Why the R?

Vitenka - Dreamweaver
Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
edited February 2010 in General Discussion
Been bugging me for a while, now.

PK - player killer. Longstanding term.

RPK.

I can't help but read that as "Roleplaying...killer."
Which it isn't.

So why is the R added? How is it different from a normal PK?
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  • FatherTed - Dreamweaver
    FatherTed - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,723 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I always thought it was for 'Random'.

    Like people who just randomly kill everyone they see?
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    stupid random term for KoSing everyone (kill on sight)
  • Rabid_Cleric - Harshlands
    Rabid_Cleric - Harshlands Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    RPK - Random Player Killing is ussualy used to refer ppl that pk white names, ppl for no appearent reason, people from faction...basically, they pk every single person, no matter what.

    Guilds often choose to avoid this kind of ppl to avoid guild conflicts and unwanted KoS, but when you r on a strong guild they usually allow it, unless they r too strick.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    PK = Player Killer/killing
    RPK = Random PK
    PKK = PK killer/killing
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    isn't PKK Player Killer Killer?
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  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It all boils down to killing people, no matter what fancy term you use.
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  • rikako
    rikako Posts: 340 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    b:angry rofl just call it pvp, and emo pvp (emo pvp = ppl that dont pvp anyone) b:laugh
  • Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear
    Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rabid_Cleric - Harshlands wrote: »
    RPK - Random Player Killing is ussualy used to refer ppl that pk white names, ppl for no appearent reason, people from faction...basically, they pk every single person, no matter what.

    So basically the R stands for RageNerdPK
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    So RPK is what every other game ever calls PK, and PK is what every other game ever calls plain old PVP?
  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    So RPK is what every other game ever calls PK, and PK is what every other game ever calls plain old PVP?

    Pretty much yeah.
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  • MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear
    MoonUsagi - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,377 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    isn't PKK Player Killer Killer?

    Agree b:surrender
    PKK :
    player kill a player > the killer become a PK > another player kill him > the killer become PKK
    Btw usually these names used to people that stop (kill) someone from PKing low lv or keep PKing certain people, then called as a hero. b:laugh
    And usually a part of "anti-PK" faction b:chuckle that focus on PKK naughty PKer.
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  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    you people have the terms oversimplified = FAIL

    PK = player killer, generally they kill whitenames to buffer their redname timer. they also will join mass pk at the normal pk hangouts (most of the server would fall under this category)

    PKK = player killer killer, they ONLY KILL rednamed players. end of story. you will NEVER see a pink/red named PKK, because PKK never kills whitenames. aka- carebears (technically)

    RPK = random player killer. the people who kills anyone anytime for any reason or no reason at all. they dont give a **** about anyone or anything, they kill because they want to, and **** if it offends anybody. aka- ragebears


    PK and RPK are intimately tied together, it is very easy to slip from one category to the other
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  • hemoglobin
    hemoglobin Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i rpk and now i have 75 hours >_<
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    hemoglobin wrote: »
    i rpk and now i have 75 hours >_<

    hmm
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  • Aeremay - Harshlands
    Aeremay - Harshlands Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    PK - PoKing
    RPK - Rapidly PoKing

    Iunno, I thought it looked funnier and snazzier that way. Teeeeeheee.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Alexenokin - Lost City wrote: »
    you people have the terms oversimplified = FAIL

    PK = player killer, generally they kill whitenames to buffer their redname timer. they also will join mass pk at the normal pk hangouts (most of the server would fall under this category)

    PKK = player killer killer, they ONLY KILL rednamed players. end of story. you will NEVER see a pink/red named PKK, because PKK never kills whitenames. aka- carebears (technically)

    RPK = random player killer. the people who kills anyone anytime for any reason or no reason at all. they dont give a **** about anyone or anything, they kill because they want to, and **** if it offends anybody. aka- ragebears


    PK and RPK are intimately tied together, it is very easy to slip from one category to the other

    Sorry, you fail. lol

    PKers can be any of the following, but aren't necessarily RPK or PKKers. They kill other players, could be KOS or people they just don't like.

