What Should I Get for my 5th Genie Skill?

MrBladey - Lost City
MrBladey - Lost City Posts: 120 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Blademaster
Hello fellow blademasters, b:laugh

I plan on making a new strength genie. I want one at least with 51/70 lucky points for the 5th skill.

True Emptiness Level 10
Tree of Protection Level 10
Tangling Mire Level 10
Occult Ice Level 10

I already decided on these 4 skills. I've put Holy Path into consideration but it seems a bit pointless considering there's leaps and the 2 sprints.

Affinity- 15 Total (1 extra left)
Water – 7
Earth – 1
Wood – 3
Metal – 3
Fire - 0

EDIT : I'm planning on making a PVP genie. So any magical based spike damage skill suggestion would be appreciated.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    nvm, i'd rather not share ;x
  • Dr_goth - Raging Tide
    Dr_goth - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    2nd wind sounds like a good skill.... only skill i use from my genie.
    WHY did i add Points to magic QQ b:infuriated
    I am i think the most fail pw player there ever was. i count 16+ different chars, most of them fails
  • MrBladey - Lost City
    MrBladey - Lost City Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    nvm, i'd rather not share ;x

    But sharing is caring. Q_Q
    Dr_goth - Raging Tide wrote: »
    2nd wind sounds like a good skill.... only skill i use from my genie.

    Nah, I got Tree of Protection for that. Second wind's good for lower levels but when you get more health TOP will win hands down.
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  • Dr_goth - Raging Tide
    Dr_goth - Raging Tide Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I see... did not know that. still kinda new to The blademaster Class
    WHY did i add Points to magic QQ b:infuriated
    I am i think the most fail pw player there ever was. i count 16+ different chars, most of them fails
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Assume you are making a STR genie? These are the two I have.

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=596741&highlight=genie

    I haven't filled up the 6th skill yet. With 101 STR, Relentless Courage can boost my attack speed more than demon spark. It's a shame that I'm one affinity short for it -______________-. PW's making me get to 95. b:cry
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  • Ghost_eyes - Lost City
    Ghost_eyes - Lost City Posts: 67 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Dr_goth - Raging Tide wrote: »
    2nd wind sounds like a good skill.... only skill i use from my genie.

    O.o Variety is the fruit of life
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Second Wind is only effective on a STR genie... and you want a LOT of strength... like 80-100 points on it.

    Tree of Protectoin, str just increases your max hp, which would be good if you have lvl 100 skill Flash, but otherwise will just tick your charm for a LOT if you mis-time it. ToP works best on a blanced or pure dex build genie.

    Holy Path is pretty much a required skill, I have it on both my PvE (mixed stat) and PvP (str) genie.
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  • Yildiz - Lost City
    Yildiz - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    What is the difference between PvE & PvP?
  • Kimbley - Harshlands
    Kimbley - Harshlands Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yildiz - Lost City wrote: »
    What is the difference between PvE & PvP?

    Pve- player vs environment... against mobs and whatnot...
    PvP- player vs player... fighting other people.
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Assume you are making a STR genie? These are the two I have.

    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=596741&highlight=genie

    I haven't filled up the 6th skill yet. With 101 STR, Relentless Courage can boost my attack speed more than demon spark. It's a shame that I'm one affinity short for it -______________-. PW's making me get to 95. b:cry

    The speed boost from relentless courage is nice I admit, but it only lasts 8 seconds and costs 140 energy. Not worth it imo. Especially since you leave yourself defenseless for 2-3 minutes for an 8 second speed boost.
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    The speed boost from relentless courage is nice I admit, but it only lasts 8 seconds and costs 140 energy. Not worth it imo. Especially since you leave yourself defenseless for 2-3 minutes for an 8 second speed boost.

    I just want to see what it's like to have more -int gears than I really do. b:sadb:surrender
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  • Legendadry - Harshlands
    Legendadry - Harshlands Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    get Holy Path you will need it for TW's. I'd get rid of occult ice as well because w/ Holy Path catching kiteing mages or running in to stun opponents is so much eaiser w/ it.
    I dont level Slow I just enjoy the game b:surrender
  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Legendadry - Harshlands wrote: »
    get Holy Path you will need it for TW's. I'd get rid of occult ice as well because w/ Holy Path catching kiteing mages or running in to stun opponents is so much eaiser w/ it.

