Name the most difficult class

Blademaster is a very difficult class to play. There have been many times when I regretted choosing it as my starting class.

The primary problem is that most mobs have a magic attack at long range, and in order to get into melee with them you have to take one of those magic hits with your heavy armor. Then throw in another mob spawning behind you, and you die. A lot. Barbs have enough HP to cover this problem, BMs do not.

It also doesn't help that most of the low-level BM skills are near-worthless.

If you can survive to a high enough level, BM is a very fun class to play, and extremely versatile. But there's a lot of suffering before that.

Clerics are ridiculously easy to play; I can't believe people think they're hard. They have great DD, buffs, healing, the complete package really. I think people who say they're hard put too many points in vit or dex or something.

I'll go easiest to hardest in my list.

1. Veno.. super-duper easy in every way you can think of. Easiet grinder. hardly any cost to grinding so builds money fast. My veno has funneled much money to my other classes. Can solo quest other have to squad up for.

2. Psychic.. Maybe i just improve alot since i lvled a wizard but this seems so easy in comparison. Decent to grind but heavey mana cost.

3. Archer.. I'll admit i dont have much expience with archer but the lttle amount i did play it seems fairly easy.

4. Wizard.. Almost want to lvl another wizard up to 60 jsut to see how much better i could do it a second time. Slightly less mana cost than psychic but get good skill a bit later.

5. Barb.. To me grinding is not that fun when you have to run to each mob and not range hit it. Also you have fairly high HP, MP and maintinence cost so you don't make much money either. To tell the truth if it wasn't for the new BH system i probably wouldnt be leveling this barb up.

6. Cleric.. I vote cleric is hardest. I just think this is a unfun and hard class to play. Heavey mana cost sucks too.

I would say my list is proven correct by the amount of each class in game. Cleric, Barb and Wizard are the rarest classes in game.

Classes not listed, i feel i dont have enough expierience to comment on. i have not played or BM or assassin past level 6. Im guessing BM adn assassin would be close to barb but a bit easier.

archer i played til lv 15 then im making a new one coz i didnt like how it looks like but wasnt too hard (maybe coz im used to being ranger)

veno playedtil lv 2x then gave up too boring i fall asleep way too easy imo

cleric my lv 26 cleric arcane gets owned 24/7 .-. hard imo ima make a new one LA this time

barb - got bored on pve i dont have big dmg dealer n takes forever to kill mobs.

wizard - i almost quit multiple times i hated it n somehow survived til lv 83 o.o now i like how im so powerful

assasin - played til lv 26 i dont like it too much i rather be using my bm lil harder than a bm

psi - mine not even lv 10 yet so dunno was easy so far

b:surrender

CapnK - Sanctuary wrote: »

The primary problem is that most mobs have a magic attack at long range, and in order to get into melee with them you have to take one of those magic hits with your heavy armor. Then throw in another mob spawning behind you, and you die. A lot. Barbs have enough HP to cover this problem, BMs do not.

We have skills like Tiger Leap and Shadowless Kick (or even genie skills like Holy Path) to make sure the magic mobs don't actually use their magic. Stun them if you must. Personally I think BMs should be preventing damage instead of relying on their high-ish HP to take the hit.
And if another mob spawns behind you...well, it's time to run. Utilize marrow magical if there are many mobs in the way. We have good sprint skills after all. If you stay to fight them then you really need to learn our limitation before anything else.

I dont have any class that i find difficult to play. I hardly died using a Archer or a Wiz. I mean when I played my archer the first time I died was when I had to for my lvl39 spirit culti. I only just have classes I dont like, which are Barbs and BMs. I just feel like they kill to slow for me.

BM's and here's my theory on it.

I've played an archer before I rerolled a wizard. It wasn't too hard--just a pain in the **** when the mobs get to you (and my stats were screwed up--arcane archer ftw). When I rerolled a wiz, I thought "m'kay...this is gonna be hard". It was, but not until I decided to try out a BM...never got passed level 5.

My calling was definitely for magic classes, and it made it really hard to transition to a melee class.

Wizard and Cleric ←hardest in Solo PvE game play (mana issues, squishy, slow chanelling) Psychics have short chanelling so they arent as hard. Venomancers have pets..etc.

Archers are very good for PvE. They arent under powered. UP until level 40 you suck (bit like wizard.) but after 40 your crit hits start to get higher, and you have high levels of winged shell (2nd best solo grinding skill ever.)

I played every class ..so far the hardest one are the Assassins then the Wizards .
Other class kill from range before been reached and/or has buffs.

