Barb vs. ****(assin)

CornHilario - Heavens Tear
CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Barbarian
http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=596612

barb vs. ****(assin). who would obliterate* the other one's ****.

*take a look at the above thread and u might say ****(assins) "obliterate" barb's asses... of course, same can be said for the heavy melee>light melee.

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  • Esteven - Heavens Tear
    Esteven - Heavens Tear Posts: 65 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you look at the pick, there is no use of bloodbath and he is not high enough for misties. Would have had the same outcome facing an archer.

    Accuracy plays a big factor against high dex classes. So I bet this fight went miss miss miss miss hit miss miss hit . . . and the assassin wins.

    That's just my view on this.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Esteven - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you look at the pick, there is no use of bloodbath and he is not high enough for misties. Would have had the same outcome facing an archer.

    Accuracy plays a big factor against high dex classes. So I bet this fight went miss miss miss miss hit miss miss hit . . . and the assassin wins.

    That's just my view on this.

    probably this.
    b:surrender
    well on a side note, me can 2 shot (probably 1 shot if it crits) similar level assassins. (as long as they not super cash shopped)
    the only problem be that they can stealth + teleport + teleport stun.
    ._.'
    sort of makes it hard to get off the 2 shots in the first place.
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    at that point sins,archers win off barbs in duels easy but try it again with bloodbath and lvl77+(if barb has misties)
    not to mention that in duels charms dont work thus its not really what would happen in pk mode

    i think even a non fail HA bm can wipe sins at 77+
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

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  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Esteven - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you look at the pick, there is no use of bloodbath and he is not high enough for misties. Would have had the same outcome facing an archer.

    Accuracy plays a big factor against high dex classes. So I bet this fight went miss miss miss miss hit miss miss hit . . . and the assassin wins.

    That's just my view on this.

    well i guess ur right... just that pic sorta scared me a little lol.
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  • haybails
    haybails Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Not only the bloodbath/misty thing but where were his beastking/titans buffs?
  • CornHilario - Heavens Tear
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear Posts: 647 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    haybails wrote: »
    Not only the bloodbath/misty thing but where were his beastking/titans buffs?

    HAH. now THATS the REAL questionb:chuckleb:chuckleb:chuckle
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  • __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City
    __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I have yet to be beaten by a sin in my lvl range
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  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Im not so sure thats a good example. We dont know what the barbs gear is, what his HP is, why he wasnt buffed with beast inspiration or str of titan....also, lvl 60's isnt a really good level to estimate who is the champion out of the two classes/
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  • Dasypogon - Harshlands
    Dasypogon - Harshlands Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    probably this.
    b:surrender
    well on a side note, me can 2 shot (probably 1 shot if it crits) similar level assassins. (as long as they not super cash shopped)

    If they are using deadened nerves, I do not think crits matter.

    If they have not been you probably have not been fighting competent ninjas.. i mean assassins.
  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mellee toon with light armor actually KILL a descent Barb in PK?

    I mean WTF??! Yeah a super cash shop Sin vs a s!tty equiped barb would win, but thats it.
    Dont take me wrong, i got a lvl70 sin myself and i love him BUT i dont see how he can take out 20k HP+ with my charm on.

    I had fun the other day, i was in west arch getting chi of the guard. Suddenly i get stunned, sub-sea strike on me - Headhunt.
    Propably seeing the fight was useless the sin forced stealth. I Armageddoned the guard. Quess what skill that sin had on cooldownb:laugh a corpse appeared on teh ground b:victory
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  • Xtasy - Raging Tide
    Xtasy - Raging Tide Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    weird i killed an ****(assin) am i doing something wrongb:surrender
  • Solariz - Harshlands
    Solariz - Harshlands Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    barb have at least 1 skill that is 100% hitable use it it should help untill lv77 where misty and bloodbath b:victory
  • Bulldowzah - Dreamweaver
    Bulldowzah - Dreamweaver Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i dual'd/pk'd tons of sins

    there not that hard w bloodbath, beastial and mighty swing
    if ur not lucky with the hits, just spend enough time with mighty swing

    sin's are squishy as hell
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    6x BM
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  • __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City
    __AsHRAcK__ - Lost City Posts: 177 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If they fly my genie will 1 shot themb:laugh
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Dasypogon - Harshlands wrote: »
    If they are using deadened nerves, I do not think crits matter.

