Frostcover run, Cleric and BB :)

Miasora - Lost City
Miasora - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Cleric
Yay... I'm not virgin anymore, I've just done my very first Frostcover run (FC) today :D

I had a squad made of: Barb 93, BM 88, Wiz 89, Wiz 87, Veno 81 and me Cleric 81. Veno is my friend, we're both never been in FC run before. So yeah, for such a low level noobs, all we have to do is just following other's instructions, whose is pro. And that Barb is very pro, he explain us step by step what to do in every room or hall.

The complete run took us ~2 1/2 h, because we had so many breaks due to those explainations, someone's afk, smoke's break, bathroom, snack, drink and etc. etc. etc. xD But the whole run was ok, I died 5x there, used 3x res and 2x guardian scrolls, also like around 40-50x Lvl 75 event mp pots... hey, this is my first run -_- And clerics are allways at lost (mp wise), we know it. Not to forget, only lvl 85+ can get Quests, Past of Frostcover City (for Sign) and Medals there, so I done this run purely for experience and testing my skill. Anyway, also the exp/ spirits rewards for each run is awesome, I got +15%. So, this isn't really a bad idea to make it as a new dailies (except CS, WQ, BH etc. :)

Although, to be honest, I did underestimated it on the start. I thought all clerics needs to do is just going to the next door, then BB, while Barb luring and Wiz AoE (Zhen)... going to the entrance of the hall, then BB and so on. But when we reached the first boss with the circles... Omg, I got trapped on that circles 2x, which means 2x died allready at the first boss QQ. And its going worse on the next room, those Bishops sucks, they kept interrupting my heals. But the hard thing is, I have to look out on everyone's HP and I have to decide: when I should spam IB on the tank, when I should heal the BM instead, when its time to use AoE heals, when to use BB, also when to use pots or even genie skills to keep myself alive. OMG, it rocks! So much actions were needed to think, to decide, and to do, but very quick... it was sooo much FUN, I start to loving it :D

Hell yeah... in the end, all of the squad members appraised me for doing a good job at my first run. And now that I ever done it once, I don't need to be scared to join any FC squad anymore. I have the experience and know what to do in each room. I just need to lvl up to 85+, so I can get the quests inside too, also collecting drops for a Frostcover Sign ^.^


Btw on the last boss: Haleen, is it better to use BB instead AoE heals?

Maxed Chromatic Healing Beams heals 1070 HP plus 20% of base magic attack, it needs 970 Mana, 3.5 seconds Channeling, 1.0 seconds Casting and 3.0 seconds Cooldown.

While BB heals 300 HP plus 20% of base magic attack every 5 seconds, but with 50% damage reductions.

I wonder... which one is more essential (heals, time and pots wise) ?


So, Clerics... share your Frostcover run's experiences, no matter the good one or the fail one :D

Which squad you had, was it a good one? filled with pros? or just some noobs?

And how you complete it? BB all the way? failed on luring? run out of pots? or are you just depending or the other cleric?


Thanks for taking your time reading this thread, I hope your experiences shared here might be helpfull for other Clerics to do a good Frostcover run :)
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    on last boss Holeen or whatever his name be it be better to use BB me think.
    although mayhaps chromatic aoe heal mayhaps could work.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Whichever boss you can't aoe on: the wizard who had way more experience than me aoed. b:surrender The other cleric, the wizard in question, and I all died. The other cleric had a ress scroll fortunately, so she ressed and ressed us all. Then the wizard promptly aoed again.

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Whichever boss you can't aoe on: the wizard who had way more experience than me aoed. b:surrender The other cleric, the wizard in question, and I all died. The other cleric had a ress scroll fortunately, so she ressed and ressed us all. Then the wizard promptly aoed again.

    Good times, good times.

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    was that wizard me?
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  • Sheeeba - Dreamweaver
    Sheeeba - Dreamweaver Posts: 287 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    on last boss Holeen or whatever his name be it be better to use BB me think.
    although mayhaps chromatic aoe heal mayhaps could work.

    LOL How remarkably indecisive. b:chuckle

    Anyway, I've only gone on FC as my veno, but I'm looking forward to doing it with my cleric too. Mind telling me how much hp u have, so i know how much I should shoot for before i go?
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i have 4,2k unbuffed HP and i know that 2nd boss will kill me if i dont use genie or hp food before he catch me into water bubble

    with 5,4 hp buffed (when i run with barb) he is not able to kill me


    anyway, done it buffed/unbuffed and 2nd boss is main survivality factor for cler imo

    rest depends on squad and ur genie (expel or absolute domain for zhen on phy mobs b:cry)
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  • Torsay - Sanctuary
    Torsay - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Grats. I solo healed FC at level 82 for the first time. Done few runs before that and many after.

