Your opinions about pvp servers
Solinah - Dreamweaver
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So, there are Pve and Pvp servers right?
And when you are on a PVp server, EVERYONE can attack you??
And kill you? O__O
But isnt this awful?
You could get killed any minute! >,<
And you cant go...to the toilet, or make yourself a peanutbutter-jelly-sandwich, because you could get killed if you go afk!
And you have stress all the time dont you?
But there are a lot of people who like the pvp servers!
I would love to hear your opinions about the pvp servers, their good things and their bad things! ^^
And when you are on a PVp server, EVERYONE can attack you??
And kill you? O__O
But isnt this awful?
You could get killed any minute! >,<
And you cant go...to the toilet, or make yourself a peanutbutter-jelly-sandwich, because you could get killed if you go afk!
And you have stress all the time dont you?
But there are a lot of people who like the pvp servers!
I would love to hear your opinions about the pvp servers, their good things and their bad things! ^^
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It's just different playstyles. PvP servers are by definition much more competitive and challenging. I personally find they also make for better comunities as people learn to practice self restraint which makes for sane gameplay. Unfortunately PvP is far more exposed to game balance issues and can be more taxing for casuals or people who shy away from interaction.
It's a myth that PvP comunities are any less friendly or welcoming than those on PvE servers.0 -
Can low levels hope for mercy sometimes? XD
Because that would be totally unfair if a lvl 80 f.e. would attack a lvl 9...0 -
-Most- of the time, the higher levels will leave you alone. Yes, occasionally someone will come by and one shot you, but it's generally only once or twice then you go back to leveling as usual. The PVP servers are not all everyone killing everyone anarchy and chaos like people make them out to be. A lot are actually really civil, like the whole oracle events. When -EVERYONE- had oracles, the PVP servers had an easier time dealing with the oracle influx. Why? Because if anyone broke line, then the line completely DESTROYED them. No KS'ing
Also the competitive gameplay makes you learn your class better. No offense to PVE'ers, but chances are a person on a PVP server knows their class better than someone on a PVE server (one that straight up only plays PVE and NEVER pvp's) mostly because they're introduced to skills that mobs don't use. Properly timed seals, sleeps, advanced kiting techniques. Things of that nature make PVP more exciting than PVE because you -never- know what the opponent will do. Sure you may kill that uber level 90 character at level 82, but you run into lvl 77 that just completely destroys you. Things like that make it fun.0 -
Kinohki - Lost City wrote: »No offense to PVE'ers, but chances are a person on a PVP server knows their class better than someone on a PVE server (one that straight up only plays PVE and NEVER pvp's) mostly because they're introduced to skills that mobs don't use. Properly timed seals, sleeps, advanced kiting techniques.
Not exactly. Ever since I've started playing on HL, I've see a lot more fail than I have on DW for the past almost a year. I've seen a 7X Barb with less than 5k HP buffed and in full white NPC gears. And no, that's not his PvP gears, he's "saving money to become the best barb on the server". I've had a level 60 BM asked for the lead at the boss in human fb19 then ends up tabbing it... During the few hundreds of FB 19s I ran on DW, the highest tabber was in the 30s maybe?
Yeah there are people who didn't know what they were doing on DW too, but I've seen more jaw-dropping things on HL regarding failure wise in the past a couple of month than I have on DW since it opened.
It's not like PvP doesn't exist at all on PvE server, there are TWs and also PKing. It's just that PKing has gotten less common than back when the server just opened.0 -
I like pvp server's becaz there more challenging then a pve serverpwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=d5665672759051ef
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PK'ing is lvl 30 and up only.
Learn to use your T key and keep an eye on red named players.
Also, if you can master the art of making a peanut butter and jelly sandwich while on the toilet your survival rate will skyrocket. b:pleased[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Solinah - Dreamweaver wrote: »So, there are Pve and Pvp servers right?
And when you are on a PVp server, EVERYONE can attack you??
And kill you? O__O
But isnt this awful?
You could get killed any minute! >,<
And you cant go...to the toilet, or make yourself a peanutbutter-jelly-sandwich, because you could get killed if you go afk!
And you have stress all the time dont you?
But there are a lot of people who like the pvp servers!
I would love to hear your opinions about the pvp servers, their good things and their bad things! ^^
PvP in pvp servers is not like what u think, cuz ppl rarely atk u there unless you are in a faction that has a kos or a red named rpker sees u. Cuz lately alot of ppl are scared to get red names since prices for gold are like 3x times what they used to be and that means you cant use guardian scroll to protect you from the penalties of having a red name which is dropping your stuff when u die or getting killed by guards if you get too close to them.Okeano - Harshlands wrote: »Not exactly. Ever since I've started playing on HL, I've see a lot more fail than I have on DW for the past almost a year. I've seen a 7X Barb with less than 5k HP buffed and in full white NPC gears. And no, that's not his PvP gears, he's "saving money to become the best barb on the server". I've had a level 60 BM asked for the lead at the boss in human fb19 then ends up tabbing it... During the few hundreds of FB 19s I ran on DW, the highest tabber was in the 30s maybe?
