Max True Form?

I don't grind in Tiger Form. Thats just plain useless.

Juggernaut - Harshlands wrote: »

The only time Barbs should grind in Tiger Form is when you aoe grind at much later levels. Til then, you should grind in human form, and level up True Form as high as you can.

Very true...

I grind in Tiger form. I find it highly effective in my opinion.
I dont have charms or cant afford many pots, so I use them sparingly. I maxxed out my true form early and my results were spectaculous.
As you all know, solo barbs tend to pot alot when grinding, unless you have a charm, then it explains your preference to stay in regular form. But I digress, True Form gives me an extra boost in HP and a massive increase in defense. The skills that are available to me in tiger form are wonderful in AoE grinding/questing. I maxxed out frighten and surf impact, allowing me to reduce my opponents physical attack by 30% and their attack speed by half. I am fighting 5 to 6 mobs at once. In regular form, this feat would require you to heavily spam your skills like swell, firestorm and slam which is demanding in mana. In tiger form, I'm in no rush, and I needn't pot as often as you would in regular form. I simply use Frighten, Surf Impact, and then sunder. I regain full HP from sunder and it's a done deal, I just use regular attack and finish them off one mob at a time while suffering the least amount of damage. While fighting these mobs in regular form, I receive around 200 to 400 damage. While in tiger form, the damage goes down to 100 to 200 (and lesser with Frighten Used). Also, taking in consideration that my hp in tiger mode is at 13k and in regular form, 10k. Never underestimate the power of true form. It is a money saving ability that everyone should use in any situation. The only way I see useful in going to regular form is if you want to have your grind quest go faster.

tl;dr
True Form saves you MP and HP pots by giving you higher damage absorption from enemies. Using True Form while grinding pays for itself by reducing costs all-round.

meh its really a matter off preference when you really start needing that hp max tiger form asap though you will want it maxed at 70 or earlier unless you heavily cash shop or dont wanna tank TTs

khalfani - Harshlands wrote: »

i Grind In Tiger Form. I Find It Highly Effective In My Opinion.
I Dont Have Charms Or Cant Afford Many Pots, So I Use Them Sparingly. I Maxxed Out My True Form Early And My Results Were Spectaculous.
As You All Know, Solo Barbs Tend To Pot Alot When Grinding, Unless You Have A Charm, Then It Explains Your Preference To Stay In Regular Form. But I Digress, True Form Gives Me An Extra Boost In Hp And A Massive Increase In Defense. The Skills That Are Available To Me In Tiger Form Are Wonderful In Aoe Grinding/questing. I Maxxed Out Frighten And Surf Impact, Allowing Me To Reduce My Opponents Physical Attack By 30% And Their Attack Speed By Half. I Am Fighting 5 To 6 Mobs At Once. In Regular Form, This Feat Would Require You To Heavily Spam Your Skills Like Swell, Firestorm And Slam Which Is Demanding In Mana. In Tiger Form, I'm In No Rush, And I Needn't Pot As Often As You Would In Regular Form. I Simply Use Frighten, Surf Impact, And Then Sunder. I Regain Full Hp From Sunder And It's A Done Deal, I Just Use Regular Attack And Finish Them Off One Mob At A Time While Suffering The Least Amount Of Damage. While Fighting These Mobs In Regular Form, I Receive Around 200 To 400 Damage. While In Tiger Form, The Damage Goes Down To 100 To 200 (and Lesser With Frighten Used). Also, Taking In Consideration That My Hp In Tiger Mode Is At 13k And In Regular Form, 10k. Never Underestimate The Power Of True Form. It Is A Money Saving Ability That Everyone Should Use In Any Situation. The Only Way I See Useful In Going To Regular Form Is If You Want To Have Your Grind Quest Go Faster.

Tl;dr
True Form Saves You Mp And Hp Pots By Giving You Higher Damage Absorption From Enemies. Using True Form While Grinding Pays For Itself By Reducing Costs All-round.

Qft.......................

True from 3 is a must have for Demon Barbs. About Sage Barbs i dont know. Make your mind.

personally i like a well balanced barb, versatile is the way to go imo.

while true form lvl 1 has the least attack reduction penalty, i find that the speed boost you lack will get others killed in group runs like BHs or TT, you need to be able to get to the mobs fast enough to stop them from killing the squishy characters. So to balance it out i stick with lvl 2 true form, the speed is just enough to catch mobs in time (have holy path and maybe apothecary speed boost items just in case though) and you still do decent attack (I crit for 8k+) and axe mastery and poison fang more then makes up for the lost attack power IMO (yes, i grind in true form, running from one mob to the next is more efficient in true form) i party with very few other barbs for obvious reasons and i haven't seen any other barbs at my lvl perform better then me for a few exceptions.

now if you're not afraid to spend a little on pots i like doing this combo for multiple mobs FR+Devour+surf+human form+penetrate armor+slam+tiger form+surf= massive damg to everything around you and a few normal hits kills the rest (obviously this is a huge mana eater so use it at your own digression)

when you fight magic mobs and ranged mobs tiger form helps cause of teh speed and allicracy of beast to stop them in their tracks, and teh bleed bonus keeps killing them even when they're running away which makes me laugh some times b:laugh

but in the end it's all about your own play style i prefer this to other styles and i think i'm very good at what i do.

The only times my barb is ever in normal form is for buffing, switching genies, or equipping new armor/weps. I have no skills in normal form anyway, why would I use it? The purpose of a barb (usually) is to tank, so that's how mine's built. It may take longer to kill stuff, do quests, etc, but that doesn't really bother me. Having people tell me I'm one of the best tanks they've ever seen is very satisfying, I think, so I really have no desire or need to get my normal form skills. So, personally, I would recommend maxxing true form asap, but, just like all the others, that's just one man's opinion, and you should make up your own mind about it based on how you want to play your barb.

b:laugh

Actually...Lower lvl True Form = More damage - Less HP and defence. -50 kudos in tankability.

Max lvl true form = Less damage - More HP and defence. +50 kudos in tankability.

Repairs are kinda the same since more damage = less hits taken

My personal opinion? Max it before you try tanking Drum in 1-3 with a noob cleric or you are SO gonna regret it b:chuckle

isnt it true that by lvl 89, you can max all skills..

I've got to agree with all the 8X's and 9X's that said MAX True Form. There's no other skill in the game that gives you these benefits.

Not happy with your damage in tiger? Get a better weapon and refine...when it's time for your culti, go Demon.

My point of view is this: We're tanks first and foremost (In PvE) which means that our ability to get knocked about and still stand up is more important than our ability to knock things down. Get used to timing your cancels, and finding out the limits of your squad.

We are meat shields. If you want to see high damage numbers, well, that either comes endgame, or you can roll another toon.

/2cents

Dont forget poison fang too, and about max all skils at 86 WRONG.. im 94 atmm and still have Frighten at lvl 3 i remember at 86 i miss las lvl of armaggedon 2 lvl on sunder and frighten, and a 79 skill....now im just gaining spirits to put demon skils...

MAX IT!!!!!! mine is almost maxed on other barb and he's in the 70s and he does 3k damage with flesh ream and i got about 10k life in tiger form