sharptooth

poures wrote: »

I used the searched faction but couldnt find anything relevant so i am going to ask.
I have heard from some archers that when u use sharptooth on a mob u get less xp at the end, that doesnt actually make sense, so we tested it on a mob in frost during 2x xp, same mob one time with sharptooth one time without and we still got the same xp from it, then i talk to a friend about it and he tested it on some different mobs and he got less xp when sharptooth.
So whats the deal here? cause its getting me pretty confused b:surrender

Uh, this is a possibly dumb question, but was he using Sharptooth against 'Weak' mobs?

maybe you can try the SEARCH FUNCTION ?




btw mobs may give more or less EXP depending on their STATUS (inc. life, sacrifical assault, weak ecc... )




IMO sharpthoot (skills in general) doesnt affect EXP gains from mobs




the only thing that affect EXP on fixed mob are ITEMS (+1%exp, eso scroll or new hyper stone) and event (2x EXP, may not stack with other xp-item)





in general 2 characters of the same level with same gear, fighting the same mob, will get the same EXP.

It doesn't effect EXP (Just tried it myself, curiousity~) Exp would be, as we've said;

Either cause by the mobs level or status.

Sharptooth does reduce exp from kills if the hp debuff is decreasing current life as well (i.e. using sharptooth on a mob at full life). The sharptooth "damage" from the debuff is not counted as the archer's damage so that exp is gone.

ST decreases EXP if the ST was still on the mob when he died.

On FC runs you might wanna refrain from using ST if the squad can kill the bosses faster then the ST wears off. On lower level squads you can use it to speed up the boss kills.

The EXP system is not rated on mobs having sacrificial assault but on stats. So HP/Def/Atk etc. So if you kill the mob with less MAX HP then the same mob with full MAX HP you will get the EXP calculated on the less HP, which result in less EXP.

I shoot the archer who uses ST on FC runs with me in squad :P we kill bosses faster then the ST lasts

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

As far as I am aware, Sharptooth does not decrease the EXP you get from a mob. How ridiculous would it be if mobs give you less EXP should you debuff them?

Think about it logically for a second. If you get less EXP for using Sharptooth, you would most certainly refrain from using it on bosses in instances like Frostcovered, wouldn't you?

I am really not seeing why Sharptooth would decrease your EXP when, as far as I'm aware, EXP is fixed and only changed if you used items that alter EXP gain or kill a mob with a certain status.

Oh shut Up and Test it already

Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Oh shut up and learn to use your capitals properly.
Honestly, grow up and QQ moar. I can say what I like on forums provided it's within the ToS, go cry more if I say something you don't agree with. ^^

It's you who should grow up.. You write some nonsenses then cannot agree that you made a mistake...
i guess morons always be morons..

RamArch - Lost City wrote: »

Oh shut Up and Test it already

VilkasPilkas - Sanctuary wrote: »

It's you who should grow up.. You write some nonsenses then cannot agree that you made a mistake...
i guess morons always be morons..

The person name calling is telling me to grow up? My my, I spy irony.

I never actually denied I was wrong. Did I say anywhere "No you're all wrong STFU"? No. I just said I personally wouldn't test it. Why?

Because I don't use sharptooth on normal mobs. It's a waste of mana for a pointless debuff. Why is it pointless? Because I kill mobs in under 30 seconds anyway, why would I need to decrease their HP for 30 seconds?

Precisely. Using STA on normal mobs and elite mobs is nothing short of completely pointless and for this reason alone I'm not going to run around testing it. STA is designed for use on bosses and if you use it on a normal mob you're either really bored or you feel like wasting mana. There is no use for this skill on your average daily mob.

So before you tell me to grow up, son, you'd better take a look at yourself (name calling isn't the most mature thing after all, is it?) and you'd also be better to not assume things about people just because of one or two things they say.

It does affect points in Public Quest.

I have confirmed this in Forgotten Frostland, on the boss that spawns mobs in colored circles around it. Sharpened tooth DEFINITELY reduces exp gain from these mobs. Whether or not it's true of any mob/boss/etc, I can't say.

Maybe mobs inside of instances are special in this regard, similar to the way they only lose aggro under special conditions (physically unable to reach you because of cliff, etc).

Discuss.

poures wrote: »

well after another test i did Admante's theory is the correct one, so i am guessing the xp u get is counted of how much actual damage u did to the mob

in my previous test letting sharptooth debuff go away resulted in getting more xp then when i killed while sharptooth still in effect but less then when i killed without sharptooth, i am going to explain this as the mob recovered some of its hp while i was waiting for the sharptooth to go away so i ended up doing a bit more dmg to kill it so thats why i got some extra xp points.

the last test i did was as such, i started hitting a mob and after his health was at middle i used sharptooth, its max hp dropped but not its actually remaining hp because it was already at middle health and then i finished up the mob while sharptooth was still in effect and i got full xp from that mob, same i got as when i killed it without sharptoothing.

My thanx for the research.

Kind of related; Flesh ream gives less xp if it kills the mob you're fighting.

For example, if my nix uses flesh ream on a mob with low hp and the mob dies from bleeding out - I'll get less xp from that mob.