Yeah there are people who didn't know what they were doing on DW too, but I've seen more jaw-dropping things on HL regarding failure wise in the past a couple of month than I have on DW since it opened.
It's not like PvP doesn't exist at all on PvE server, there are TWs and also PKing. It's just that PKing has gotten less common than back when the server just opened.
Its true that you will find players that fail hard in HL nowadays but in the beginning of the server HL actually had a huge amount of pro players that quited for a famous p2p game that came on September last year and others jus quit cuz they were tired of the game and especially cuz of the gold prices; You will still find alot of excellent players around but not as much as it used to b. What happens now is that you are seeing alot of oraclers that went past lvl60 without knowing what their classes do and Im sure HL has far more excellent players then DW, u jus have had bad luck and found the oracle noobs which are more abundant now since HL is getting an influx of new players to the game.0 -
Dustins_ALT - Harshlands wrote: »I like pvp server's becaz there more challenging then a pve serverOriinally Posted by MANray
Unfortunately PvP is far more exposed to game balance issues and can be more taxing for casuals or people who shy away from interaction.
There is really no difference in either server except the ganking or pking which to me proves nothing that you are better skilled player.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0 -
MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »I very much doubt that and I don't really see the difference in any except ganking from high lvls.You fight mobs on pvp servers that isn't pvp so this glorified pve server
You wouldn't understand if you have always been on a pve server there is a big difference in the 2.pwcalc.ru/pwi/?char=d5665672759051ef
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MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »
Where is the balance in the pvp servers as they are same as pve?
There is really no difference in either server except the ganking or pking which to me proves nothing that you are better skilled player.
Since you're exposed to a more competitive environment (having to deal with not just AI, but other players) balance issues that would be small nuances in PvE can become important factors. It is the whole server that faces such issues, not just a small minority. And there is usually much more ganking and griefing on PvE servers if you go white named than you'll ever find on a PvP server.
One of the main reasons i moved to Sanctuary was the introduction of heavy advantages for cash shopers. Where on a PvE server they may only amount to annoyance, on PvP they have a large impact upon your gaming experience.0 -
On Lost City, some high levels won't leave you alone. It really works by locations tho, if you're a poor level 30 and have to do your quest at Silver Pool, you will suffer as there are a LOT of pkers around here and they really get a kick ouf ot random pking the poor lowbies.
This gets even worse when you have to do the Culti Quest that requires you to kill 40 Pterosaurs, because the same pkers just love to come and kill you while you're doing it xD. Hidden Orchid is also a pretty dangerous place, especially when you have to do the boss here (Yan). There is also the mobs area around Tusk Town, and maybe City of Misfortune.
But well, it gives motivation. Just do what I do, level up your character, take the pk from much higher levels, duely remember their names and try to see where they hang out so you can track them down and tear them up 40 levels later.
I tend to think PvP also reinforces the link in a faction. Because anyone of your guildy can be in danger at any time, you have to protect them. I mean, I'm not a RPKer, I sometimes kill red names and I often kill the pkers that are giving one of my guildy a hard time.Risingson - 7x Psychic
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From what I've seen - it's all higher levels killing lower levels, and most of the time they camp at spots you need to do quests.
They are pretty smart though, a sort of pk farming thing where you have two or three higher level people alternately killing lower levels so they won't get ticketed.
Really challenging to pk someone 10 or more levels below you.0 -
I enjoy PvP servers because you have more freedom. To me, it's like the difference between being a child and an adult. As a child, you're protected and sheltered, and the mistakes you make can (for the most part) be reversed fairly easily. In a PvP server, you're an adult. You have the choice to PK another person if they're annoying you, or leave them alone. Wanna kill some lowbies? That's your prerogative, go ahead. Want to kill the people killing lowbies? Knock yourself out. Your mistakes aren't sheltered or usually easily fixable. I just prefer the freedom and responsibility that comes with a PvP server over a PvE server.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Amorzka - Harshlands wrote: »From what I've seen - it's all higher levels killing lower levels, and most of the time they camp at spots you need to do quests.
They are pretty smart though, a sort of pk farming thing where you have two or three higher level people alternately killing lower levels so they won't get ticketed.