I would advice to a new PWI player NOT to play Sins as first class neither a wiz.
Those 2 class need the best gears ( expensive) and a LOT of game knowledge and playing skills !!b:thanks

Any other class a new player can roll easier.b:victory

tweakz wrote: »

BS. A Wiz can indeed kill from range before being reached even with cheap gears. I only played a Barb to level 18, that was enough to turn me away.

true
and if teh target doesn't die...just kite some more with gush.
b:chuckle

Hardest is prolly Barbarian because they are expensive (repair cost) and have crappy damage at low lvls. They need good gear to tank effectively.


btw, Archer is the easiest if it's played right (and not as boring as veno). Especially after you get knockback at lvl19. Just keep winged shell on whenever you can, use frost arrow, knockback and normal attacks. I'm currently mid lvl (pure dex), only died once because of DC, no upgraded gear yet and rarely use potions. I never kite, just knockback. I get faction help for bosses, though.
Edit: I almost forgot about the Tree of protection Genie skill I just got xD Awesome way to recover HP

I think some people are confusing "powerful" and "versatile" with "easy". I currently play a level 6x veno, a level 5x cleric, and a level 4x psychic (that way each one gets the hand-me-downs from the one 10 levels above it), and I'd say that cleric only beats out veno in difficulty by a tiny bit.

With venos it is often rather easy, but, for example, when soloing bosses (like in TT or CoA) it can get very complex to coordinate pet skills, your attacks, watch pet & your health, healing pet, and maintaining enough MP; it's possible to get a bit overwhelmed. Even in squads, making sure you pull the best mobs (properly), grabbing aggro from squishies that got aggro, trying to keep pet from wandering into mobs, etc.... Also, deciding what pets to get and how to level up your pets' skills in addition to your own... so, yes, it can be quite difficult to do optimally. (It's always easy to do things poorly.) There are lots of tricks venos can do, and learning them all and using them appropriately makes venos a difficult class to master.

The only reason I say cleric is harder is because you have to deal with real, live idiots in parties sometimes. Keeping yourself alive is pretty easy with clerics, what with heals, buffs, and Plume Shell; but keeping alive 5 other people at once when they're running off in different directions aggroing a bunch of mobs all at once, while not getting yourself killed, can be quite difficult. Trying to reign in impatient fools who won't wait for the cleric involves diplomatic skills, which can be tricky too (though venos often need to do the same for impatient idiots who use genie pulls when veno pulls are better.) So, while a veno has to protect others, they just have to watch the mobs, a cleric has to watch the HP gauges and status icons for all players, plus keep an eye on the mobs and player locations to be a high quality cleric.

So far my psychic has been fairly easy, though I've only begun to do BHs, so I'm still learning aggro control with that character. The toughest part about my psychic has been the total absence of physical attacks, so I got my genie a physical attack skill. This one is a bit of a glass cannon, compared to my other two (full mag psychic vs. LA cleric and vit build veno), but with the emphasis on "cannon", so most mobs don't even get close when solo questing, and there's the Landslide knockback for when they do.

I like magical classes (as you can see above), but wizard hasn't really tempted me, since it seems less interesting to me as a basic DDer. Psychics are a bit better, due to the buffs, debuffs, and "Soul of X" skills, not to mention the squad heal. I can't wait to see what their level 79 & 100 skills do.

So, yes, venomancer is a difficult class in some ways, even if it does allow you to get through many situations more easily than other classes, since you're basically a combination tank/cleric/DDer in one with your pet. However, clerics are the hardest of the three classes I've tried, due to the human randomness you have to deal with in squads.

P.S. To the Op: It's "psychic", not "physic".

i would have to say for me the top 3 classes i have trouble with are archers clerics & my new sin(god is it a pain in the bum)b:surrender

Why is it so hard for people to spell psychic?

I have to agree with the archer above. Barbarian is the hardest class to play in my opinion.

Most Difficult classes to level:

Archer and sin: most difficult level range is lvl 20-30. Both classes are LA coupled with lower HP , the mobs outside Archosaur can be hard to deal with.

For Archers, kitting can take some time to get used to. For sins, it's to learn the correct timing to use what skills that matters.

After what seems to be eons, Archers starts to shine at 60 where crits come more often and at later stages, normal shots + knockback is all you will ever need. Coupled with some mana regen, you can grind endlessly, without downtime at all.

Most easiest to level: Psychics and Mage.

Anything that they cannot kill within their nukes, they can always kite. Kiting is easier with these classes, at least for me.

Also, different mob elements need to be exploited in order to fully maximise damage to lessen kiting. Timing of skills can lead to various combos for both classes (some tweaking required).

A combo may work for most mobs, but it may require tweaking for another mob with another element.

Strategizing is the key for these 2 DD classes. Technically, these 2 classes can kite anything that doesn't kill them within 3 shots, though results may vary for individuals.

For Psychic, it's recommended that you get 'psychic will' in case the mob gets too close for comfort and stuns fails for range mobs. Landslide is always for melee mobs.

For mages, your 'Shunpo' or shrink distance is mightily useful for kiting.

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

you find physics easy?
b:chuckle
what do you mayhaps know about finding teh magnetic dipole moment of a magnetic field?
b:puzzled

Hmmmm. Compass!