TT1-3 messed with?

EthikaII - Heavens Tear
EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
edited February 2010 in General Discussion
Anyone done a Squad mode 1-3 today? notice anything different with drummer? maybe hitting 8k +?
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    were you getting hit by his magic? because his m.atk is similar to wurlord whom hit my pure mag veno for ~7.5k buffed |:, which is a ridiculously high end m.atk too.
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  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'll have to look into that one. Though I don't recall pole and nob in 69 having such large differences in dmg either.

    nobbins aoe- 600 - 800 LA

    pole aoe - 800 - 2.8k
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  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The barb i was with is 93 with TT armo all refined +2 but normaly drummer his 1-2k? mag attk he was hitting 8.4k-10k , the barb has 13k+Hp he even 2 shot a lvl 84 herc with lvl 5 strong? O_o
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'll have to look into that one. Though I don't recall pole and nob in 69 having such large differences in dmg either.

    nobbins aoe- 600 - 800 LA

    pole aoe - 800 - 2.8k
    pole is using a magic aoe, guarnob is using a physical one, if youre up right next to him for melee, itll be a bit of a different damage. same goes for your accesories, i stack alot of mdef, and he only hits me for ~1400 top.
    The barb i was with is 93 with TT armo all refined +2 but normaly drummer his 1-2k? mag attk he was hitting 8.4k-10k , the barb has 13k+Hp he even 2 shot a lvl 84 herc with lvl 5 strong? O_o
    thats not uncommon, ive seen him 2 shot a 95 herc before.
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  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    were you getting hit by his magic? because his m.atk is similar to wurlord whom hit my pure mag veno for ~7.5k buffed |:, which is a ridiculously high end m.atk too.

    also i don't think drmmer has ever hit like wurlord and you can diffinitly tell the difference :s
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  • Rocketgirl - Lost City
    Rocketgirl - Lost City Posts: 22 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i could solo HH2-1 before the patch with no problem at all. now today i went to do it and get one shotted by first boss.... hes way stronger now............. ugh there goes to ult subs
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    also i don't think drmmer has ever hit like wurlord and you can diffinitly tell the difference :s
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/14742
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/mob/14737

    not really, they hit pretty much the same.
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  • Foxgrit - Lost City
    Foxgrit - Lost City Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The barb i was with is 93 with TT armo all refined +2 but normaly drummer his 1-2k? mag attk he was hitting 8.4k-10k , the barb has 13k+Hp he even 2 shot a lvl 84 herc with lvl 5 strong? O_o

    ha ha a level 84 herc always would have got 2 shot by 1-3 drum.
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    and 007 norm hits 3k-9k? cuase veno was tanking him perfectly fine but says it was only hitting 1k the whole time O.o? maybe they upped his chance of criting? or actually hitting 10k?
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  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ha ha a level 84 herc always would have got 2 shot by 1-3 drum.

    not true iv seen him tank it once before. and he has said he has himself tanked it before.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    1-3 drummy can tear through hercs, you really need a 90+ with a ton of -channeling and even then he can still kill herc if you slip up. His magic hits crazy hard. What was the barbs elemental res exactly? Phys res ornaments and a few holes in metal res on armour could make a huge difference.
  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i can barely solo 2-1 wurlord too, im sure drummer would be no different. try too get a genie with earthquake, it cancels spells, it helps alot.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • luxferro
    luxferro Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    All I know is that I was able to tank Drummer last week and today I'm getting one and two hit.
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    @ _DarkSeph_ he recently changed armor from OHT back to TT90 heavy +2
    he says it is all 3487 buffed sense changing back to TT90 but changing might have lowered metal resist while fire and earth went up. he says it still never hit him that hard even in his 80 gear
    i can barely solo 2-1 wurlord too, im sure drummer would be no different. try too get a genie with earthquake, it cancels spells, it helps alot.

