TW Schedule 19-21 Feb

From the look of it seem enrage going for Rad but is protecting them, perhap under the agreement else is hard to justify 200 mil blockage fees in the words to fight Tao.

Is one stone two bird move but not sure if Rad members agree to be protected by Enrage. Being one of the oldest guild in HT, they sure need to suk up their prides and forever have their head held low.

I foresee some of Rad members leaving may join enrage, Tao other may merge with other guild, perhap one could rival the strenght of Tao and Enrage which shall be happen in the near future and is my hope to see. Every week the same **** kind of boring.

On other note, if Rad and Caesar can over come their differences and merge into one, HT TW will become more interesting.

There is no forever enemy nor friend.

Since when does enrage make alliances?
Not to mention the alliance tao had with Radiance until Lypi broke it.

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Since when does enrage make alliances?

You ARE protecting them though... unless enrage attacks rad next week too, which I highly doubt will happen.

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Not to mention the alliance tao had with Radiance until Lypi broke it.

We took our first like 3 lands from rad b:surrender. But, yeah, after that we didn't attack for awhile. I heard from Lypi that he heard Rad was gonna attack 1k, so we attacked them... then they attacked 1k... whether they were planning on it beforehand, who knows. Basically the same as when we attacked Caesar, based on a rumour.

Anyway, less qq moar pewpew. We shall see what happens tomorrow vs Enrage, rawr. b:victory

Damn u mystic u promised me i would be in that super serect meeting about what Enrage would do god damn cant trust u as far as i can throw u.

Eh Rad has been backed into a corner many times predicted to fail yet always end up alive on the other end cross ur fingers run into the fight and pray things work out.

Daji - Heavens Tear wrote: »

From the look of it seem enrage going for Rad but is protecting them, perhap under the agreement else is hard to justify 200 mil blockage fees in the words to fight Tao.

Is one stone two bird move but not sure if Rad members agree to be protected by Enrage. Being one of the oldest guild in HT, they sure need to suk up their prides and forever have their head held low.

I foresee some of Rad members leaving may join enrage, Tao other may merge with other guild, perhap one could rival the strenght of Tao and Enrage which shall be happen in the near future and is my hope to see. Every week the same **** kind of boring.

On other note, if Rad and Caesar can over come their differences and merge into one, HT TW will become more interesting.

There is no forever enemy nor friend.

20 mil, not 200 mil

Hari - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You ARE protecting them though... unless enrage attacks rad next week too, which I highly doubt will happen.

Fact, When a guild becomes too powerful, noone attacks them, they go for the lesser guilds on the map. (Reference; Every week's TW)

Fact, When TW becomes stale for the most powerful guild, internal drama pops up & they crumble (Heaven's Tear at least). (Reference; Radiance, Enrage pre-Tao glory, Tao)

This is the history lessons learned from TWing on Heaven's Tear server. Now we look at the current situation;

Fact, Enrage was attacking Tao, and they were no-showing to defend other territories (note: I am not trolling them on this, as other guilds including Enrage in the past has done this. just stating current situation.)

Fact, No other guild was attacking Enrage. Tao would occasionally (1 actual fight every 3 weeks maybe). For the most part, Enrage was getting very little competitive TWs.

Knowing how history has played out, not once but several times on our server, the members of Enrage knew something had to be done. Already TW was growing stale, and it needed some spicing up. The way to do this was basically to force Tao & Radiance's hand to have to attack Enrage (or not bid).

Enrage had 2 Territory options to block Rad from Enrage.

(1) Attack Tao's Avalanche Canyon, and hope that Tao doesnt win their bid & fight for Radiance's Thousand Wood Ridge.
(2) Attack Radiance's Thousand Wood Ridge, and hope that Radiance doesnt win their bid & fight for Tao's Avalanche Canyon.

Which do you think was more likely to occur? I think anyone who bets wouldnt dare bet on (1) and everyone would pick (2) as most likely.
Even IF Radiance somehow wins their fight into Tao's side (by forfeit or no show), what would happen? Tao would take it back next week.