Really challenging to pk someone 10 or more levels below you.
There are less jerks than you might think. On Lost City at least. Back when I was doing a lot of Public Quest, a bunch of 9x from FinalOath used to come very often to kill everyone that was killing the mobs, just for fun. They could never do it for too long tho, because most of the time people from Essence and Kamisama came down and protected the people doing the PQ xDRisingson - 7x Psychic
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MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »It's just different playstyles. PvP servers are by definition much more competitive and challenging. I personally find they also make for better comunities as people learn to practice self restraint which makes for sane gameplay. Unfortunately PvP is far more exposed to game balance issues and can be more taxing for casuals or people who shy away from interaction.
It's a myth that PvP comunities are any less friendly or welcoming than those on PvE servers.
you should see the pvp players and how they post when pve people give advice on how to pvp. theyre rude, arrogant, and downright wrong sometimes too.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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pvp keeps things interesting, but its really not like your gonna be killed every time you step out of a safezone. True there are some people who do just go around and one shot 3x because they can, but for me even as a lowbie wiz...
(an east target for anyone)
I never had it that bad.
But also your not gonna stand right next to an ominous red named player, and not expect a chance of being pk'd.
As for people saying pve players dont know how to play thier class as well, i cant really comment as ive never played long enough on a pve server.
I think they know how to play just as well as any pvp player, But it might be a different style of play. I consider myself to know how to play my class very well, but during pvp situations i use different tacticts than i do in pve when against mobs/bosses.
Also just cos someone can kill you, just cos they are higher lvl does by no means mean they are better players than you, or that know how to play thier class better.0 -
WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »the last line of this post makes me lol.
you should see the pvp players and how they post when pve people give advice on how to pvp. theyre rude, arrogant, and downright wrong sometimes too.
Maybe so. It's not exactly like posters from PvE servers provide open minded kind hearted encouragement on the forums tho.0 -
Its really not that much pking on Lost City.
You can be afk out of SZ for days and come back and still be alive lol.
Dont think my latest alt, my tideborn ever got rpked more than once, and it its 80+ now. Even doing quests in swamp, Hidden Orchid, PQ, oracle spots etc etc you never get attacked. Which is boring if you wanna bring your main and revenge ppl killing your alt ;( But no one gives a **** about some non-factor lowbie random questing it seems b:chuckle.
Use to be a lot of rpk before tho, dunno what happened o.o
Maybe doll prices went up or everyone is busy doing BHs. Or the bigger factions acts server police and comes and crashes all the rpk parties.0 -
I once considered a PVP server but then i realized that it was not worth it . I have no malice against anyone on a PVP server but PVP in the game is gimped. Its not really about player skill as much as it is about refines/cash/consumables. In every other mmo if you see someone your level your gear may differ but its probably a fair fight. However this is no the case in PWI. Their gear may be vastly superior to yours with refines.And then lets not forget to mention consumables. There a pots that give instant sparks and reduce damage. Now there are people that would say ' well anyone can get apothecary items' however this is not true. Not everyone has the cash to be well stocked all the time for constant pvp.And lets not forget that their are apothecary pots available to TW factions that you can not get unless you are in one. Putting all that aside the largest offender to me is Guardian Scrolls. Guardian Scrolls are the reason i joined a PVE server. With Guardian Scrolls there is no risk. what is the point of joining a PVP server with no risk ?? Im sorry but people can pretend they know pvp but u take a look inside their bag and they got pots and guardian scrolls stacked. Why act badass when their is no risk of losing items??Now some people will say ' well u can just go buy them ' which is correct but not everyone has the cash to be stocked.... oh wait... those are the ppl that are worth killing in pvp ... nevermind.
Q: What is the difference between a PVE server and a PVP ?
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MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »I very much doubt that and I don't really see the difference in any except ganking from high lvls.You fight mobs on pvp servers that isn't pvp so this glorified pve server
Where is the balance in the pvp servers as they are same as pve?
There is really no difference in either server except the ganking or pking which to me proves nothing that you are better skilled player.
From what I understand, you're more likely to get repetitively ganked on a PvE server if you go white name than if you are on a PvP server. From what I've heard going white-name on a PvE server is a lot like going white at lvl 30 on a PvP server. Everyone attacks you cause you're fair game.
On a PvP server, you can play all day without being attacked... or you could be attacked a number of times... everyone gets white-named at lvl30, and by the time you're 40-50ish, it isn't so intense, and by the time you're 70ish, being attacked daily becomes somewhat uncommon.
