Blademaster in TW

XDream - Harshlands
XDream - Harshlands Posts: 9 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Blademaster
looking for some info about BMs in TW and what is thier role/job if anyone know a link or post your own opinion thank you
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  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    http://zoome.jp/gattun/movie_list
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    stun enemy catas, stun groups of people, dragon large groups of people or heavy cash shoppers or cata's, buff party members
  • Kupuntu - Sanctuary
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary Posts: 3,008 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    BMs role? Simple. Scream LEEEROOOOYYY JEEEEENKIINS!, run around and try not to get oneshotted by archers. b:bye
    100% F2P player. Started PW: March 2007, Quit PW: March 2011.
    pwcalc.com/e7016929e7b204ae "Pure axe" 8k HP multipath BM, last one of my kind.
  • Dreaded_Fate - Lost City
    Dreaded_Fate - Lost City Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kupuntu - Sanctuary wrote: »
    BMs role? Simple. Scream LEEEROOOOYYY JEEEEENKIINS!, run around and try not to get oneshotted by archers. b:bye
    archers lol.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAOxY_nHdew
    [EvilMarlon - Sanctuary] It would be nice to be a male veno i tryed a veno and my dad saw me and he thought i was **** it took me a whole month for him to even talk to me again. <-- LMAO b:chuckle
  • wtvdie
    wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    stun enemy catas, stun groups of people, dragon large groups of people or heavy cash shoppers or cata's, buff party members

    im gonna have to say glacial spike is better in pvp than heaven's flame. why?

    double dmg is great and all, assuming u have it demon it last for 10 seconds, otherwise 6.

    glacial spike cuts armor in half. last 10 seconds regardless.

    double dmg vs half armor. half armor is more devastating.

    proof? gaurnob and polearm is an example, but try it against another players, ull see.
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    no....

    GS dosent affect buffs only base

    diminishing returns mean that 1/2 of armor =/= 1/2 resists

    pole and nob 100% amp and fully reduce resists a bm can manage the amp and break comes from mire + GS

    only time i really use GS is when my HF is in cool down or as a

    GS+mire>spark pot>HF combo on the double wave in RB or on really long bosses with no risk of aggro rip (basicly in tt with a 8x barb)

    otherwise HF is better by far
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Filet - Heavens Tear
    Filet - Heavens Tear Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    wtvdie wrote: »
    im gonna have to say glacial spike is better in pvp than heaven's flame. why?

    double dmg is great and all, assuming u have it demon it last for 10 seconds, otherwise 6.

    glacial spike cuts armor in half. last 10 seconds regardless.

    double dmg vs half armor. half armor is more devastating.

    proof? gaurnob and polearm is an example, but try it against another players, ull see.

    Double damage vs. half armor, double damage is far more devastating. It's not like HF and GS are so rare to get, most bms have tried both out and the simple fact is that double damage lets you do more damage than halving their armour.
  • Seablue - Sanctuary
    Seablue - Sanctuary Posts: 261 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    wtvdie wrote: »
    im gonna have to say glacial spike is better in pvp than heaven's flame. why?

    double dmg is great and all, assuming u have it demon it last for 10 seconds, otherwise 6.

    glacial spike cuts armor in half. last 10 seconds regardless.

    double dmg vs half armor. half armor is more devastating.

    proof? gaurnob and polearm is an example, but try it against another players, ull see.

    Bad example.

    Polearm drops your defense more than -50%. It's more like -200%

    Under demon marrow, effect of demon bell and cleric buff I have 26k~27k pdef (75+75+150+60=+360%). After pole debuffed me I got 14~15k pdef.

    Assuming that pole debuffs me 200%, I'd been left with 160% boost in pdef. 160% with my gear is 15.8k pdef. So yeah pretty close

    We can see that pole's debuff is about -200% pdef.

    Now if we use dragon on someone with 26k pdef (87% resistance, so 13% taken), they take 26% damage total.

    If we use glacial on 26k pdef (87% resistance, so 13% taken), their pdef drops down to 23.7k(86% resist), they take 14% damage.