So while it might appear Enrage is protecting Rad from Tao, why is it noone suggests we are protecting Tao from Rad? Its because people know the pecking order. And from that they make assumptions. The move was purely one of directing all mapped guilds to have to attack Enrage. The End.

Oh and btw I commend Enrage for having the balls to "force" Tao/Radiance to both have to declare upon them next week. I've heard many rumors about having 150-160+ signing up for tw; having lots of ppl on standby etc. Well next week let's see if Enrage can pull off what they asked for. I know in the PAST Enrage when they had multiple top tier guilds attacking them in the same tw slot they sent reduced forces to 1 (most times lost but pulled off a win or 2 doing this and or no showed someone. Next week will it be Rad and Tao in the same time slot? Rad most likely's gonna only have 3 lands to defend so where's everyone else gonna go? Is there gonna be some "bogus" bids to "protect" Enrage f/ defending say Tao, Radiance, Belial/Caesar/Etc. at the same time? Let's be honest here ppl. Those that have followed tw bids week in/week out knows that way too many damn times when Enrage was "potentialy" going to face numerous top tier guilds in the same time slot (which many ppl know how to manipulate) the bogus bids came out (a few of which led to bans of ppl in Enrage). Things ONLY get interesting for hear on out IF the bogus bids don't occur. I'm hearing f/ alot of ppl in Enrage that they could EASILY defend Tao/Rad at the same time and unfortunately there's only 1 way to prove it. Enrage if you guys pull off a 2/3 way defense of Rad/Tao and some other halfway decent guild my hat will be off to you as the FIRST to successfully pull this off on HT. But imo I'd be shocked if the tw schedule is not manipulated to prevent this f/ happening next week (it's happened so much in the past) so we shall see....Idk about you all but I'm eagerly anticipating what happens next due to the curveball Enrage threw upon the server. The possibilites are endless whereas before this it was blah BORINGGGGGGGG until Tao/Rad/some one else can prove that they can defeat Enrage.

Rawthorne - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Lol now this is hilarious when you look at the facts. There was 3 ppl in Tao that were in Rad shortly beforehand (me, the wifey, and iigoru) when Rad declared on 1k. Did any of us ever push to declare 1k/Tao while in Rad? Umm NOPE. Did I sometimes say things like "you know if we was ever gonna go for Tao this would be our best shot; but it'd be a waste of time cuz it'd cause us to get wiped asap in the long run?" If that's me "pushing to attack Tao"...mmk whatever; try more along the lines of discussing options w/ ppl as to wth to do (cmon when DIDN'T you ever hear me talking tw shop throwing scenearios/strats/etc. out 24/7while in Rad). Nah trust me there were a LOT of ppl in Rad that always kept trying to convince me to go for Tao/1k each and every week. Towards the end of my stay there the # of ppl spouting this nonsense grew and it had gotten back to Tao leadership long before me/LoR had told them anything. Declaring on Rad to protect 1k was done as a purely defensive stance for the long term and Tao probably should have done it ages ago.

I remember saying something along the lines of "let's bid on Broken Plain and hope that Radiance has the balls to declare on Etherblade." Yea, I'm aware that that may seem a bit rude, but it's the truth. It's one of the many scenarios that were discussed numerous times while Raw and I were still in Radiance. My stance hasn't changed, I'd rather go to an Enrage fight than Radiance anyhow.

