble T^T