    If they have not been you probably have not been fighting competent ninjas.. i mean assassins.

    deaden nerve would just mean me has to shoot em 1 more time....(me still want to see if the archer glitch cancels out deaden nerve lol)
    easy when they only can survive halfway through a sutra combo.
    b:sweat

    so unless they force stealth or escape some other way before...because they be so squishy anyone of me attacks can deal 20-40% of their life....(well except mayhaps emberstorm)...they be dead lol.
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  • Jannove - Harshlands
    Jannove - Harshlands Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Esteven - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    If you look at the pick, there is no use of bloodbath and he is not high enough for misties. Would have had the same outcome facing an archer.

    Accuracy plays a big factor against high dex classes. So I bet this fight went miss miss miss miss hit miss miss hit . . . and the assassin wins.

    That's just my view on this.

    i laughed so hard about that in real xD "miss miss miss miss hit miss miss hit" xD
    so damn funny
  • NPH - Harshlands
    NPH - Harshlands Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=596612

    barb vs. ****(assin). who would obliterate* the other one's ****.

    *take a look at the above thread and u might say ****(assins) "obliterate" barb's asses... of course, same can be said for the heavy melee>light melee.

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    The person who made that post is already getting owned on the PVP thread they made. Theres really no point to come back on here and do it again.
  • Must - Lost City
    Must - Lost City Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yesterday i killed a lv l90 plus asssasin wich is a huge cash shopper stilll we can tell who own who cause TB still dont have third spark and demon/sage skills
  • Khalfani - Harshlands
    Khalfani - Harshlands Posts: 218 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Oh please, Assasins aren't big of a problem. I dont see why people are flustering over them.

    A] They're squishy
    B] They dodge, so use never-miss attacks like flesh ream and mighty swing.
    C] Violent Triumph at Level 79

    and Finally

    D] Untamed Wrath, also at 79 to remove stealth

    Also, worth mentioning, level up Frighten. Nothing like having your target lose 50% attack speed and 30% of their damage.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    doesn't Untamed Wrath
    need a target to cast?
    b:puzzled
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  • Wolfgore - Heavens Tear
    Wolfgore - Heavens Tear Posts: 293 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    doesn't Untamed Wrath
    need a target to cast?
    b:puzzled

    No Hamsta, Untamed wrath is an AoE skill centered on yourself.
    So we dont need a target to cast it b:victory
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  • Varscona - Sanctuary
    Varscona - Sanctuary Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    at 6x fighting a barb with a high dex char is like taunting a fat kid...sorry i just had to say it b:chuckle
  • Brutu - Heavens Tear
    Brutu - Heavens Tear Posts: 108 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I think I have a plausible explanation to this...

    He got to bh51 along with the cleric and sin alone. While waiting for everybody else they decided to duel for sparks and he refused to bloodbath because he was the one that needed to tank, he also refused to buff himself with the other skills as he would have to do it again when the rest of the group was there which would waste his mana.

    Next he missed a load of times and died. b:pleased

    EDIT:If you look at the chat they asked the venos to hurry up to the bh which proves my theory.