    Whirlwind works better than occult ice imo... only 45 energy cost,100% success rate

    Aoe 18 meters, and range 18 meters. and Holy path is good in TW
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    TheDan - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Whirlwind works better than occult ice imo... only 45 energy cost,100% success rate

    Aoe 18 meters, and range 18 meters. and Holy path is good in TW

    How's that better? It only slow them down. If you are using fists, you'd still be chasing them and barely hitting. It also won't work in air. If you want AoE slow, use Mire.
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    How's that better? It only slow them down. If you are using fists, you'd still be chasing them and barely hitting. It also won't work in air. If you want AoE slow, use Mire.

    There's a glitch in the description, but it also AoE paralyzes for 1 second, if you have lv1 whirlwind it only cost 45 energy, 15 sec cooldown, all u need to do is AoE Roar and you'll have stopped like 10-15 people in 1 clump. it's good to do when inside enemy HQ.

    Or if you have ur fist 79 skill.. bolt of tyeseus. lol then roar
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  • Legendadry - Harshlands
    Legendadry - Harshlands Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lol y would u use fists in TW?
    I dont level Slow I just enjoy the game b:surrender
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I didn't say TW. He said Holy Path is good in TW.
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Legendadry - Harshlands wrote: »
    lol y would u use fists in TW?

    the 79 fist skill is epic, axes are a must for crowd controlling tho P:
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  • RADD_RATT - Harshlands
    RADD_RATT - Harshlands Posts: 349 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ...balance?
  • MrBladey - Lost City
    MrBladey - Lost City Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Legendadry - Harshlands wrote: »
    get Holy Path you will need it for TW's. I'd get rid of occult ice as well because w/ Holy Path catching kiteing mages or running in to stun opponents is so much eaiser w/ it.

    Hmmmmm on Ecatomb it says that the proc rate for Occult Ice is 30% from level 1 to 10. On Lyndura's BM guide it gets to 60% as you level it higher.

    If it's 60% you could potential build a strength and vitality genie for a really reliable 36 second stun.

    So anyone with level 10 Occult Ice wanna confirm its stats for me :D.
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The base chance is 30%. She either wrote the guide and the skill changed after or just miss wrote it.
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  • MrBladey - Lost City
    MrBladey - Lost City Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Thanks alot! Occult Ice dosen't seem worth all the affinities with a proc rate like that. b:shocked

    Would you be kind enough to give a few suggestions on a magic spike genie damage skill? b:pleased
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm sorry to say but if you don't have occult ice, you fail as a warrior.
  • MrBladey - Lost City
    MrBladey - Lost City Posts: 120 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    I'm sorry to say but if you don't have occult ice, you fail as a warrior.

    But it seems a bit useless with only a base 30% proc rate.

    Unless you have 100+ strength it's proc rate won't be that good. Wouldn't the energy be better spent on something that has a higher chance of working?
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  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    With 100 STR, mine procs at 80% which is pretty reliable. 80 energy isn't too much to ask. Nothing else works as Occult Ice does.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It's an insta cast stun... do I need to say more? I'd rather not because I've learned that while teaching people how to play is cool and all I prefer if people learn for themselves, making you better sure as hell doesn't help me improve. Not trying to be selfish or anything.. if you can't see why a 70+% chance to stun somebody without stopping your attacks and that it will overlap with a stun (see: mage class) then I won't bother.
  • dekciw
    dekciw Posts: 954 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Occult ice is like the best disable in the game, not sure why you wouldn't get that.
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  • TheDan - Sanctuary
    TheDan - Sanctuary Posts: 3,495 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Occult Ice works really well with whirlwind.. if you have enough skill slots to learn both, it's epic.

    and as Devoted said, it overlaps stun and you don't need to stop your attacks to cast another stun or consume chi.

    and trust me, even if you have mastered stunlocking like I have, you still can't predict when/if mages use badge of courage and instant cast distance shrink... enough said. Occult Ice is a must lol.
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