    It just takes a good barb and good BM then its pretty easy.
  • Mrvate - Heavens Tear
    Mrvate - Heavens Tear Posts: 406 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Good job and grats, my first run took alot longer then that and I used like 80 of those 5k mp pots. on the last boss I'll BB it works better imo, but don't set it up too close to him as he has a small aoe interrupt (and make sure people don't move him QQ).

    and on health it really depends 3k should be enough. But once you get to 4k hp FF gets alot nicer imo. You will have far fewer charm ticks, and can do it uncharmed.
  • Sylredrae - Sanctuary
    Sylredrae - Sanctuary Posts: 209 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I honestly haven't done FCC yet, but I'm hoping to once I get strong enough. Just wondering, what would be a good lvl for me to try FCC and survive the experience? My main problem might be that I don't have an extraordinary lot of hp... at lvl 72 with about 50 vit, I think it's nearly 2k unbuffed. I also don't use charms because I can't afford them. Other than bringing a ton of mp food and pots, what should I do to better prepare for it?
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  • AlanWake - Harshlands
    AlanWake - Harshlands Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i have 4,2k unbuffed HP and i know that 2nd boss will kill me if i dont use genie or hp food before he catch me into water bubble

    with 5,4 hp buffed (when i run with barb) he is not able to kill me


    anyway, done it buffed/unbuffed and 2nd boss is main survivality factor for cler imo

    rest depends on squad and ur genie (expel or absolute domain for zhen on phy mobs b:cry)

    Why are you needing to use genie skills on these bosses. . I have never needed too. Properly placed Chromatic heals, purifies, IH's, BB's, and RB's are really all that is needed in fc. . ooh and weapon of choosing during wack-o-mole mini game b:pleased
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    what u do if 2nd boss catch u into bubble?
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I've done fc a few times so this might not be the best way but for the bubble, if there's a wiz, they can help with support heal for the cleric(also for the times where the cleric is slept and someone else needed the heal).

    Or bring 2 clerics in.
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    2 clerics - meh

    but wiz mit work =3
    if there any
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  • AlanWake - Harshlands
    AlanWake - Harshlands Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    what u do if 2nd boss catch u into bubble?[

    for me when i get caught i get caught ha. . soon as sleep is off i chromatic. .have yet been in a squad where the sleep duration was enough to over power chromatic. . I've been in mainly squads with mid 80 characters

    And Para is right, 2 clerics is mehh, not effective honestly, the wizzy as a back up healer in emergencies should be more then enough b:victory
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    what u do if 2nd boss catch u into bubble?[

    for me when i get caught i get caught ha. . soon as sleep is off i chromatic. .have yet been in a squad where the sleep duration was enough to over power chromatic. . I've been in mainly squads with mid 80 characters

    And Para is right, 2 clerics is mehh, not effective honestly, the wizzy as a back up healer in emergencies should be more then enough b:victory

    I have a feeling that this is not what he wants to know. Another way to phrase is will you survive the bubble?

    Also, I would like to add charm as one of the way to survive the bubble. But thats an expensive way to do it.
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    yea, i was talking bout doing it charmless and without 2nd cler
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  • AlanWake - Harshlands
    AlanWake - Harshlands Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    yea, i was talking bout doing it charmless and without 2nd cler

    aww, now see that would have been helpful. .

    I'm hardly ever charmed so i myself use genie skills

    was just making a point that you can quite easily do it. . just bit more spendy b:shocked
  • Miasora - Lost City
    Miasora - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hm... I have only 2,9k HP unbuffed atm, it becomes ~ 3,8k with Barb's buff. I used HP charm that time and Genie's Second Wind when it's cooldown, so I had less worry on my own while watching other's HP ^.^

    Btw, is that 2nd boss... the one that explode? the one that does 20m AoE attack after shout "Shlash"?... If yes, I died on him once as I forgot to run while I spamming IB on tank. It done 4k damages on me, it was a 1 shot -_- So for this reason, I think it's a good idea to have HP more than 4k (buffed/ unbuffed) just for sincerity :)

    I'm just a bit sad, that many squad is a bit picky on choosing their members. They always asking for pro cleric 90+ and underestimate the lower levels. So I find it hard lately to join any FC squad, even though they really need a cleric, they refused and said that I'm too low level for it... sigh :/ Well, I need 3 more Level to reach 85. But until then, there'll be no more 2x exp/ drops, so I guess there'll be less FC run.... and many ppl gonna back for gamma/ delta QQ


    ps: and yes, having 2nd cleric for FC is a waste. DD can be more usefull than another healer ^.^


    edit:
    As for being slept, I also used Chromatic then spam IB on tank as soon as I was freed and keep repeating it untill done.