    mmm i don't think we have had this sort of trouble with them in a while , we TT a bit now was expecting a normal fine run. till i noticed herc was getting beatin pretty hard, and i know we have prob with wurlord mostly skipping him. if drummer hit as hard as that we wouldn't be there atm
    with only 3 ppl. 3 ppl cuase we have ran them enough to know what we're doing in there and what to normally expect.
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  • ReYVynN - Heavens Tear
    ReYVynN - Heavens Tear Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    im the barb in OP's party. 1-3 Drummer NEVER, EVER hit me like that before. even with my 80s gear set (TT wrist/feet, 77/79 Legendary chest/legs, all unrefined)... now i have full TT90 HA set all +2 and he darn near one shots me through heals... hardest hit i saw through all the flashy lights was close to 10.7k...
  • Zazulyte - Sanctuary
    Zazulyte - Sanctuary Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Was the blessing being worn?
    I know it doesn't make a huge difference, but every little bit helps.

    And was magic shell active at the time?
    Since it doesn't get over ridden when you rebuff it has a nasty habit of running out at bad times.

    About the only two reasons i can think for the damage jumping up that high, besides it being his AOE near death, which doesn't exactly tickle.
  • Reysassin - Heavens Tear
    Reysassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    this was right from the start and tbh my blessing wasnt on til after the first charm tick (the first 8.4k hit i saw) but still, this is new... maybe since they revamped the instances (like taking the runners above Shooting Aur [dimentora, gold boss, whatever u call him])

    but it never used to be that bad
    ReYVynN-93 barb (semi-retired)
    Reysassin-8X assassin (semi-actively levelling til sage/demon skills drop)
    Sbiggs-54 veno
    and others to remain unlisted...

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  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Perhaps it was one of his crits? i know even i can have trouble once and a while on him in 1-3 with my **** chann gear on (15% total) but its deff not every tt he does this maybe 2 out of 10
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Was the blessing being worn?
    I know it doesn't make a huge difference, but every little bit helps.

    And was magic shell active at the time?
    Since it doesn't get over ridden when you rebuff it has a nasty habit of running out at bad times.

    About the only two reasons i can think for the damage jumping up that high, besides it being his AOE near death, which doesn't exactly tickle.

    yeah all buffs on cuase i was watching for this weird aegis spirit glitch some cleric mentioned the other day.

    Perhaps it was one of his crits? i know even i can have trouble once and a while on him in 1-3 with my **** chann gear on (15% total) but its deff not every tt he does this maybe 2 out of 10

    He had a big crit % chance to night then O. O. but it is the first trouble we've had with him in a long while.
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  • Reysassin - Heavens Tear
    Reysassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    not jsut on crits im afraid...

    unless of course he was running a 15-20% crit rate
    ReYVynN-93 barb (semi-retired)
    Reysassin-8X assassin (semi-actively levelling til sage/demon skills drop)
    Sbiggs-54 veno
    and others to remain unlisted...

    "What is best in life?"
    "Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And here the lamentation of their women."

    "Oracles... wtf are oracles..? I'm here to play the game, not power level through it so i can call other people noobs..."
  • IceVixen - Raging Tide
    IceVixen - Raging Tide Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hmmm, Im willing to bet that TT and other dungeons were changed for the next 2 weeks.... to keep solo'ers out during 2x exp/spirit/(((DROPS)))... This should keep the farmers down to a minimum, and keep prices the same...if not higher o.O;; b:chuckle
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    we just ran a 1-1 with lvl 67 barb. 2 30+( they stayed back from aoe) me and the 84 Veno. asked the barb to stay back to see if there was somthing different here. veno looked a way for a second, herc dead(wouldn't have if veno didn't look away), but the barb was almost 2 shotted luckly a charm saving he butt.at 50% i actually had to squad heal where normaly i could let it go a few hits then wellspring without a care or chromatic heal beam. the aoe wasn't somthing to rly worry about but it seem to hit me and the veno harder tonight.

