Why, Mr. Barb? WHY?!
Aclucius - Lost City
Posts: 260 Arc User
Okay, so long story short, I was doing BH/FB39 when the funniest thing happened. I'll just let the screenshots talk for themselves. No worries, I blacked out all names related to the event, except mine, so the people who I was in squad with will know who they are if they see this, but no one else will.
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-46-21.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-44-59.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-44-37.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-42-41.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-39-53.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-30-01.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-59.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-58.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-57.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-55.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-52.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-50.jpg
So, basically it came down to me sticking around just so I could stealth out after these people decided to fight Calcid without a cleric, when they were still low enough to have a cleric be necessary. By the way, in the pic with the Barbarians gear, all of them were completely normal. No extra stats, nothing above 1*, just regular NPC bought.
Let this also be a lesson for all. Just because you are a tank, and just because you can solo FB19, you are not invincible, you can still die easily to a boss mob around your level, and cookies are good.
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-46-21.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-44-59.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-44-37.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-42-41.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-39-53.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-30-01.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-59.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-58.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-57.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-55.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-52.jpg
http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx242/ACLucius/2010-02-2119-29-50.jpg
So, basically it came down to me sticking around just so I could stealth out after these people decided to fight Calcid without a cleric, when they were still low enough to have a cleric be necessary. By the way, in the pic with the Barbarians gear, all of them were completely normal. No extra stats, nothing above 1*, just regular NPC bought.
Let this also be a lesson for all. Just because you are a tank, and just because you can solo FB19, you are not invincible, you can still die easily to a boss mob around your level, and cookies are good.
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*pretends to care*[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I was kind of hoping to see the "after" screen shots too.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Where the screen shot of barb died ? b:laugh[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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I agree that the barb was severely undergeared. Probably didn't know better... What's your excuse? Honestly you shouldn't have allowed this to happen, and you knew well in advance where things were headed.
IMO you appear as much more of a noob than the barb did.0 -
I kinda wanted to see pictures of everyone dead...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Poniard - Heavens Tear wrote: »I kinda wanted to see pictures of everyone dead...
Good thing we won't ever squad together...0 -
I tried to get screenshots of the deaths, but I don't think they logged because they weren't in the folder.
@MANray
Actually, I did try to talk them out of it. I had told them it was going to be impossible for him to tank without a cleric. He then suggested a wizard in the squad to heal him, which both the wizard and I both said would not work. He continued to insist he could tank even though I told him he could not, causing the wizard to leave before I even started taking screenshots. In one of the screenshots, you even see me tell him that soloing FB19 means nothing compared to FB39.
My choices to this were simple. Either leave the squad, yelling "Noob" all the way out of the dungeon, or stick around, watch it, and post here for entertainment value. Unless you expected me to somehow drag him and his archer friend out of the dungeon, sit them down, and give them a time-out for thinking they could. I've given you my "excuse," so please, based on what I have told you, explain what you would have done.0 -
Also, I love how whoever that was thinks a 6x and a 4x can kill a 9x. Sorry to break it to you buddy, but no amount of coordination or tactics is going to help when you do two digits of damage to them, and they do four or five to you.0
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I did BH 39 today with my level 56 archer without a cleric and it went very smoothly.
Squad was 3 phy's 1 wiz 1 bm and 1 archer all level 5x.It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.0 -
Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »Also, I love how whoever that was thinks a 6x and a 4x can kill a 9x. Sorry to break it to you buddy, but no amount of coordination or tactics is going to help when you do two digits of damage to them, and they do four or five to you.
Well, to be fair, the 5x in the squad besides me was also an Assassin who was doubting the Barb's ability to tank. It was only the Archer and Barb who were thinking they could do any of this, and also thinking they could take down a 9x.0 -
told the wizard to tank calcid (and later herc) they CAN tank those bosses, I tank them all the time.I'm a guy, not a woman, that is all
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I was expecting to see something funny.0
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Psytrac - Dreamweaver wrote: »told the wizard to tank calcid (and later herc) they CAN tank those bosses, I tank them all the time.
I have tanked all three bosses in there as well. I'm not saying it can't be done. However, I am saying a level 47 Barb with nothing but health pots cannot tank it. If he had charm, I could see it happening. If he had manufactured pots, possibly. If he had a cleric to heal him, definitely. However, a 47 Barb with only regular health pots cannot.
@Azura
Sorry, I will try harder next time! =D0 -
Aclucius - Lost City wrote: »I tried to get screenshots of the deaths, but I don't think they logged because they weren't in the folder.
@MANray
Actually, I did try to talk them out of it. I had told them it was going to be impossible for him to tank without a cleric. He then suggested a wizard in the squad to heal him, which both the wizard and I both said would not work. He continued to insist he could tank even though I told him he could not, causing the wizard to leave before I even started taking screenshots. In one of the screenshots, you even see me tell him that soloing FB19 means nothing compared to FB39.
My choices to this were simple. Either leave the squad, yelling "Noob" all the way out of the dungeon, or stick around, watch it, and post here for entertainment value. Unless you expected me to somehow drag him and his archer friend out of the dungeon, sit them down, and give them a time-out for thinking they could. I've given you my "excuse," so please, based on what I have told you, explain what you would have done.