    The best decision I made was, when we're on the boss where Bishops keep respawning and sleep/ debuff us, I refused to attack... even when boss do low damage on tank, even when all members told me to help killing Bishops... but if I attack when I'm free then I'm slept when I'm needed to heal, what will happen?... so I just said, that I refuse to attack. I will keep anyone alive instead. And that worked really well, all survive and boss died fast enough, since all others can help DD and let me take care of their HP :)
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  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sometimes they want a lvl89+ cleric because they have 3 sparks, makes BB easier to put up(But having a veno who keeps giving you sparks, or the genie skill that gives chi can probably negate that). But I have to agree that the level of the cleric does not really matter at all as long as they have sufficient hp to survive and all the necessary skills ( Chromatic heal, purify, revive, BB, IH ).

    About the boss with the frost bishops, it's really up to you to attack it or not. With a decent squad, they can repeatedly stun the bishop so the cleric wont have to do anything but IH the tank and maybe an occasional party heal or 2. But make sure to get out of the way when the bishop spawns right beside you and start attacking you.

    I've personally done all my FC as a solo cleric but some experienced members of the squad mentioned the squad with 2 clerics. And besides, the 2nd cleric can help as a DD, it's not like we can't deal damage at all even though other classes do better in it.

    Edit: I want to know myself what is the reason they want higher level clerics too. Can any higher level clerics please tell me?
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    coz h-lvl > l-lvl ?

    that s what ppz are usually thinking
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sometimes people want a higher level cleric because a barb isn't necessary to run a FF, but at the same time, if some idiot smacks the little Soul Reaper Divided or misses hands, a cleric with 5K HP unbuffed will still survive. Not to mention more HP = more survivability on the 2nd boss, and overall. In many instances having that extra bit of HP has prevented squad wipes and me wasting GS's or xp. A solo cleric will be fine with plenty of HP and tree for the bubble on 2nd boss in extremely rare case he nails you with two in a row before you can heal. Personally, I don't waste charms on FF when it's not necessary and when certain bosses there are built to **** your charm.

    I also make sure to have Expel on my genie when the barb/bm/HAveno pulls large groups of mobs into BB so I can expel myself and not take dmg.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    coz h-lvl > l-lvl ?

    that s what ppz are usually thinking

    but high level reduces teh exp.
    b:sweat
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    but high level reduces teh exp.
    b:sweat
    The real XP killer, from experience, comes from level 97+ players in squad.
  • AlanWake - Harshlands
    AlanWake - Harshlands Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    honestly as long as the cleric knows what there doing and how to play, 80+ cleric is all you need with a good squad
  • VidaLove - Heavens Tear
    VidaLove - Heavens Tear Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I love to do FF run with this model of squad:

    1 Barb
    2 BMs
    1Veno
    1Cleric
    1 Wiz/Archer

    For Fast Run b:cute
  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    FCCs are soooo dang fun when going with a great squad. I've gotten so discourage after getting into fail squads...-sigh-b:worried
  • _Pale - Sanctuary
    _Pale - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    what u do if 2nd boss catch u into bubble?

    With buffed values of 8361 water magic resitance/ + 2100 p.def/ 4385 HP (completely unbuffed 5517 water mag res./ 864 p.def/ 3373 HP) the bubble of doom doesn't seem to kill me even after the debuff. I wait out the bubble of doom, use second wind to replenish HP, continue heal/purify. HP reaches scary low levels though.

    b:surrender
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    wait wait
    so evil bubble of doom dont kill u even with 4385/3373 HP?

    is dmg reduced depending on ur life then? (somehow, i never wanted to test it by myself :P)

    it wudnt be so bizarre after all - FC is stupid like that..


    are you sure?
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  • _Pale - Sanctuary
    _Pale - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    wait wait
    so evil bubble of doom dont kill u even with 4385/3373 HP?

    is dmg reduced depending on ur life then? (somehow, i never wanted to test it by myself :P)

    it wudnt be so bizarre after all - FC is stupid like that..


    are you sure?

    yep, was caught 4 or 5 times in the bubble a few days ago.
    Only cleric in squad and HP dropped to the same point every time without killing me. I'm thinking somehow these parameters might be connected to determine the damage you recieve: water mag resistence/ p. def / total HP. Can't find a definitive description of the damage deal of the bubble, so I have to guess.

    I'm not sure if it doesn't have to do with the composition of the squad (81 archer /85 blader/86 veno/84 cleric/87 barb and one 96 archer) or with the number of adds you kill before starting on the boss.
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    wow, and i was always so afraid of that bubble xD
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  • Candie - Raging Tide
    Candie - Raging Tide Posts: 83 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Did it 2 times , don't want to do it ever again ...