Just a little question

Consider you only have -0.05 intervals, I'd go with swords.

Shinsen - Lost City wrote: »

Let's say you such gear, which weapon would you choose for pvp purposes only (Demon BM):

Sorry for not even looking but the answer is simple. Restat to dex build for fists.

Fists for single targets/bosses. Axe for dragons and multiple targets/AoE.

A fist/claw BM with -int gear brutally **** in PvE. So much that I restat dex so I could use CV Claw / HH100 Fists so I could be of use in Nirvana.

It's really that simple.

Shinsen - Lost City wrote: »

Um i have -0.15 interval, not -0.05. -0.1 from wrists and -0.05 from hh99 armor set (when having 2 set items)

My bad, didn't see it clearly. You could get Ashura's ornaments for extra -ints to help fists. Without a lot of -int such as from weapon and tome/cape, it won't be easy to PvP with fists without the help of Occult Ice.

Pretty much all the 100+ BMs I see split their TT99 either through armor pieces or ornaments. This maybe because they can afford other -int gears. If you are not getting other -int gears, I can't really speculate whether 3% crit or -0.05 int would help you more b:surrender. *Waits for math from Telarith*

Divine_Death - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Pretty much all the 100+ BMs I see split their TT99 either through armor pieces or ornaments. This maybe because they can afford other -int gears. If you are not getting other -int gears, I can't really speculate whether 3% crit or -0.05 int would help you more b:surrender. *Waits for math from Telarith*

3% crit works out to 3% extra damage over time, which on bosses can be considerable. Even with just one -.05 interval anywhere and wielding fists, you automatically deal 7.7% extra damage without even counting the extra chi gain. The crit is more useful in PvP, where you hope for lucky continuous crits to spike some damage in. But without a high amount of -interval, auto-attacking with fists will put severe limits on who you can and can't kill.

So either way, crit is not going to be as useful as even beginning -interval adds. And when you consider each consecutive -interval increases damage more and more, there is never a time crit will out-weigh interval reduction gear for average damage in PvE. And if PvP'ing with fists, you would need a high amount of -interval (3.33 APS+, with weapon swapping), you will likely have to choose interval again over crit to ensure the crit you already have is at max efficiency. Plus with 3 pieces of HA TT99 gold, you can recast the pants for an extra -.05 interval added on; giving your armor adds alone a total of -.25 interval in the end.

Best set-up for DPS fists is looking to be:

Lunarglade Cape: Energetic
Tome Love Up and Down or Life Everlasting (fingers crossed since 2008 b:chuckle)
Nirvana/Gorenox/Deicide (depends on what all gear you have, and refines)
TT99 Gold Boots and Wrists
TT99 Gold Belt and Chest
Nirvana leggings
Cube Elemental Necklace (G14, 15, or 16 preferred)

Gives you high amount of phys def, with a necklace that can have a large mag def refine thanks to its grade while keeping the 5% max health boost. Already made a post in Drunken Chu's guide about why Gorenox is often better than Deicide, everything else is mostly self-explanatory.

PS: Oh yeah, formula for finding effect of -interval on damage % is to take the new APS minus the old APS (in this case 1.54 - 1.43 with base fists getting -.05 interval). Divide that by the value before the boost to find % increase in damage (.11 / 1.43 = 7.69%) That is how much extra damage those extra attacks equal out to.

Filet - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Probably not then. Only go for fists (PvP-wise) if you can get at least -.2 interval i'd say. Also Telarith your endgame gear is so expensive, there are probably only a handful of people on my entire server that could afford that as a bm.

The 4 APS would only be really useful when not primary tank, other than that it would be no different when soloing bosses. It does allow non-sparked 5 APS with Cyclone though, which is nice for chi gaining for heaven's/glacial.

Also, much of the gear I'm planning on farming myself, such as the leggings and the cube necklace: cube will give me something to do for the next 9+ months I suppose. Lunar rings I am unsure of whether I will eventually buy those or farm them, will depend on how the lunar valley changes wil affect that instance

Now that I'm more awake, might as well expand a bit more on it.

At lvl 100+, it's pretty much Nirvana/TT farming, and grinding in 3rd map from what everyone's said. This is where money is made, and farming is done for final end game gear.

So while the list may seem expensive, think of it this way: every piece of TT99 gold is saved money from not reforging gear. We need the benefit of them, and so won't be going final form on armor, which saves a large amount of money when we sell the crystals to other people.

4 APS is better than 3.33 APS in we now have more weaponry options available to us. Before, it was either Deicide or TT100 claws/fists to get 5 APS. Now, we can use even -.05 interval claws to reach 5 APS demon sparked. And since Deicide's proc sucks on bosses after its first proc, it won't be my main grinding weapon of choice. Revenge has a very nice ability for healing and extra damage, and Advanced Revenge has a good chance of turning out to be a real benefit as well. So with all those armor items, more damaging/useful procs can be used, rather than being stuck with a one time shot.

Also, for any who went sage before Nirvana came out, they can now get back in contention with higher base APS. They will need Deicide/TT100, but now they can start working towards 5 APS without having demon spark.

So a couple uses that are there, and the reason I'm planning on that route.