the oracle noobs have penetrated the general population

Vinat - Sanctuary
Vinat - Sanctuary Posts: 1,200 Arc User
edited February 2010 in General Discussion
it became crystal clear to me today. i wont name names, but over several tt runs, and a few frosts, it's really become clear that there are more and more people who have no idea how to play their class, and all theyre really capable of is wasting everybodys time, charms, angels, and patience.

it's a sad, sad thing.
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  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Old news. :p
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    yep....that be old news.
    b:surrender
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  • kanel321
    kanel321 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    3 BH per day
    12X XP/Spirit hyper stones

    who still uses oracles ?
  • AinaMizuako - Sanctuary
    AinaMizuako - Sanctuary Posts: 1,041 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    kanel321 wrote: »
    3 BH per day
    12X XP/Spirit hyper stones

    who still uses oracles ?

    Why go through the hassle of grinding and finding a squad for BH when you can just camp oracles all day?

    You're likely to get kicked from BH once the people realize that you can't do anything productive and are a barb with swords. b:bye
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  • PequetteV - Lost City
    PequetteV - Lost City Posts: 1,202 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lol wait hyper exp stone user will reach it faster then people that oracle b:laugh
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  • Vinat - Sanctuary
    Vinat - Sanctuary Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    sorry i should have been more clear.. they've entered the high lvl general population. idk how long they've been polluting the noob population. but yea im only just noticing them trying to get in on activities that high 90s like to do.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    they will be gone soon enough.
    or they will learn.
    either way we just has to deal with it temporarily.
    b:surrender
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • kanel321
    kanel321 Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    PequetteV - Lost City wrote: »
    lol wait hyper exp stone user will reach it faster then people that oracle b:laugh
    Do hyper stones to you reach cap + do oracles while you wait for cool down for 2 months = standing next to pequette V in TW with 2 months total playing time !

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  • Vinat - Sanctuary
    Vinat - Sanctuary Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    they will be gone soon enough.
    or they will learn.
    either way we just has to deal with it temporarily.
    b:surrender

    i really dont know about that. i mean i try to teach people who i know are new, but these ppl i ran tt with.. they just wont listen. i explained the basic strategy most squads use for whatever, and theyre like no, do it this way. then 2 mins later when theyre all laying there dead and im struggling to juggle a bunch of things and not die, one of the dead ppl starts cursing out the 3 clerics and then they all say "sorry, we're not that exp", at which point i said, "THIS is why i said DO IT THIS OTHER WAY". they just said "lol".
  • CyanideX - Lost City
    CyanideX - Lost City Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ONE WAY TO FIX THIS!!!

    Combine the 6 servers into 2 (one east one west)

    Then make 4 new servers!!!! and **** off oracles!!!

    I hate them, why were they put in the game? >_> hyper EXO isnt a very good idea either, what happened to the days where people used to work work their good characters?
  • The_aggonist - Sanctuary
    The_aggonist - Sanctuary Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Agreed i've seen to many oracler's that dnt know their class when some of us have spent the time and the skill for our lvls and way to play this game b:angry
  • _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,458 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lol they wont be noobs for very long( if they play enough you can learn how to play a class quite well in a few weeks)b:bye
    just get over it and be happy that there are new people to pkb:dirtyb:bye
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  • Vinat - Sanctuary
    Vinat - Sanctuary Posts: 1,200 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    lol they wont be noobs for very long( if they play enough you can learn how to play a class quite well in a few weeks)b:bye
    just get over it and be happy that there are new people to pkb:dirtyb:bye

    sanctuary is pve
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ._.'
    it be a human created game...
    teh basics takes about 2 minutes to learn and 10 minutes to master....
    the rest of the time be spent fine tuning...
    -.-'

    well as me said, they is going to either learn or leave.
    b:bye
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • BloodFire - Harshlands
    BloodFire - Harshlands Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The ways to fix this.

    - Kick them out of your party and explain why you are doing it.
    - Take some time and try to teach them their class.
    - Walk away and take a deep breath. Then think is getting this done worth having a dangerous player inside of the party.

    Yep. We have people who lean too much on fast lvling. But we were all at the starting point at one time. It's easy to get frustrated but look at the bright side.

    Some of these people are new comers who had the misconception of wanting to quickly catch up. New players to the game and sever is a good thing in the over all viewpoint of things.
  • Roseary - Sanctuary
    Roseary - Sanctuary Posts: 978 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    sanctuary is pve

    Look foward to seeing me in the near future. I am still new to the game(few weeks) but I know how to learn my class. It's really just common sense, see your strengths and weaknesses and work with them. Oracles are a waste in my opinion, grinding is where the real experience is. Not level up experience but play experience.
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  • _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,458 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    sanctuary is pve

    so there be absolutely no pk there? how horribleb:scornb:bye
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  • PequetteV - Lost City
    PequetteV - Lost City Posts: 1,202 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    sanctuary is pve
    _Surreal_ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    so there be absolutely no pk there? how horribleb:scornb:bye


    pve is good until u reach lv 85+ and get bored grinding mob to level up :S
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  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I love oracles and hyper exp stones. It means I can kill people 30 lvls higher than me. And then listen to them QQ about why they couldnt attack me when they tried clicking they're skills. (People who don't know about the ctrl button ftw?)

    PS:Hasn't happened yet, but it's only a matter of time......
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  • Motoko - Raging Tide
    Motoko - Raging Tide Posts: 250 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    kanel321 wrote: »
    Do hyper stones to you reach cap + do oracles while you wait for cool down for 2 months = standing next to pequette V in TW with 2 months total playing time !

