Glaives of Divinity or Yaksa

Elixxia - Sanctuary
Elixxia - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Cleric
As im getting near to level 80 I was wondering which one would be better for me to get. I have a few questions. Sorry if there is another thread on this but I couldnt find any :/

Does anyone know any pros or cons on them?
Which one do you have/had/plan on getting?
Which one would do more damage and heal better?
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  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    post stats? =3
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  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Get Endless Ambiguity.

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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    For cleric, I would say endless ambiguity. For veno/wizard, Yaksa. Dont know about the psychics.
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  • Elixxia - Sanctuary
    Elixxia - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    post stats? =3
    Yaksa's stats are:
    Mag Attack 673-822
    Physical Defense +216
    Mag +12~13
    Probability of Critical +1%

    Glaives of Divinity is:
    Mag Attack 591-887
    Maximum Magic Attack +94
    MP +235
    Magic +8
  • Elixxia - Sanctuary
    Elixxia - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hmm I wonder why everyone likes Endless Ambiguity.
  • Vivre - Harshlands
    Vivre - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    <-- LA cleric, went Yaksa. (Couldn't live without the +phy def that I got used to with my old saky)
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  • Ahira - Lost City
    Ahira - Lost City Posts: 791 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I used Yaksa- one of my fav weapons!
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  • Loarvion - Dreamweaver
    Loarvion - Dreamweaver Posts: 220 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    endless has chan wich is more usefull for healing and more hp wich helps survioverabilty
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  • Elixxia - Sanctuary
    Elixxia - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    endless has chan wich is more usefull for healing and more hp wich helps survioverabilty
    The channeling....yeah that is a good point. I bet I could heal faster with it :3
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    @channeling
    no, it s bad point - it s like buying one single ring with +crit and being happy that u went from 2% to 3% in total stat..

    unless u interested in getting other -channel gear, u shudnt rly care if weapon has that bonus or not

    lets say u are 50vit cler with 331 mag points at 80

    from unrefined yaksa/divinity u will get that:
    (unbuffed mag base stat)

    yaksa, something like 3780-4500

    divinity, 3380-5050


    serious con of galvies of divinity is that they have 'max mag attack' instead of 'mag attack' add, so ur averange heal will be almost same on both
    so with some p. def yaksa may be better option

    anyway, i wud choose green wheel if i wud be u (3760-4970). but that jsut personal preference xF


    i know numbers seems low but those are unrefined, unsharded weapons and stat isnt buffed (i considered some magic rings tho)

    in 'reality' those numbers wud be 1-2k higher
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  • MystiMonk - Sanctuary
    MystiMonk - Sanctuary Posts: 4,286 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It all depends on what you are going to be doing more supportive or a combo.I would use the glaive if being more supportive and sword for combo.
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  • Slarti - Dreamweaver
    Slarti - Dreamweaver Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Reasoning for Endless Ambiguity for cleric weapon:

    1) HP bonus. HP>Pdef for clerics.
    The phys def bonus on Yaska will cut incoming damage from physical attacks (from mobs your level) by about 2%, which is nice, but only helps against physical damage.
    *cough* Plume Shell *cough*

    2) Healing.
    Channeling gives you faster heals, every little bit helps. Stack it with Sleeves of Sea Captain for -9%... which is fairly significant.

    3) The future.
    Glaives of Divinity is a mold weapon, it has no future.
    Yaska becomes a level 90 sword with an evasion bonus... eeeww... Then a level 99 with a nice magic and crit bonus but no HP of Phys defense.
    Endless Ambiguity becomes a level 90 sword with channeling, magic and vitality bonuses... yummy... and a CHOICE of level 99 weapons with channeling, HP, vit, phys def, and magic bonuses available...

    All that aside, the Glaive and Yaska are both very nice weapons. More suited to DD than support, but very nice...
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Reasoning for Endless Ambiguity for cleric weapon:

    1) HP bonus. HP>Pdef for clerics.
    The phys def bonus on Yaska will cut incoming damage from physical attacks (from mobs your level) by about 2%, which is nice, but only helps against physical damage.
    *cough* Plume Shell *cough*
    u never know when hp>pdef or p.def>hp unless u count it in ur own case- from ur own stats
    im too lazy to do that, but it wudnt be hard to check it and decide which hp/p.def add wud help more at specific 'point'. it is kinda obvious that f.e. if u vit cler and have 4hp on 80lvl already, then adding 100hp more wont give u so much, like adding 200 p.def if u have that stat crappy.
    2) Healing.
    Channeling gives you faster heals, every little bit helps. Stack it with Sleeves of Sea Captain for -9%... which is fairly significant.
    why?
    and even if - what wud be difference between -6% and -9%?
    how much -9% help anyway?