    So in his defense he had good reason not to use the above skills.
  • Fortress - Raging Tide
    Fortress - Raging Tide Posts: 151 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I find Sins to be incapable of killing a barb.(unless its a big lvl difference) In my experience as a barb i have never been killed be a Sin in my lvl range. I've killed sins easily with out a prob. Just today i killed a 78 sin (lucky n he was my friend lol) n a 69 sin which kept trying to pk my while questing. I dont see how sin would ever take down a barb."I" a 65 barb can take out a 69 or 78 sin, sins arent affective against barbs. Note: to fact that i never use bloodbath, i just spam Mighty Swing n etc...
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  • Godly - Raging Tide
    Godly - Raging Tide Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    CornHilario - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=596612

    barb vs. ****(assin). who would obliterate* the other one's ****.

    *take a look at the above thread and u might say ****(assins) "obliterate" barb's asses... of course, same can be said for the heavy melee>light melee.

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    He isnt high enough for misty's, also regardless of him using bloodbath, ive went 3 vs 1 against 3 assassins on Raging Tides and i killed 2 and the other went invisible and ran, This is JUST a duel, barbs shine alot better in PK when they are charmed, rather than duels, which are not for barbs for the most part, also, did he even use mighty swing? 100% accurate, 50% chance to stun, come on, thats the best skill he has against high dex opponents, i need more proof that this barb isnt a total nub
  • Cirax - Dreamweaver
    Cirax - Dreamweaver Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I agree that screenshot isn't a great example. Too many unknown factors. Plus, duels are much different than PK.

    Sins are great in PvP, but they're the weakest versus HA classes. Specifically against barbs, they have to out-do their HP and Pdef. Not only are sins squishy, they're HP isn't quite high if they are a pure dex build. Given that barbs have a few 100% accuracy skills, in duels they just have to have a few successful hits to finish the duel. Add misty rings and bloodbath, it's lots of trouble for the sin.

    In pk, physical damage to a charmed barb is gl. Barb vs BM seems to always be a close match because both classes are melee and generally HA. It's hard to kill one another in an even match without sparks. However, barb vs sin is HA vs LA , but both are melee. So even with insane crits and dmg, sins still have to get through a barb's hp and charm, whereas a barb has to concentrate on connecting hits. If he does, it won't take long to take down a melee LA class.
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  • Xnastyx - Lost City
    Xnastyx - Lost City Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    y does everyone think barbs have such a hard time hiting targets..
    answer to your prayers.And this is spamable.this on top of our suckish accuracy makes up for the sucky evasion u would have :)

    ○Beastial Onslaught
    Range 12.0meters
    Mana 120.0
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 1.1 seconds
    Cooldown 8.0 seconds
    Weapon Axe, Poleaxe, Hammer or Polehammer

    Requisite Cultivation Aware of the Void
    Launch your solidified courage at all enemies within a 12.0 meter radius,
    inflicting 100% of weapon damage plus 3600.0 to a single target and reducing
    surrounding enemies' evasion by 50% for 8 seconds. Increases your critical
    hit rate for 6 seconds.

    Demon version grants 35% increased critical hit rate for 6 seconds.
  • Must - Lost City
    Must - Lost City Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Xnastyx - Lost City wrote: »
    y does everyone think barbs have such a hard time hiting targets..
    answer to your prayers.And this is spamable.this on top of our suckish accuracy makes up for the sucky evasion u would have :)

    ○Beastial Onslaught
    Range 12.0meters
    Mana 120.0
    Channel 0.4 seconds
    Cast 1.1 seconds
    Cooldown 8.0 seconds
    Weapon Axe, Poleaxe, Hammer or Polehammer

    Requisite Cultivation Aware of the Void
    Launch your solidified courage at all enemies within a 12.0 meter radius,
    inflicting 100% of weapon damage plus 3600.0 to a single target and reducing
    surrounding enemies' evasion by 50% for 8 seconds. Increases your critical
    hit rate for 6 seconds.

    Demon version grants 35% increased critical hit rate for 6 seconds.

    Thing is were are this skill for sale i have serch since lv l80 for that never found one to sell or someone to sell me one thats the main problem so answer my pray and sell me one
  • Varscona - Sanctuary
    Varscona - Sanctuary Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    92 skills are obtainable from old book pages no?

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