Personally, I'd rather be killed by another player than mobs, because you don't lose XP. Also, if someone decides to start camping and harassing you, on a PvP server, you can't directly take care of the problem. QQ to a GM? Ona PvE server, you can't do anything about someone camping you, kill-stealing you, or generally being a nuisance. On a PvP server you have the opportunity to kill them or have your faction protect you.
Also, when you start approaching end-game, there's very little else to do except group PvP and TW. Dueling may be dandy, but it's not PvP and winning a duel isn't the same thing as burning through someone's hiero to actually kill them.
At some point, doing HH, farming lunar, farming nirvana... just becomes pointless and then there is nothing really left... except to go hunting kos or looking for group pvp.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »Ona PvE server, you can't do anything about someone camping you, kill-stealing you, or generally being a nuisance.
You can go off from PK mode. Ever considered that?100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
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Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »You can go off from PK mode. Ever considered that?
yes, he meant as a blue name.0 -
From what I've seen on the forums, I will definitely agree with the camp that says PvP servers are more mature. Yes, you might get RPKed, but if someone is rude, they have to be aware there will be consequences. You can mess them up too, and stop them from doing things like kill stealing, killing rare pets for petty reasons, etc. And indeed, much of the RPK has been dying lately on Lost City. Perhaps has something to do with RQ dying and a lot of its players joining Essence and Kami? FailOath could never take their place, and Koi is just a joke. Shooting fish in a barrel. b:surrender
Actually, I've taken up RPK myself lately, though I suppose it isn't entirely random since I try to avoid killing people under 70 unless they irritate me in some way. I'm PKing to have fun fights and make people who like to think they're better because they only kill red names an option to fight. Besides, who can say that bloodred isn't a pretty name color? =D[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Gosh.. Guys, this is crazy.
PvP, in my opinion is simply more realistic. Image yourself actually in that world with all that conflict going on. Even in THIS world, people are killing eachother left and right. We don't have some magic protection keeping us from being killed. Yeah, if we're pked, we can come back to life, while we can't here, but at least it more realistic in that not only is the wildlife going to have something against you. @_@
And about the Guardian Scroll stuff. Just wow. They last for one kill. Even if its an rpk. I wouldn't waste my money on those for anything. And there's got to be only a few that would now with the gold prices where they are. Its just ridiculous. People just use Safetly lock anymore when they're on PK sprees, so Guardian Scrolls aren't even necessary.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »You can go off from PK mode. Ever considered that?
Errr... what?
If you're a lvl66 blue name... you could have a lvl 70 blue name follow you around, harass you, kill-steal you, or whatever... even if you decide to go white hame, they can still stay blue... what can you do about it other than QQ to a GM?
I guess you're safe from being pk'd... but in all honesty, I'd rather have someone just kill or try to kill me than follow me around, ks me, call me names or whatever and have them hide behind their protected blue name status.
BTW, activities like those aren't really common on a PvP server, though you do hear a bit of QQing from safe zone from time to time, ksers and ****-talkers are generally taken care of with a few skills.I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
Dustins_ALT - Harshlands wrote: »You wouldn't understand if you have always been on a pve server there is a big difference in the 2.Looking for a decent casual understanding Faction.0
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Well i prefer a PvP server than a PvE server even though i haven't accually properly played a PvE server. But i did make 1 character on a PvE server and i didn't like it, everyone there were blue and got confusing to tell between someone that was lvl 10+ to another which was lvl 30+ b:surrender0
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Kalee - Lost City wrote: »Well i prefer a PvP server than a PvE server even though i haven't accually properly played a PvE server. But i did make 1 character on a PvE server and i didn't like it, everyone there were blue and got confusing to tell between someone that was lvl 10+ to another which was lvl 30+ b:surrender
Yeah, that's a bit weird. Seeing blue name lvl10x would just be... strange.
And you can do all the same PvE on a PvP server, you just have the option to kill other players and be left vulnerable to be killed yourself. I don't know how many times I was doing a boring kill quest or farming mats, only to be surprise attacked... sometimes winning sometimes losing, but definitely giving the game a bit more surprise. Even those moments I died, was a lot more fun than sitting there farming the same circle hour after hour...I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.0 -
At some point, doing HH, farming lunar, farming nirvana... just becomes pointless and then there is nothing really left... except to go hunting kos or looking for group pvp.
this is so true
i think the lost city server is great, pve's are probly great to, but end game would b so boring as a high level with out the freedom to kill kos
earlier sum1 posted that on the fourms pvp players are all big headed and arrogant towards pve servers giving advice on pk, it dosnt really help that most of u seem 2 think that were all meat heads that only ever kill sum1 30 lvls than them themselves
and to the OP, id recommend rolling on a pvp server simply because pvp is a large part of what this game is about and id think you would be missing out on this aspect of the game0
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