    im not against channeling but it is like +crit - low values doesnt matter. it s some bonus, but not factor
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  • Vivre - Harshlands
    Vivre - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Just pick the one that matches with your fashion best b:pleased
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  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Just pick the one that matches with your fashion best b:pleased
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  • Elixxia - Sanctuary
    Elixxia - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Just pick the one that matches with your fashion best b:pleased
    lmao. I think the Yaksa would :O
  • Paramedic - Dreamweaver
    Paramedic - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,801 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lol, **** what i wrote
    Just pick the one that matches with your fashion best b:pleased
    ^this
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  • Miasora - Lost City
    Miasora - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Reasoning for Endless Ambiguity for cleric weapon:

    1) HP bonus. HP>Pdef for clerics.
    The phys def bonus on Yaska will cut incoming damage from physical attacks (from mobs your level) by about 2%, which is nice, but only helps against physical damage.
    *cough* Plume Shell *cough*

    2) Healing.
    Channeling gives you faster heals, every little bit helps. Stack it with Sleeves of Sea Captain for -9%... which is fairly significant.

    3) The future.
    Glaives of Divinity is a mold weapon, it has no future.
    Yaska becomes a level 90 sword with an evasion bonus... eeeww... Then a level 99 with a nice magic and crit bonus but no HP of Phys defense.
    Endless Ambiguity becomes a level 90 sword with channeling, magic and vitality bonuses... yummy... and a CHOICE of level 99 weapons with channeling, HP, vit, phys def, and magic bonuses available...

    All that aside, the Glaive and Yaska are both very nice weapons. More suited to DD than support, but very nice...

    OMG, thank you very much for the info. I just hit 80 and I were going to get Yaksa myself, because of its phys def+ (just as my Sakyamuni Light has). But after reading this thread, I guess Endless Ambiguity is my only choice as a support cleric ^.^

    Yay, it's time to farm b:victory

    Once again, thanks :)
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  • Rillien - Heavens Tear
    Rillien - Heavens Tear Posts: 569 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    OMG, thank you very much for the info. I just hit 80 and I were going to get Yaksa myself, because of its phys def+ (just as my Sakyamuni Light has). But after reading this thread, I guess Endless Ambiguity is my only choice as a support cleric ^.^

    Yay, it's time to farm b:victory

    Once again, thanks :)

    Endless isn't your only choice, really. It's a great wep for support, but Yaksa is also really nice too. If you are a vit cleric, +pdef might help out a bit more than +hp. Endless is the most common choice, but I've seen people do just as well with all the other TT80s/molds.
  • Lylfo - Dreamweaver
    Lylfo - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,166 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    For level 80, you should look ahead to the tt90s (or mold, fc and lunar) and consider them too like what the above people have said.

    Personally, I went with the acalanatha wand : sunflame because it gives good mag and hp. Paramedic is right when he said what's 3% channeling compared to 9% channeling, thats like comparing 3% crit and 5% crit.

    My tt90 plan is either the wheel of denied fate or requiem blade because
    1. to make the tt90(wraith conqueror) after endless ambiguity, the dust of devil in my server costs 1mil+. It'll be cheaper to sell it and get other weapons(refined and sharded)

    2. i dont find the other tt90 worth making other than wraith conqueror.

    3. I would like to focus more on getting tt90 gears and not throw all my coins on the weapon.

    Also, cons for yaksa
    1. most mob >lvl70 are magic based. Physical defence does not matter that much, stacking hp would be more beneficial.
    2. 1% crit, you cannot crit on heals. It won't help much as a support cleric.
    Besides, at lvl80, they normally judge clerics based on level and hp.(to get into those TTs and gammas)

    If you are rich(or lucky) enough, there are fc and lunar weapon to consider too.
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  • Miasora - Lost City
    Miasora - Lost City Posts: 167 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Well, while I'm still gathering HH80 mats for Endless Ambiguity, I just bought me a Glaives of Divinity... since it was very cheap xD

    --> http://i50.tinypic.com/2lt37dl.jpg

    This way, my Legendary Weapons Collection is continued (Mirage > WoF > Sakya > and now GoD) ^.^

    Btw, that Wraith Conqueror is cool indeed. So I guess, I have to works harder to get that Endless Ambiguity... I just wonder how many HH run should I do. Done 3 so far and get only 1 Ape's Tooth, 2 Frenzy's Claws and some Klunkies -_-
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  • Slarti - Dreamweaver
    Slarti - Dreamweaver Posts: 47 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I just wonder how many HH run should I do. Done 3 so far and get only 1 Ape's Tooth, 2 Frenzy's Claws and some Klunkies -_-

    If you have a good faction, or even 3 good friends, you can do runs just for the bosses you need. Takes about 15 minutes per boss (depending on how much DD you can bring) and with double drops on you have a decent chance of getting everything you need in a few runs.

    I am lucky enough to have a good faction and some friends who are willing to do this. The person who needs their gear gets it quick and the rest of the squad splits other drops to help cover expenses. I have been on many runs where I spent more than I made... but also been on many where I got all the major drops because I needed them, so it works out for the whole group over time.

    As for frenzy lion claws the can be farmed from the first boss in 2-2 solo mode. If you have one friend over lvl 82+ to open it...
    "Solo" mode is a IH stacked slog for a lone cleric, and probably charm-**** as well, but take a ranged DD in there to tank and it will go quite fast.