    we know the veno was wrong for looking away that second but im more pointing out the aoe damage.
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  • /NiKi - Lost City
    /NiKi - Lost City Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    drummer is very tricky,not once i saw he hit barb for 8-9k.
    and rocketgirl and wafflechan are right,lvl 84 herc no way it can tank drummer in 1-3.
    maybe person who told u that,was thinking of 1-2 which is big difference.
    i wasnt able to tank it with herc on lvl 90 either with -24% channel (arcane veno=high heals).
    i didnt try anymore till recently,now i can tank it but..herc is my lvl and i am up to -30% channel b:surrender
    i always have cleric with me,for bb or party heal at drummer.
    but i didnt try do hh yet today,i will and gonna check is there any diff
  • Reysassin - Heavens Tear
    Reysassin - Heavens Tear Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hmmm, Im willing to bet that TT and other dungeons were changed for the next 2 weeks.... to keep solo'ers out during 2x exp/spirit/(((DROPS)))... This should keep the farmers down to a minimum, and keep prices the same...if not higher o.O;; b:chuckle

    yeah, Ice... i remember that coming up as a question in our squad chat after drummer just about handed us our asses for hats. believe i said sumthing like "maybe they tweaked em for the 2x to slow down power farming..." or something like that. would be nice to have a warning on stuff like that tho...

    my 93 barb shouldnt have that much trouble in an instance meant for people 10-15 or so levels lower than the char...
    ReYVynN-93 barb (semi-retired)
    Reysassin-8X assassin (semi-actively levelling til sage/demon skills drop)
    Sbiggs-54 veno
    and others to remain unlisted...

    "What is best in life?"
    "Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And here the lamentation of their women."

    "Oracles... wtf are oracles..? I'm here to play the game, not power level through it so i can call other people noobs..."
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    drummer is very tricky,not once i saw he hit barb for 8-9k.
    and rocketgirl and wafflechan are right,lvl 84 herc no way it can tank drummer in 1-3.
    maybe person who told u that,was thinking of 1-2 which is big difference.
    i wasnt able to tank it with herc on lvl 90 either with -24% channel (arcane veno=high heals).
    i didnt try anymore till recently,now i can tank it but..herc is my lvl and i am up to -30% channel b:surrender
    i always have cleric with me,for bb or party heal at drummer.
    but i didnt try do hh yet today,i will and gonna check is there any diff

    Veno seemed pretty sure of himself even thought i did ask twice which TT and mode.
    I thought if someone tested it near the 100's they might not have any problem or even notice sense they would be at the lvl to do a 3-2 or so?
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    Moving to alts till they fix GBA boss ;(
  • Foxgrit - Lost City
    Foxgrit - Lost City Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    drummer is very tricky,not once i saw he hit barb for 8-9k.
    and rocketgirl and wafflechan are right,lvl 84 herc no way it can tank drummer in 1-3.
    maybe person who told u that,was thinking of 1-2 which is big difference.
    i wasnt able to tank it with herc on lvl 90 either with -24% channel (arcane veno=high heals).
    i didnt try anymore till recently,now i can tank it but..herc is my lvl and i am up to -30% channel b:surrender
    i always have cleric with me,for bb or party heal at drummer.
    but i didnt try do hh yet today,i will and gonna check is there any diff

    i agree last time i checked 1-3 my herc was 93 and it got squashed like a bug. 12% channel at the time. i havent had a need to go since but still dont think it would be able to at 99 unless i stack some more channeling.
  • EthikaII - Heavens Tear
    EthikaII - Heavens Tear Posts: 664 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Lets see how this 2-2 goes.....
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    Moving to alts till they fix GBA boss ;(
  • Amsel - Sanctuary
    Amsel - Sanctuary Posts: 295 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    idk about u guys bet after tting all day nps here. But drum is alway hard cause of those crits
  • XxIfritxX - Lost City
    XxIfritxX - Lost City Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lol drum boss always hit hard onj magic yes for the TT u in it will hit a barb that much when I tank drum boss I make sure to time his magic hit
    n stop it
    but he will stop using it after taking 50 % down from his hp then start the aoe hit
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  • _Pale - Sanctuary
    _Pale - Sanctuary Posts: 210 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Just ran TT 1-3 in squad mode:
    Barb, lvl 93, 13k HP

    drummer hit him for 6500-7000 HP on first strike, after that no more then normal. So I think just the first strike might have been changed, maybe a bit harder then average.

    Stacked with IH and a stream of Rejuvenation at start everything seemed to go fine, no hiccups along the way
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