Pet for Fist Veno

Possibly a Shaodu Cub. It does terrible damage, but has Pierce and Pounce, both of which are quite useful. And it's got pretty good defense on the off chance that it does take aggro. Though it's level 20, and I have no idea about its self-heal ability.

As for the fist veno, doesn't melee mastery only apply in foxform? Are you planning to do the excessively complicated "break fists, transform, repair" thing each time you log in?

Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »

As for the fist veno, doesn't melee mastery only apply in foxform? Are you planning to do the excessively complicated "break fists, transform, repair" thing each time you log in?

TT 80 fists 451-498 p.atk (474.5 avg) 0.7 sec/atk
TT80 magic sword 370-555 p.atk (462.5 avg) 0.8 sec/atk

The difference in base damage is almost negligible (2.5%). The +70 p.atk bonus is nice, but factor in refines and shards and it's only about 15%. The difference in attack speed accounts for a 14% difference in DPS. In other words, your gain for doing this only ~30% extra p.atk. For that, you're giving up all magic, stuck in fox form, and have to do the "break fists, transform, repair" thing. Is it really worth it for a paltry ~30% increase in damage?

It makes more sense at around level 90-100 when you can load up on all the -interval gear possible. Add -0.1 interval fists and the fists can end up doing about -80% more damage than a magic sword. So I can understand wanting to try this if you've already got a high level heavy veno. But leveling one up from scratch using fists?

A pet with pierce is a great ally for increasing your phy. attk. on monsters. A lyxnus is one I know that has pierce. An oddfoot, cactopod, or a scorpion may work out. Antelopes are icky >.<

Dark Wanderer. Tough and roar to spread the damage between you two and pierce. The fouth spot can be used for threaten(I'm planning to learn it on mine). Also a superb DD and pdef pet for general purpose.

Otherwise, just turn off the skill of your pet(right click yellow border skill, or a different one to make it the enw defaul one), work nicely for my lv27 battle fox alt. She will be using a mirage sword for a long time, so I can bramble myself to add to the damage(contrary to this repair-fist-in-fox-form thingy, 1st time I see that).

My other two pet are a soft cactopod(range) and a carapest terror. I'm thinking the carapest while be usefull to take the 1st spell of most mobs later in the game. And uniqueness too.

I use a bow and have a Shaodu Cub with heal skill added (I took off the toughen skill). This works well and there's very little down time having to heal the pet myself.

Mayfly - Dreamweaver wrote: »

A heavy armor veno friend of mine used a snow hare as main battle pet. It has a self-heal skill and comes with a couple of debuffs (though not pierce, I think.)

I too use the snow hare on my HA Fox veno. It rarely steals aggro + it does come with level 1 pierce.

phormio wrote: »

I use a bow and have a Shaodu Cub with heal skill added (I took off the toughen skill). This works well and there's very little down time having to heal the pet myself.

This would work at lower lv, but I'm interested to know your experience with a bowveno after lv50.

I had totally forgotten about the quigfu(only have boost) and the snow hare when I made my earlier post, both should work alright. The snow hare, from memory, come with sandblow, pierce, shriek(at lv1, 60% chance to interupt channeling) and boost. The bunny can also double as a fast running lure pet.

Also, the lv2 beetles only come with tough if you want to know. Their stat are almost copy-paste of the shadou cub, good tank, poor damage dealing.

The last pet which come with no (elemental)bash or flesh ream is the new ocean chanter. Shriek and slow, but both create agro when used. Also, not very good stat wise(it all went to the look).

In case you missed this info from my previous post, right click your favorite pet's skill to turn it off and prepare yourself to take a beating.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

So, I'm starting up an alt, doing the crazy "Heavy armour and fist" build.
Which means I have *no* points for magic, which is fine 'cause I can't cast spells anyway.

So. I'm at a low level, and it kinda works like an underpowered BM (since I don't have melee mastery yet - a VASTLY underpowered one) and I'm hitting an unexpected problem.

My pet steals aggro from me. And I have no way to heal it. (Even equipping coloured wand I heal for about 30hp, which aint cutting it at level 16)

So I need a pet with high healing rate. And a moderately low damage output.

The only pet I know about with self-heal skill is the antelope pup (and I'm way too small for that for now)

So. I'm asking an unusual question - what is a BAD pet to use, from the point of view of dealing damage.

First HA veno now this... b:laugh maybe venoes are overpowered afterall it gets boring b:chuckle at least I think and melee mastery only WORKS on venoes in FOX FORM with MAGIC INSTRUMENT... then again its forums, i guess there will be guides of clerics with bows with HA, and I saw a cleric with hammers and HA not too long ago.


Axe / hammer clerics pwns anyday / sarcasm