    I haven't done 2-2 solo but in 2-1 solo the first boss uses a ranged physical aoe b:shocked

    Tangential tale of a nub:
    First time I tried it with another cleric and an archer... I was gonna tank, as highest level. We all ran out to the boss, cleric started healing me and I started attacking, all of a sudden they were both half dead and running back to the hall. The archer got blown up in the hand trap and the other cleric barely made it out of aoe alive. I stacked myself with IH while the archer got rezzed and went back to attacking. About halfway through the archer stole aggro from me (not too surprising b:chuckle) and Fataliqua took a run at him. He stopped attacking right away, and I got back aggro before they were killed, but the boss had run to where the archer and cleric were in aoe again. Now they were trapped between the hands taking 1k+ aoe hits every couple seconds, so uh... they both died... and both laid there till I finished off the boss... 5 IH and one whirlwind over and over and over and over...
  • Balthier - Dreamweaver
    Balthier - Dreamweaver Posts: 182 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ive used the Yaksa for the last ten lvls, and its an awesome weapon!

    That 216 phy def is really sexy, and will help you just as much as the HP on the Endless Ambiguity (I find it better to be honest). However, I do kinda regret it a bit, since the TT90 you make from the Yaksa sucks an awfull lot. I've farmed TT during 2x now to make both Wheel of Life and then decompose it and make Wheel of denied fate.

    For atk power: Wheel of Life --> Wheel of Denied Fate (Alternatively, use your TT70 till lvl 85 and get Aquadash if you can afford it).

    For Defence/LA: Yaksa (sell it when you get your lvl 90, or keep it for an awesome tt99 wpn xD).

    For something inbetween: Endless Ambiguity --> Wraith Conquerer.
  • Maragon - Dreamweaver
    Maragon - Dreamweaver Posts: 645 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    glaives is nice for a good weapon if you cant get TT runs or mats too easily. I rarely have the time to run 2-1 and 2-2 epsecially when we have the manpower online to do one of those runs. I got a glaives mold for 1 mil, used some blue eggs from the tideborn quests to refine to +4 and put in a flawless sapphire i pick up off the ground when some guy was dropping cash shop pack stuff because he didnt like what he was getting.b:chuckle

    I really like it too my buffed magic atk stat is 5310-7517 at level 79 according to pwcalc (i'm not near my personal computer)

    the large range can give some decent spike damage too (though personally i prefer constant damage) I used 2 spark lvl 8 weild thunder on ofotis on fb59 and hit him for over 19k without critting or debuffs

    But yes it is a mold and does not go anywhere. looking into the future i will still likely make an endless ambiguity to get the wraith conqueror at 90 since i already have the greifs breath anyway but I would also like to get the wheel at TT99.
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  • Deceptistar - Sanctuary
    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Dont forget to keep in mind what your NEXT weapon is and want to use. Since youll need the souledges from the previous weapons for lv90. Most of the reason pple went with endless A. is because the the future choices in weapon they had. Also yaksa ends up being the harder one to sell if you decide you want to go a diff. route with weapons...
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  • Vivre - Harshlands
    Vivre - Harshlands Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I don't agree with the 'pick a chain to follow' mentality (unless you don't plan on investing in your weapon at all until 9x).

    You'd save money if you sold your finished TT gear then rebuy (or refarm) a crappy one for its souledge.
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  • Skybelle - Sanctuary
    Skybelle - Sanctuary Posts: 595 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The channeling....yeah that is a good point. I bet I could heal faster with it :3

    The only thing about this. You don't really see much of a difference unless you have -10% chan and up. b:surrender

    I'd say go for Glaives of Divinity just because it glows yellow. b:sad
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    Deceptistar - Sanctuary Posts: 10,454 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I don't agree with the 'pick a chain to follow' mentality (unless you don't plan on investing in your weapon at all until 9x).

    You'd save money if you sold your finished TT gear then rebuy (or refarm) a crappy one for its souledge.
    yes, thats the ideal. But sadly reality is harsh and its easier said than done ;/ There are not many pple that are willing to buy hand me down weapons, and the ones that dont mind, tend to be short in cash... I already had a **** load of bad time tryin to sell souledges. Maybe its diff. on a new server.
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  • Magicgabe - Lost City
    Magicgabe - Lost City Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I got wheel of life.

    +70mag attack - not bad
    +13 mag - not bad either
    +10 dex - I accidentally put 5 dex in long ago. too lazy to stat it out. Therefore, I get 1% crit now. so... Not bad either. If you accidentaly put dex in or you have some dex through gear this isn't entirely bad.

    now I don't have to farm HH80 for wheel of denied fate. I just buy the mats throughout my next 9 lvls as a slowly gather money or maybe I might do some HH runs along the way too.
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  • Kawakami - Dreamweaver
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I had a Yaksa and sticked with it and got an Innocent reverie which isn't that great, but I like the TT99 scaredevil more than the 99 counterparts of wraith conquerer.
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