Pet/Genie Skills for HA veno

Zataka - Lost City
Zataka - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Venomancer
hi i am making a heavy veno/fox and was wondering about some good genie skills that would compliment them

Also how many skills can a pet have?
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  • PrettyKittys - Harshlands
    PrettyKittys - Harshlands Posts: 73 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zataka - Lost City wrote: »
    hi i am making a heavy veno/fox and was wondering about some good genie skills that would compliment them

    Also how many skills can a pet have?

    Max 4 Spells, Your pet has to be Pheonix, You have to buy one pet only xD you are getting 3 skills in begain
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    PrettyKittys - Harshlands wrote: »
    Max 4 Spells, Your pet has to be Pheonix, You have to buy one pet only xD you are getting 3 skills in begain

    In addition to this: buy a snowcone, and double squirt of cherry flavor, or just look at Solandri's posts or just realize it comes down to playstyle.
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  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    In addition to this: buy a snowcone, and double squirt of cherry flavor, or just look at Solandri's posts or just realize it comes down to playstyle.

    I think chocolate donut is a much better choice, with some coffee or hot chocolote, but that is just my opinion.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • serevii
    serevii Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    nonono everyone knows that ice cream cake is best
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    serevii wrote: »
    nonono everyone knows that ice cream cake is best

    If you are talking about strawberry icecream cake, I may have to agree with you......
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zataka - Lost City wrote: »
    hi i am making a heavy veno/fox and was wondering about some good genie skills that would compliment them

    Also how many skills can a pet have?
    Since this really tells us nothing about how you play, you should probably iterate this much, unless you want us to tell you that too.
  • IceJazmin - Heavens Tear
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,206 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Since this really tells us nothing about how you play, you should probably iterate this much, unless you want us to tell you that too.

    Stay on topic Janus.. we talking about icecream flavours for icecream cake. Based on the OP post, it is the best we can come up with to help her.
    Too often we loose sight of life's simple pleasures. Remember, when someone annoys you, it takes 42 muscles in your face to frown, BUT, it only takes 4 muscles to extend your arm and slap that mother#$@%#^! upside the head.
  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    IceJazmin - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Stay on topic Janus.. we talking about icecream flavours for icecream cake. Based on the OP post, it is the best we can come up with to help her.
    Ice cream cake > regular cake, and peanut butter cup ice cream for meh. b:chuckle
  • Zataka - Lost City
    Zataka - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    well im gonna be pvping a lot when i get to those levels


    Also wats with all these desserts and flavors and sweetsb:shocked
  • Kucrika - Raging Tide
    Kucrika - Raging Tide Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    for pvp HA, i think you need 4 skills. (i'm HA/AA, btw 77)

    1) extreme poison
    2) holy path
    3) the anti-stun skill (forget the name)
    4)chaotic spirit.

    these 4 skills combo if used correctly, you'll be able to do well.
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kucrika - Raging Tide wrote: »
    for pvp HA, i think you need 4 skills. (i'm HA/AA, btw 77)

    1) extreme poison
    2) holy path
    3) the anti-stun skill (forget the name)
    4)chaotic spirit.

    these 4 skills combo if used correctly, you'll be able to do well.

    I could debate this on some of these skills.

    Extreme poison: agree 100% This skill is very useful in pve and pvp situations
    Holy path: Debatable, in a way... It's very useful, but imo if you choose the demon path at 89, combine demon fox form with summer sprint and there's no need for holy path.
    Anti-stun skill (Fortify? become immune to stuns for 5 secs?) Anyways, useless imo, especially if you choose demon path, and have demon summer sprint, this would already give you immunity to movement impairing effects.. i.e stun being one of them.
    4) Chaotic sprit. I will be testing out this skill as soon as i get the affinity points for it. but I hear its very useful on barbs and bms

    My current genie atm has
    1)holy path (will be taking this off when i get demon fox form. Possibly replacing with extreme poison)
    2)Hollow Fist
    3)second wind (reason for choosing this over ToP was the requistite affinity point my genie has.)

