Newbie Cleric wants to solo AND squad. Skill suggestions, please?

Actually, you could leave Wellspring at lvl 1. On one hand, if you lvl it, it might be useful for restoring a lot of health to the tank when in squad and in case of emergencies. On the other hand, with a dead low mana cost and quick cast time, lvl 1 wellspring surge can be a nice source of chi. Will help when you're grinding/killing mobs for quests and you need chi for spark. ^^

Sylredrae - Sanctuary wrote: »

Actually, you could leave Wellspring at lvl 1. On one hand, if you lvl it, it might be useful for restoring a lot of health to the tank when in squad and in case of emergencies. On the other hand, with a dead low mana cost and quick cast time, lvl 1 wellspring surge can be a nice source of chi. Will help when you're grinding/killing mobs for quests and you need chi for spark. ^^

Once you get stream of rejuvination leveled, it's generally better for saving the tank as it can regen lots and lots of HP. I personally find wellspring better for keeping squishies from being squished so the tank can regain aggro.
EDIT: Blessing of the Purehearted gains quite a bit of chi as well, ijs

Sometimes, I just cast WoP and double spark ih on the tank. (Just looking for excuses to use my WoP cuz it's such an expensive skill)

Oh for the topic, Rose has covered pretty much everything but revive. Get at least 1 level of that and also 1 level of purify when you can get them. Leveling them is not a priority though but those skills are handy.

And imo, plume shell at lower level is either a waste of mana or waste of time(to cast). I personally did not use mine till much much later.

Zanryu - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Lol xD

I got Guardian's Light instead because it's much better in my eyes, I'll be getting WoP one of these days, when I'm not too busy in TT.

halving all damage, saved my **** in a gank a few days ago b:dirty

I haven't gotten Guardian's Light, but I love WoP. One of the best things about it is the fact that it doesn't aggro...so if, say, the barb doesn't catch the boss that the veno pulled, you can cast it on the veno and keep them from dying without having the boss on your own squishy tail. Or if the tank is AoEing and hasn't cast his AoE skill yet, you can cast it on him so he doesn't die without pulling the mobs b:chuckle

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

p shell is best cler survival skill x(

I agree but not plume shell lvl <10 lol
1 hit would take away all of your mana, leaving you helpless (no heals, no spells, melee them to death?) but maybe you can cast it and run b:shocked

Paramedic - Dreamweaver wrote: »

so better if 1 hit take all ur hp instead? b:nosebleed

I dont mind lol cuz you regain all your exp so fast. But you do have a point there.

Personal preference I guess.

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

I would lvl up Razor Feathers,Sirens Kiss,Metal Mastery and mostly all your attack skills for soloing.

Elven Wings lose 2 mp a sec that is why your Archer is losing mana.

uh the only attack skill you need to solo is plume shot o.O
sure increased def mobs are annoying but i haven't had any problems

plume shot
iron heart blessing
vanguard spirit
magic shell
Celestial guardian seal
Spirits gift

are the ones a cleric should max first regardless of what they plan to do imho, ijs

MystiMonk - Sanctuary wrote: »

This cleric wants to solo mobs and you forgot cyclone.

you can solo all mobs you need for your quests with just plume shot
and i didn't forget cyclone, i purposely left it out, i don't bother with it because of it's 3 second cool down, i find just holding done my plume shot button works just fine on increased defense mobs

yes, but he just wanted to point out that actually cleric can do fine without cyclone on lower lvls if he want save some sp

same with wield thunder -it s useful starter, but it is also expensive

Lusca - Sanctuary wrote: »

you can solo all mobs you need for your quests with just plume shot
and i didn't forget cyclone, i purposely left it out, i don't bother with it because of it's 3 second cool down, i find just holding done my plume shot button works just fine on increased defense mobs

Technically you can but its kinda silly since you have other skills that hit way harder, especially once your metal mastery is lvled up. Plume shot has its uses, such as increased mag resistance mobs, but its far from the most important attack skill.

Lylfo - Dreamweaver wrote: »

I also think you should not have left out cyclone, it allows a cleric to kite a mob and potentially not to get hit at all saving mp (because you do not need to heal). Also, it works better on wood mobs than plume shot and after metal mastery is maxed, the damage from cyclone is almost the same as the damage from plume shot. Cyclone also has a 1 sec cast time compared to plume shot's 1.5 sec cast time.

