PVP veno sage/demon

newgood
newgood Posts: 1 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Venomancer
I am not an expirienced player. I am noob. And i know this question has been asked a 100 times but still i am asking this question again.

i am bad in maths, so do not give me calculative, statistical stuff to point out which one is better in PvP. In plain simple words i want to know the Practical experience of HIGH level veno in PvP. What kind of performance have you seen from both the sides. How many times have you seen sage or demon venos successfully kicking each others **** and also killing others. PLZ do not bring that NIX is all you need thing . I know its very important but skills always matter.

Plz i do not want the answer its your choice and pick anyone you want, i read the skills and i read the same old both are similar thingy. Is there anyone who can tell me what they have actually seen on a pvp ground? can anyone mention names of Sage and Demon venos who have been excellent in PVP? because most Demon venos seem to think they are better at PVP (so i am guessing sage/demon is not equal and balanced stuff that makes it a hard choice when its a PVP), even though i personally think demon skills are very unreliable, i cannot imagine how people can choose something so unperdictable, ofcourse if it works when u are having a lucky day it can make you awesome but the question is how many times can it be possible? Yes i am more inclined towards Sage but if anyone can give me some solid info as to how better have they seen Demons doing much better than Sage in battle-field PVP or if anyone has seen Sage doing much better at PVP than what most people think its ment for PVE , then i would make a definite choice, your solid opinions, facts and what you have seen with your eyes in PVP ground matters to me a lot, i will decide on the basis of what you have seen and think (not dual theory but your solid love for one of the 2 side).

with respect to all expirienced players.
thank you.
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  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    There is no best choice; it all depends on your playing style and what perks you prefer.

    These perks have all been explained in the other 100 threads on this subject. You cannot simply choose by reading a few lines of text; you need to look at your playstyle, look at the perks, find what you like then decide for yourself.
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  • Pressa - Heavens Tear
    Pressa - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,287 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    http://www.ecatomb.net/
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    try that site it has all the sage and demon skills they say demon is better for pvp and sage for pve and although its only slightly true its something that you can base anything on.

    A general rule is this Sage is for chi Demon is for crit rate. Sage has passive modules that increase your abilities. Demon has proactive modules that increase your power. They end up deathly similar and there is no right or wrong choice thats better.

    Sage fox form gives 150% phys def increase
    Demon fox form gives a speed boost

    Sage summer sprint is a purify
    Demon summer sprint is a immune to movement debuffs

    Sage purge is a 5 meter aoe
    Demon purge has less of a cooldown

    Sage venomous scarab can increase your chi by 30
    Demon venomous scarab can decrease the enemies wood defense.

    Bramble Guard
    Sage version lasts twice as long
    Demon version always returns 75% of damage

    Amplify Damage
    Sage version always makes the target take 30% additional damage.
    Demon version lasts 6 seconds longer.

    Melee Mastery
    Sage version always gives 200% damage increase.
    Demon version increases critical hit rate by 3%.

    Lucky Scarab
    Sage version increases stun duration by one second.
    Demon version reduces cooldown by 2 seconds.


    Ironwood Scarab
    Sage version increases physical defense reduction to 20 seconds.
    Demon version only has a 20% chance of success, but will reduce physical defense to zero instead.

    Basically its only your choice there are no right answers whichever looks more useful to you and what you do is what you need to pick.
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  • Azura - Lost City
    Azura - Lost City Posts: 2,281 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Both are ok in my opinion. I am sage but I don't think demon is better or worse. You are gonna have to choose on your own. I'll give you a little hint: demon is better for agressive people on pvp.
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    if you have enough cash for Parasitic Nova and Ironwood Scarab, i would go for demon.
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It all depends on your playstyle, both are very good for PvP
    Demon parasitic nova = sex
    demon ironwood..since when was that expensive?
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    didnt say it was expensive, just said "if you have the cash" b:victory
  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    when you compare the price of the 2 skills..it makes it obvious your hinting its expensive
    nova = 25m+
    ironwood = 2m lol
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  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    What I seriously love about demon is the speed.

    Not only the fast cooldowns, but the boost foxform gives you; you can run constantly at 10.4m/s+... I do believe you become the fastest moving class in the game (obv not counting people on mounts).
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  • Sadpuma - Heavens Tear
    Sadpuma - Heavens Tear Posts: 286 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Azura - Lost City wrote: »
    Both are ok in my opinion. I am sage but I don't think demon is better or worse. You are gonna have to choose on your own. I'll give you a little hint: demon is better for agressive people on pvp.

    Im aggressive.... (and sage) b:surrender
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  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    barbs get almost 10m/s in their tiger form but the thing is they dont have to switch form and they can also use cape/boots with +speed

    well, the basic skill of venos (venomous) is also nice as demon. to see a bigger difference between sage and demon you need to learn those very expensive books, not the cheap ones. i only have 4 demon skills...

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