    Future genie skills Im thinking about...
    1) Extreme poison
    2)Hollow fist
    3)Chaotic spirit
    4)Alpha male (Possiblily this would be extremely useful, if the squad was in dire need of a tank, and there was no other option besides you. This skill would help you to keep aggro, only down side: It cancels out bramble guard.)
    5)Cloud eruption (Possibly a good way to gain extra chi, maybe)
    >.<
  • Aeremay - Harshlands
    Aeremay - Harshlands Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kucrika - Raging Tide wrote: »
    for pvp HA, i think you need 4 skills. (i'm HA/AA, btw 77)

    1) extreme poison
    2) holy path
    3) the anti-stun skill (forget the name)
    4)chaotic spirit.

    these 4 skills combo if used correctly, you'll be able to do well.


    I don't know, I use

    1- Chaotic spirit. Most of the time, it works well against venos since when their health gets low, they Soul transfuse, and you can just transfuse it again. Unless they're charmed. It works very well on BMs and Barbs Ms_HopToIt, since they consume a lot of mana whenever fighting. Works pretty well on Assassins too, since they have to go stealth and that uses up their MP, unless charmed.

    2- Holy path. Is the most useful, since on ground you can flee from ganks. Unless stunned.

    3- Extreme poison. It's kind of like the Venomancer's skill in amplifying.

    4- Second wind. It heals you immediately instead of Tree of Protection, it takes partially a bit of your HP, then a few seconds to regain. Making it a disadvantage in PvP, since it's too slow.

    I dunno, rofl, those are the skills I use now ^__^
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    well what are your thoughts on genie skill that may be useful in pve situations for HA venos? like alpha male or cloud eruption? (cloud could be useful in pvp too i guess... )
    >.<
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Aeremay - Harshlands wrote: »
    4- Second wind. It heals you immediately instead of Tree of Protection, it takes partially a bit of your HP, then a few seconds to regain. Making it a disadvantage in PvP, since it's too slow.
    Tree doesn't lower your HP. It increases your max hp, which makes the blue line drop a bit since that's just showing % of max hp. But your current level of HP doesn't change when that happens.
  • Zataka - Lost City
    Zataka - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thanks for all the replies i cant find chaotic spirit in the genie skill list can someone tell me wat it does and affinity?
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    If you're just making your veno i would recommend for you to go AA or LA for the lower levels as it will be much easier to gear and faster to level. Switch to HA at around 7x at least.

    Pet skills; Pierce is usually considered useful if you'll be spending much of your time in Foxform.

    Genie; Fortify you won't really need until mid-high levels. Alpha male is a must if you'll be doing any tanking. Pretty much Second Wind, Holy Path and Extreme Poison should carry you over lower levels. Hollow fist i don't recommend as much. Choose a damage spell based on your genie build, Earthquake is useful at higher levels as an interrupt and i think it has a knockback effect against mobs that get too close.

    My 2 cents, good luck on your veno.
  • Zataka - Lost City
    Zataka - Lost City Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thanks for the suggestions im mostly doing a heavy veno because i like the challenge and so far dueling and stuff is pretty fun.. is tangling mire a decent skill for when i am in fox form?
  • MANray_ - Sanctuary
    MANray_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,311 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zataka - Lost City wrote: »
    thanks for the suggestions im mostly doing a heavy veno because i like the challenge and so far dueling and stuff is pretty fun.. is tangling mire a decent skill for when i am in fox form?

    Tangling Mire is a good skill, although i think it's used more for RB runs and AoE grinding. It could be useful to escape groups of mobs, but chances are you'll be hitting Holy Path or Second Wind instead so i really don't see much benefit to it in lower levels, fox or otherwise.
  • Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary
    Ms_HopToIt - Sanctuary Posts: 914 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MANray_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    If you're just making your veno i would recommend for you to go AA or LA for the lower levels as it will be much easier to gear and faster to level. Switch to HA at around 7x at least.

    Pet skills; Pierce is usually considered useful if you'll be spending much of your time in Foxform.

    Genie; Fortify you won't really need until mid-high levels. Alpha male is a must if you'll be doing any tanking. Pretty much Second Wind, Holy Path and Extreme Poison should carry you over lower levels. Hollow fist i don't recommend as much. Choose a damage spell based on your genie build, Earthquake is useful at higher levels as an interrupt and i think it has a knockback effect against mobs that get too close.

    My 2 cents, good luck on your veno.

    I just choose it cause my genie had the requisite affinity points, but thats completely optional
    >.<

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