Yes you can kite with cyclone, I did it way back when PW-MY only just came out.
Yes it does save money on pots, but low level pots are not expensive at all. Killing mobs by kiting with cyclone takes much longer than killing mobs and using pots.

Yes with metal mastery cyclone out damages plume shot, but when I made that post I was suggesting that skills you should max first, not which skill is best when you can max out everything.

And yes plume shot does have a 1.5 second channel while cyclone only has a one second channel, but plume shot has a one second cool down and cyclone has a 3 second cool down. So either you alternate them or you just use plume shot.

Vivre - Harshlands wrote: »

Wield thunder is ok but not necessary.

Cyclone is necessary, in addition to plume shot. When I was much lower level with no funds, I pretty much did my quests like this: *cyclone, run, cyclone, run, cyclone...* and I'd rarely get hit. That still works versus more annoying mobs like celestial plumpfishes.

I don't think res costs very much =/ You should keep it leveled.

Ironheart is your primary heal. Stream of rejuv is hella expensive but is much stronger than IH if you stack rejuvies instead of IH<-- but in most cases, an IH stack is good enough.

Level up purify as necessary. Lvl 1 is good enough vs mobs (unless you're solo aoeing poisons-- but that's for higher lvls). Lvl 5 or so is good until your 8xs. But I personally have mine at lvl 10 and the 3 second cooldown is still too long imo x]

I have made a couple of clerics now and I didn't fund any of them with my other characters, My avatar is my current main I'm leveling on a new server so I started with no cash and i very rarely buy gold. The only thing I have brought for my cleric so far is his fashion because arcane armor looks lame imo.
Anyway, none of them have had any cash problems. The only one of my clerics to use cyclone to kite was on the PW-MY and the money saved was basically nothing compared to how much longer leveling took.
My other clerics have all used pots and plume shot to level and none of them have had any major cash problems.

Ress my not cost that much, but have you played a 4x cleric lately? you have some serious spirit problems.
My 53 cleric has
Plume shot ~ level 10
Cyclone ~ level 7
Wellspring surge ~ level 5
Purify ~ level 5
Revive ~ level 5
Vanguard spirit ~ level 10
Magic shell ~ level 10
Celestial guardian seal ~ level 6
Spirits gift ~ level 9
~All the following are level 1
Greater protective aura
Aegis spirit
Blessing of the pure hearted
Chromatic healing beam
Stream of rejuvenation
Razor feathers
Thunder ball

I have only recently leveled ress, well spring and purify and I only had the spirit to get them to where they are by not leveling cyclone and CGS.
Yes I know I said to level CGS before the others but I felt like trying something different, and having level 5 wellspring, ress and purify compared to max CGS is not that much better. I guess that part is just personal preference.

Yes stream is useful, but it's spirit cost is really expensive. I know this is getting repetitive but you just don't have enough spirit at lower levels. I have level one stream and I will level it when my cleric is higher, but for now my cleric simple doesn't have enough spirit.

I do agree with most of what you said about purify.

LifeAfterDth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Technically you can but its kinda silly since you have other skills that hit way harder, especially once your metal mastery is lvled up. Plume shot has its uses, such as increased mag resistance mobs, but its far from the most important attack skill.

I really have to partly disagree with you here, yes later on plume shot loses it's usefulness.

But as you start out plume shot IS the most important attack skill.
Well you can use cyclone to kite mobs it is not time efficient. Thunder ball is ****, everyone knows that. You don't get wield thunder until 44, so at 44 you can use cyclone thunder cyclone on mobs.

But until you level metal mastery plume shot is just as good as cyclone and if you level wield thunder and metal mastery, your going to struggle to even keep vanguard, magic shell, spirits gift and iron heart up to date.


lol sorry about the wall of text, I got a little carried away =x
but basically my point is while at higher levels your other attack skills do start to shine,but at lower levels you simple do not need to spend spirit on them and imho plume shot works just fine and that spirit your not spending on other attack skills is much better used on your buffs, heals, purify or ress.

But of course this is only my opinion and if people want to spend spirit on their attack skills and leave their heals or buffs for later, well they are more than welcome to do that. I will not tell someone they HAVE to play a certain way, I just believe leveling plume shot, iron heart and your buffs works much better than leveling your other attack skills.