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    95 in <2 months b:laugh Could probably hit 100 in another week, but time to farm TT90 gear b:shocked
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  • Ence - Lost City
    Ence - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Oddly I've found that the best way to use Hyper at my level is NOT to straight up grind, but rather, do multiple Frost runs. (Pausing and such, 20 min used per run in my case, 35-45% per run as a result, whereas party grinding results in about 40-50% over 1 hr...)

    So guess what? If you're noob, people don't want you for their Frost parties b:bye

    IMO a much, much better solution than Oracle noobs.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ence - Lost City wrote: »
    Oddly I've found that the best way to use Hyper at my level is NOT to straight up grind, but rather, do multiple Frost runs. (Pausing and such, 20 min used per run in my case, 35-45% per run as a result, whereas party grinding results in about 40-50% over 1 hr...)

    Indeed, the best way to use them, from what I've heard... is to turn on hyperxp in a few specific areas. The areas where you gather and zhen get you the most xp... most people leave it off for the bosses. I haven't done frost in months, but if I want or ever decide to hyperxp, it'll be in 3rd map where I can get 12-14m xp per hour.
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  • Isala - Sanctuary
    Isala - Sanctuary Posts: 1,607 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Indeed, the best way to use them, from what I've heard... is to turn on hyperxp in a few specific areas. The areas where you gather and zhen get you the most xp... most people leave it off for the bosses. I haven't done frost in months, but if I want or ever decide to hyperxp, it'll be in 3rd map where I can get 12-14m xp per hour.

    Best place I've found in Frost is that room with the hand spawning boss. Gather the ENTIRE room, and pop it on for a minute. I was getting 15% instantly. b:victory Of course... That assumes your party isn't made up of complete morons... I had a barb so afraid to grab anything, he wouldn't take more than 5 mobs at once... The run took 4 hours... Of course, virgin wizard, BM that doesn't understand stuns, and stoned archer didn't help that matter much either... I have to give props to the cleric, though. They tried their damnest to keep everything running smooth. Of course, most of her time was spent ressing people when the BM decided to try to pull, and the barb failed to get aggro on anything. b:angry Damned Oracle noobs... GTFO my server.
  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm only going to use hyper stones when they let you get 12x exp on quests. I'll be doing like 10 levels a day on bhs alone.
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  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Best place I've found in Frost is that room with the hand spawning boss. Gather the ENTIRE room, and pop it on for a minute. I was getting 15% instantly. b:victory Of course... That assumes your party isn't made up of complete morons... I had a barb so afraid to grab anything, he wouldn't take more than 5 mobs at once... The run took 4 hours... Of course, virgin wizard, BM that doesn't understand stuns, and stoned archer didn't help that matter much either... I have to give props to the cleric, though. They tried their damnest to keep everything running smooth. Of course, most of her time was spent ressing people when the BM decided to try to pull, and the barb failed to get aggro on anything. b:angry Damned Oracle noobs... GTFO my server.

    Yeah, that's the best room for exp... and you need a pretty strong and skilled team to pull that WHOLE room at once. Most squads who have done frost seem to do it in 2 or 3 pulls. Fantastic xp from what I hear.

    lol Barb afraid to gather. just... lol.
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    it became crystal clear to me today. i wont name names, but over several tt runs, and a few frosts, it's really become clear that there are more and more people who have no idea how to play their class, and all theyre really capable of is wasting everybodys time, charms, angels, and patience.

    it's a sad, sad thing.
    Did you just now start paying attention? Before oracles became this popular there were countless idiots getting to high levels who couldn't hang in instances like FF or TT or play their class worth a ****. It's highly convenient and lazy to blame oracles for that.
  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Did you just now start paying attention? Before oracles became this popular there were countless idiots getting to high levels who couldn't hang in instances like FF or TT or play their class worth a ****. It's highly convenient and lazy to blame oracles for that.
    But suddenly there are a ton of high levels who can't play their class. Most could before, now the majority can't.
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  • Ence - Lost City
    Ence - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Maybe it's a phenomenon on servers other than Lost City o__o;;

    To be honest I read all this and fail to see what's wrong.

    Any TB that's hit 85+ is most likely an oracle noob...whether hybrid (did it some of the time) or full (did it all of the time).

    Yet, I have had them in parties for BH, FF, FB, Bosses, and for the most part been okay. Most learn after dying a few times and often it's their first (or second) time in such instances.

    To be honest though, most will listen to my instructions in instance and I've seen them follow other's instructions. Those that fail to obey obviously die. But, I have not seen any be consistent fail.

    Now, oddly as counter example I did run a BH with the most fail Barb I've ever had the privilege(?) of running with. And he had been playing since the start of Open Beta. Now that's just sad b:shocked
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  • JanusZeal - Heavens Tear
    JanusZeal - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,852 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City wrote: »
    But suddenly there are a ton of high levels who can't play their class. Most could before, now the majority can't.
    Naturally, levels will get higher, so with more people simply getting to high levels, there will be more of what existed before, which is plenty of idiots who can't play their class. One could blame oracles for this as much as they could bounty hunters, crazy stone, grinding, FF, whatever. And people certainly do, which is why they deserve to be laughed at for such a gross exaggeration and puritanical attitude surrounding oracles.
  • TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide
    TheMagicPimp - Raging Tide Posts: 1,946 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    So what , just let them oracle to high lvl , do some fail pvp vs other fail oracle high lvls , get bored and then quit b:bye.

    I for one actually enjoy going through low-mid lvls & hell...sometimes I don't even do all 3 BHs daily . This way I get to practice allot of combos on different mobs or bosses which I'm sure will help later on b:sin .
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