    Even someone with only 50% resist (50% taken), glacial only drops them down to ~39%(61% taken). Under the same condition dragon can do 100%.

    Even if glacial can drop def to 0 from say 10% resist (90% damage taken), ppl will only take full 100% damage. Dragon however can let ppl take 180% damage (90% taken before)
  • dekciw
    dekciw Posts: 954 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
    stun enemy catas, stun groups of people, dragon large groups of people or heavy cash shoppers or cata's, buff party members

    ^this

    I'd add, focus mages/clerics if you can, drain WRs chi if you're hell.

    Call targets/assist also.
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  • CuteLilDemon - Lost City
    CuteLilDemon - Lost City Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    BM kinda sux in TW QQ
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    CuteLilDemon - Lost City wrote: »
    BM kinda sux in TW QQ

    No.
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  • Devoted - Lost City
    Devoted - Lost City Posts: 3,634 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    bm's before flying were the best class for tw, i still think they are along side mages.

    only reason spectral puts up a fight is because they have 81/80 warriors in tw.. 6 second aoe stun in a small battlefield is op. for both attacking and defending, where as mages are more suited for defense.
  • Divine_Death - Dreamweaver
    Divine_Death - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,491 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Did someone say "stun"? *wakes up*
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    "Closing this for excess letter Q's" - hawk
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    CuteLilDemon - Lost City wrote: »
    BM kinda sux in TW QQ

    but i like it when my pretty blue dragon hits the pretty red dragon Q.Q
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • Rockstare - Heavens Tear
    Rockstare - Heavens Tear Posts: 28 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    but i like it when my pretty blue dragon hits the pretty red dragon Q.Q

    yea, thats pretty much all u can do when sneaking behind a bm.

    try it otherway around and see how long u live...

    and no, i don't need any QQ HA wiz with imba gear blablaablaa this and that here ty
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rockstare - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    yea, thats pretty much all u can do when sneaking behind a bm.

    try it otherway around and see how long u live...

    and no, i don't need any QQ HA wiz with imba gear blablaablaa this and that here ty

    o.O

    i like BMs personally, they save my life with their stuns of godliness!

    and they give me sexy damage :3
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
  • LegendofLove - Lost City
    LegendofLove - Lost City Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    BM can only help their guildies if they kno wat to do in TW
    like prepare chi pots, anti-stun pots, charm n all of those thingies
    But NOT every BM is willing to buy or make those stuffs that could protect themselves
    BM cant live w/out those stuffs, which mean they cant survive in TW, so u gotta prepare urself, pvp as practice for TW, it helps lil bit
    well thatz wat i think
  • CuteLilDemon - Lost City
    CuteLilDemon - Lost City Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thats y i said KINDA, becuz BM is the one that need to run out of the base first, meet their enemies n take all dmg first...**** charms like crazy
    yup BM needs to stay alive first to able to finish off their jobs...pvp is a good way to practice for TW
  • Asperitas - Lost City
    Asperitas - Lost City Posts: 907 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    CuteLilDemon - Lost City wrote: »
    thats y i said KINDA, becuz BM is the one that need to run out of the base first, meet their enemies n take all dmg first...**** charms like crazy
    yup BM needs to stay alive first to able to finish off their jobs...pvp is a good way to practice for TW

    No, not even kinda.
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  • Filet - Heavens Tear
    Filet - Heavens Tear Posts: 414 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rockstare - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    yea, thats pretty much all u can do when sneaking behind a bm.

    try it otherway around and see how long u live...

    and no, i don't need any QQ HA wiz with imba gear blablaablaa this and that here ty

    lol rock we tw together, you haven't met any wiz that 1shot you? XD
  • Venue - Lost City
    Venue - Lost City Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    anyone said spam roar and fissure yet b:question
  • Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
    Mizuoni - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,533 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    no

    Roar > HF > wizards BIDS > BM bramble rages if anything is left
    Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
    Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
    ...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
    Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
    So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze

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