    RPKers don't just target whitenames, they'll attack red names as well. RPK is random killing, often of people of lower level. You know, if you kill a redname that doesn't have dolls, you get drops, right? You think only whitename PKKers are interested in PK drops? lol

    PKKers can indeed be red. I guess you've never heard of KOS? PKKers aren't carebears, they're PKers, killing other players. They just don't usually random pk.

    KOS = Klill on Sight. They are people you are supposed to kill. That is not random.

    RPK and PKK aren't the same.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Sorry, you fail. lol

    PKers can be any of the following, but aren't necessarily RPK or PKKers. They kill other players, could be KOS or people they just don't like.

    He didn't say they were RPKers or PKKers, that's why, just what the category was.
    RPKers don't just target whitenames, they'll attack red names as well. RPK is random killing, often of people of lower level. You know, if you kill a redname that doesn't have dolls, you get drops, right? You think only whitename PKKers are interested in PK drops? lol

    Nothing he said about RPKers said that they target just whitenames...not sure where you got that from. Maybe you're mixing PK and RPK up?
    PKKers can indeed be red. I guess you've never heard of KOS? PKKers aren't carebears, they're PKers, killing other players. They just don't usually random pk.

    KOS = Klill on Sight. They are people you are supposed to kill. That is not random.

    Although I agree with PKKers not all being carebears, if they're killing KoS, that makes them not PKK, but just PKing.
    RPK and PKK aren't the same.

    He said PK and RPK, not PKK and RPK. o_O
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  • Alliptica - Raging Tide
    Alliptica - Raging Tide Posts: 1,545 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    you guys make this so confusing @_@ its all just pvp
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  • Airyll - Dreamweaver
    Airyll - Dreamweaver Posts: 2,882 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    PK = player killer

    RPK = random player killer

    PKK = player killer killer

    PK is a loose term encompassing all the forms of player killer. It is a generic term that you can slap onto any person you see in PK mode if you're on a PvE server, it's a loose term you can slap onto any people you know who PK on a PvP server. Both RPK and PKK is ultimately PK and the terms are all interchangeable with "PK" if you don't want to be specific about it.

    However, RPK and PKK are two completely different things.

    RPK is describing a player who will randomly kill other players at any time; this could range from somebody who has a "everybody is on my KoS list" rule to a "I will pick on people wearing blue fashion" rule to a "I've seen you on the forums!" rule.
    As the "random" part of the title insinuates, they will kill random people regardless of if they know them or not, at any random time, because they can.

    PKK is describing players who will target red names. Some of these people will specifically target those with blood red names and others will just target general red names from the light pink/red to blood red. They will not attack a white name.

    -edit-
    KoS = kill on sight
    This can be completely random too. You can add people to your KoS list for no reason then simply because you can. RPKers can have a KoS list too, you know? It's just completely random based on who they feel like killing at the time should they come across some random player that may fall into their sights.
    PKKers can also have a KoS list, and it is not random. It is selective. Kill players with a red name.

    Difference between the two and both kinds of PKers can have KoS lists.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    o_O

    Read his definition of PK. He is confusing PK with RPK. Look at his definition of PKK, he said PKK would never be pink or red and they are carebear. Carebear = 100% PvE. PKK is not PvE it's PvP. PKK is PK and can include KOS.

    Reread my post. I was mostly clarifying and expanding because he said people are oversimplifying things while not being completely accurate himself. >.>
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Read his definition of PK. He is confusing PK with RPK. Look at his definition of PKK, he said PKK would never be pink or red and they are carebear. Carebear = 100 PvE. PKK is not PvE it's PvP.

    Reread my post. I was mostly clarifying and expanding because he said people are oversimplifying things while not being completely accurate himself. >.>

    The definition of PK still seems pretty accurate to me. Especially with that "generally", makes it a very broad definition.

    You weren't expanding, you were redefining...expanding on his terms wouldn't start with "you fail", ijs.