You're right and i may have been somewhat harsh in my judgement. I apologize. It was the SS of you talking the other sin into staying that made me suspect you may have encouraged this. Yes, if you had already warned them about the outcome then you're blameless in this.0 -
JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver wrote: »I did BH 39 today with my level 56 archer without a cleric and it went very smoothly.
Squad was 3 phy's 1 wiz 1 bm and 1 archer all level 5x.0 -
MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »You're right and i may have been somewhat harsh in my judgement. I apologize. It was the SS of you talking the other sin into staying that made me suspect you may have encouraged this. Yes, if you had already warned them about the outcome then you're blameless in this.
Thank you, I appreciate you saying so. I understand though how that could have made it look like I was sticking around just to see something funny without trying to help them first.
@BloodFire
Very true. I am still wondering on how that squad would have done it, whether it be switching aggro between each other, using the Psychic's to heal, or any combination of those with a charm.0 -
Aclucius - Lost City wrote: »Very true. I am still wondering on how that squad would have done it, whether it be switching aggro between each other, using the Psychic's to heal, or any combination of those with a charm.
Level 6X archer can easily tank calcid on HP foods or with a wiz heal. A 5X could do the same to be honest.... and this comes from my own experience running 39s with no cleric on a 5X archer pre-tideborn. Between using pots well, wings of grace (damage reduction affects DoTs) and a wiz healing, that archer would have to really suck to be unable to tank Calcid charm or no charm.
As for the killing 9X thing, that I find amusing. Maybe they could kill a pure mag with bad gears or who doesn't shard with garnets.... but for anything else they don't have a chance regardless of how god they think they are.0 -
JadeFarmer - Dreamweaver wrote: »I did BH 39 today with my level 56 archer without a cleric and it went very smoothly.
Squad was 3 phy's 1 wiz 1 bm and 1 archer all level 5x.0 -
Is anyone else sensing the sarcasm from the other people in the squad? b:surprised
Or is that just me.0 -
Me did FB39 on lvl 51 together with other barbarian lvl 35 and archer lvl 27 (LOL). Took us 4 hours (more LOL).0
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well here is the thing obviously you werent even willing to try to help the barb out for the simple matter of fact that you are how high i know on my sin i am constantly stealing agro from barbs not to mention BloodPaint is more then enough to help me stay alibe while tanking bosses. you obviously just stood around doing nothing which ended up causing such issues.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »well here is the thing obviously you werent even willing to try to help the barb out for the simple matter of fact that you are how high i know on my sin i am constantly stealing agro from barbs not to mention BloodPaint is more then enough to help me stay alibe while tanking bosses. you obviously just stood around doing nothing which ended up causing such issues.
Well, first off, as I said, I tried to tell him he could not tank this boss using only pots. He however, insisted on it, no matter how much I told him he couldn't.
Second, I use Bloodpaint all the time, it alone is not enough to keep any class alive at that level while tanking a boss unless you happen to be talking about the FB19 bosses. Even if we assume you are doing 1.5k damage on normal attacks, you would still be getting about 30 hp per hit. With a standard of 5 hits every 4 seconds, you are getting 150 hp every 4 seconds, and bosses do more than that to me even when I have other class buffs.
Now I could tank using only Bloodpaint, Life Powder, Second Wind, and some pots and instant heal pots. However, if I were going to do that, I would just solo the BH and get all the drops for myself, at least taking off what I would have to pay in repairs and pot replacements.
No, I did not stand around doing nothing. I did what a DD is supposed to do and avoid taking aggro from the one who is tanking. The archer didn't do that as she died before the tank. Then the Barb died, which put Calcid on me then. Because of the reasons I stated, I went stealth, and saved myself after they both died.
Do not blame me for the mistake of someone else. It was the Barb, not me, who did not take advice and get a cleric. It was the Barb, not me, insisted on tanking without a cleric. Yes, I could have easily stolen aggro, just as the archer could easily have stolen aggro from me.
It's a vicious circle, and it comes down to the fact that there was no cleric because the Barb refused to just wait and go get one. I was 58 at that time, the archer was 66. Tell me, who is more likely to deal more damage? The archer was skill spamming, and I know for a fact I can do about 58% more damage with a bow's normal attacks as I can with daggers. So, do the math, you'll see aggro would have been taken off of me anyways, because neither of them knew what they should have done. The archer should have controlled her aggro, the barb should have gotten a cleric or charm at least.0 -
Escorian - Dreamweaver wrote: »well here is the thing obviously you werent even willing to try to help the barb out for the simple matter of fact that you are how high i know on my sin i am constantly stealing agro from barbs not to mention BloodPaint is more then enough to help me stay alibe while tanking bosses. you obviously just stood around doing nothing which ended up causing such issues.
Bloodpaint is dependent on how much damage you deal. It's not really that great of a skill until you get fists/claws and stack interval and high refines. If you have highly refined fists/claws and a bit of -interval... bloodpaint is so broken.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0
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