Rawthorne - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Oh and btw I commend Enrage for having the balls to "force" Tao/Radiance to both have to declare upon them next week. I've heard many rumors about having 150-160+ signing up for tw; having lots of ppl on standby etc. Well next week let's see if Enrage can pull off what they asked for. I know in the PAST Enrage when they had multiple top tier guilds attacking them in the same tw slot they sent reduced forces to 1 (most times lost but pulled off a win or 2 doing this and or no showed someone. Next week will it be Rad and Tao in the same time slot? Rad most likely's gonna only have 3 lands to defend so where's everyone else gonna go? Is there gonna be some "bogus" bids to "protect" Enrage f/ defending say Tao, Radiance, Belial/Caesar/Etc. at the same time? Let's be honest here ppl. Those that have followed tw bids week in/week out knows that way too many damn times when Enrage was "potentialy" going to face numerous top tier guilds in the same time slot (which many ppl know how to manipulate) the bogus bids came out (a few of which led to bans of ppl in Enrage). Things ONLY get interesting for hear on out IF the bogus bids don't occur. I'm hearing f/ alot of ppl in Enrage that they could EASILY defend Tao/Rad at the same time and unfortunately there's only 1 way to prove it. Enrage if you guys pull off a 2/3 way defense of Rad/Tao and some other halfway decent guild my hat will be off to you as the FIRST to successfully pull this off on HT. But imo I'd be shocked if the tw schedule is not manipulated to prevent this f/ happening next week (it's happened so much in the past) so we shall see....Idk about you all but I'm eagerly anticipating what happens next due to the curveball Enrage threw upon the server. The possibilites are endless whereas before this it was blah BORINGGGGGGGG until Tao/Rad/some one else can prove that they can defeat Enrage.

Yes, if they can successfully defend and not lose anything, they will deserve some kudos. But the question is this, if they lose either, if not both, can they do it with honor and not QQ in WC about it? If they can do that, then that there is a victory as well, because it will show good sportsmanship. IDK, maybe I am only dreaming, but we'll see.

Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Sorry, but Enrage has never purposely fake bid. If some random guild bids on us with a 10k refund, there is no way to tell who did it unless your a GM who can check IPs, but Enrage does not fake bid, never have and never will.

One example of this was my sources told me that someone in Enrage ADMITTED on vent to doing a fake bid and was promptly cussed out on vent for doing this. I'm not saying Enrage "endorses" this but it HAS happened in the past. Don't ask me who cuz it was a while back. Plus it is impossible f/ preventing someone to creating an alt to do a fake bid unfortunately (should be a req't that a MININUM of a level 2 guild to bid imo to prevent this f/ happening).

Hmmm.... I dont remember dropping names or accusing one person of anything in my previous post. The honest truth is for a server that down talks Rad so much you guys sure do like to talk about them. I think the major TW factions should worry about themselves and not what everyone else is doing. "If" Rad ever leave the map omg what are all you guys gonna QQ about then?

b:worried so many walls of text my eyes r bleeding

Rawthorne - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Oh and btw I commend Enrage for having the balls to "force" Tao/Radiance to both have to declare upon them next week. I've heard many rumors about having 150-160+ signing up for tw; having lots of ppl on standby etc. Well next week let's see if Enrage can pull off what they asked for. I know in the PAST Enrage when they had multiple top tier guilds attacking them in the same tw slot they sent reduced forces to 1 (most times lost but pulled off a win or 2 doing this and or no showed someone. Next week will it be Rad and Tao in the same time slot? Rad most likely's gonna only have 3 lands to defend so where's everyone else gonna go? Is there gonna be some "bogus" bids to "protect" Enrage f/ defending say Tao, Radiance, Belial/Caesar/Etc. at the same time? Let's be honest here ppl. Those that have followed tw bids week in/week out knows that way too many damn times when Enrage was "potentialy" going to face numerous top tier guilds in the same time slot (which many ppl know how to manipulate) the bogus bids came out (a few of which led to bans of ppl in Enrage). Things ONLY get interesting for hear on out IF the bogus bids don't occur. I'm hearing f/ alot of ppl in Enrage that they could EASILY defend Tao/Rad at the same time and unfortunately there's only 1 way to prove it. Enrage if you guys pull off a 2/3 way defense of Rad/Tao and some other halfway decent guild my hat will be off to you as the FIRST to successfully pull this off on HT. But imo I'd be shocked if the tw schedule is not manipulated to prevent this f/ happening next week (it's happened so much in the past) so we shall see....Idk about you all but I'm eagerly anticipating what happens next due to the curveball Enrage threw upon the server. The possibilites are endless whereas before this it was blah BORINGGGGGGGG until Tao/Rad/some one else can prove that they can defeat Enrage.