    I guess in the end there's no 100% accurate definition on terms like these though. Just gotta go with what works for you b:chuckle
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    The definition of PK still seems pretty accurate to me. Especially with that "generally", makes it a very broad definition.

    You weren't expanding, you were redefining...expanding on his terms wouldn't start with "you fail", ijs.

    I guess in the end there's no 100% accurate definition on terms like these though. Just gotta go with what works for you b:chuckle

    *sigh*

    He started off with:
    you people have the terms oversimplified = FAIL

    If he is going to point the fail finger at people, he shouldn't fail himself. Eh?


    Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    PKK is describing players who will target red names. Some of these people will specifically target those with blood red names and others will just target general red names from the light pink/red to blood red. They will not attack a white name.

    I agree with everything you've said until this. PKK factions may have faction KOS and killing white name KOS would indeed be alright for them, and in some factions, required.

    There may also be other RPK factions that they are 'free to kill' but not required.

    -edit-
    KoS = kill on sight
    This can be completely random too. You can add people to your KoS list for no reason then simply because you can. RPKers can have a KoS list too, you know? It's just completely random based on who they feel like killing at the time should they come across some random player that may fall into their sights.
    PKKers can also have a KoS list, and it is not random. It is selective. Kill players with a red name.

    Difference between the two and both kinds of PKers can have KoS lists.

    There is also a difference between Faction KOS and Personal KOS. PKOS is indeed mostly used as an excuse to RPK. Most non-RPK factions do not allow PKOS. Some factions strongly urge, require or reward you to kill faction KOS. Some factions do not enforce KOS which just makes them 'free to kill' because if it's KOS you're supposed to kill them on sight, not if you feel like it or not.

    Many factions do allow 'free to kill' which means you are not obligated to kill them, but if you wish to you may, because they are most likely RPK factions will most likely kill you if they get the chance, regardless if they are white or red.
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    *sigh*

    He started off with:



    If he is going to point the fail finger at people, he shouldn't fail himself. Eh?

    The point was that, if you're agreeing you wouldn't be calling him fail. b:surrender
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Aadi - Lost City wrote: »
    The point was that, if you're agreeing you wouldn't be calling him fail. b:surrender

    I wasn't and in my post I corrected him as well as expanded on the terms, like I previously mentioned. b:sad
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  • Alexenokin - Lost City
    Alexenokin - Lost City Posts: 418 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    michael, you seem to have misread my post, and you also completely twisted alot of what i said

    the part about your response that irks me, is this idea you have that PKK will kill whitenames... you seem to completely miss the TRUE definition of a PKK


    tl;dr- please go do some research before making yourself look like an idiot b:bye



    EDIT: aadi is completely right, and understood my post perfectly

    EDIT 2: KoS is a completely different thing altogether, and doesnt mesh well with the "definitions" of these terms
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  • ElderSig - Dreamweaver
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,247 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sorry but I find it amusing for there to be 3 pages debating/argueing(?) over what the difference is between PKK and RPK. b:cute
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Alexenokin - Lost City wrote: »
    michael, you seem to have misread my post, and you also completely twisted alot of what i said

    the part about your response that irks me, is this idea you have that PKK will kill whitenames... you seem to completely miss the TRUE definition of a PKK

    Factionless PKK sure. PKK faction with KOS. Whitename is valid target. Don't agree? Whatever.

    ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sorry but I find it amusing for there to be 3 pages debating/argueing(?) over what the difference is between PKK and RPK. b:cute

    Yeah, I was actually loling about that when I typed my first post. It's not that difficult a concept.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ElderSig - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Sorry but I find it amusing for there to be 3 pages debating/argueing(?) over what the difference is between PKK and RPK. b:cute

    ^ This 100%



    Also...in terms of PKK -->

    There are PKK factions THAT WILL attack White names that are in a known RPK faction due to KOS. Ultimately, just because someone is white named does not mean that they do not rpk. You can RPK and remain white named after all.....
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