What about all the bogus bids Tao gets? If people think Rad and Tao will bid on Enrage, they will ALL want that 3rd slot.

I have seen more unpunished fake bidding on part of Tao than any other faction.

And there is a big difference between fake bids and joke bids, fake bids are bids on one's OWN land meant to disrupt scheduling. The only "fake bids" on part of current/former enrage members were bid on Tao lands with goofy names as a joke that had absolutely no bearing on the level of difficulty of the schedule.

PS..
I love how fake bidding gets brought up when talking about Enrage, because it makes perfect sense to force factions to attack us and then fake bid to make the schedule easier.
/sarcasm

Saturday & Sunday were certainly fun, great job everyone involved! b:victory

Rawthorne - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Oh and btw I commend Enrage for having the balls to "force" Tao/Radiance to both have to declare upon them next week. I've heard many rumors about having 150-160+ signing up for tw; having lots of ppl on standby etc. Well next week let's see if Enrage can pull off what they asked for. I know in the PAST Enrage when they had multiple top tier guilds attacking them in the same tw slot they sent reduced forces to 1 (most times lost but pulled off a win or 2 doing this and or no showed someone. Next week will it be Rad and Tao in the same time slot? Rad most likely's gonna only have 3 lands to defend so where's everyone else gonna go? Is there gonna be some "bogus" bids to "protect" Enrage f/ defending say Tao, Radiance, Belial/Caesar/Etc. at the same time? Let's be honest here ppl. Those that have followed tw bids week in/week out knows that way too many damn times when Enrage was "potentialy" going to face numerous top tier guilds in the same time slot (which many ppl know how to manipulate) the bogus bids came out (a few of which led to bans of ppl in Enrage). Things ONLY get interesting for hear on out IF the bogus bids don't occur. I'm hearing f/ alot of ppl in Enrage that they could EASILY defend Tao/Rad at the same time and unfortunately there's only 1 way to prove it. Enrage if you guys pull off a 2/3 way defense of Rad/Tao and some other halfway decent guild my hat will be off to you as the FIRST to successfully pull this off on HT. But imo I'd be shocked if the tw schedule is not manipulated to prevent this f/ happening next week (it's happened so much in the past) so we shall see....Idk about you all but I'm eagerly anticipating what happens next due to the curveball Enrage threw upon the server. The possibilites are endless whereas before this it was blah BORINGGGGGGGG until Tao/Rad/some one else can prove that they can defeat Enrage.

fail ex-leader of Rad and being in same guild wit QB who scammed Rads bank way to go shalalalalala flame pls

Lots of walls of text from people who have no idea what they are talking about and suck at tw. I'll leave you to guess who I am directing this at. I'll say this very calmly.

WHO THE **** CARES.

Who cares if enrage blocked Rad? Shouldn't everyone be giddy as hell they can gank enrage now? B/c they can't beat them in a 1v1? Or is the thought of not winning every time heartbreaking? Saying enrage wanted to protect rad is ****. What do you see in wc every weekend? Enrage memebers wanting to fight Tao. Enrage gave tao the option to fight yet were met with no shows do to Rad attacking at the same time. So, what option does it leave? Block them. Now Tao has two options, fight or do not bid.

Enrage can field enough people to hold both. That I am confident of. The third guild jumping in is where it gets a bit iffy. It will depend on who gets the third time slot if Rad, Tao, and (insert guild here) sync.

The bottom point is this. I still play this game for TW, now Enrage is going to get TW each and every week. So now I can't retire. Just because Enrage will be getting ganked doesnt mean anyone will gain land from them. There is a chance but it is not a guarantee. My advice to everyone is to not get overconfident. Over confidence is key to anyone's down fall. This weekend will provide a test to everyone. The biggest test being for Tao and for Enrage. Just because a tw goes for 30 mins one week doesn't mean it will be the same next week. Many factors play in. Such as who is leading, what people show up, and squad layouts, I think we're all in for a surprise next week.