Assassin Stealth Weakness!(Do Not Read Assassins)
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver
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If you start channeling a spell and they go invisible, the spell still hits them.
i.e
i use stone rain
assassin goes invisible
stone rain finishes channeling and one shots assassin
So use your strongest skill and chances are they will freak out, go invisible but still get hit.
Happy Fish Farmingb:cute
P.S. melee classes are just screwed, sowwiesb:sad
i.e
i use stone rain
assassin goes invisible
stone rain finishes channeling and one shots assassin
So use your strongest skill and chances are they will freak out, go invisible but still get hit.
Happy Fish Farmingb:cute
P.S. melee classes are just screwed, sowwiesb:sad
Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze
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Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »If you start channeling a spell and they go invisible, the spell still hits them.
i.e
i use stone rain
assassin goes invisible
stone rain finishes channeling and one shots assassin
So use your strongest skill and chances are they will freak out, go invisible but still get hit.
Happy Fish Farmingb:cute
P.S. melee classes are just screwed, sowwiesb:sad
Melee classes have the least to worry about from Sins, though, as any sin trying to poke a Melee class will be WTFPWNed anyway. Such a happy thought... A sin poking an angry barb. b:chuckle0 -
Doesn't an assassin always stays invisible during pvp(eg TW)?As for duels he can go invisible during timer or before he accepts it.Anyway a good thing to know.0
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Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »Melee classes have the least to worry about from Sins, though, as any sin trying to poke a Melee class will be WTFPWNed anyway. Such a happy thought... A sin poking an angry barb. b:chuckle
lolol b:chuckle
but yeah... an assassin trying to poke a barb or blademaster with higher phys def than that assassin... just isn't gonna work in the fish's favor :P same for heavy venos I'm sure. but the heavy venos have pets to kill back with, not just themselves. o.o;;_Jaysun_'s Wife
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Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »If you start channeling a spell and they go invisible, the spell still hits them.
i.e
i use stone rain
assassin goes invisible
stone rain finishes channeling and one shots assassin
So use your strongest skill and chances are they will freak out, go invisible but still get hit.
Happy Fish Farmingb:cute
P.S. melee classes are just screwed, sowwiesb:sad
Lets say you start an aoe skill on a mob on a pvp server. If there is an assassin in stealth mode you will hit him if he is in range. Same applies to your suggestion. If you start a skill, b/c of casting time the skill hasn't actually hit the sin before he goes invisible. Therefore when you finally cast (for wizards, a year later) unless the sin has moved out of your range for that skill he will still be hit. You never moved your target, that is why.
Stealth mode is for it to be hard for you to find/see the assassin, not so that he is invincible like so many ppl think.0 -
veno pet in defense mode will target and attack a sin just before they hit you.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Yourmom - Lost City wrote: »veno pet in defense mode will target and attack a sin just before they hit you.
nice ;p
i found this out because an assassin hit me in TW (for like 400 damage) i started channeling my stone rain (which is 1.6 seconds fyi >_>) he went invis and my stone rain hit him then he came uninvis dead...
wtf is up with people and wizard channeling times?Sins are Scissors. Psychics are Rocks.
Archers, Venos, Barbs, Wizards, BMs, Mystics, Seekers are Paper.
...and Clerics are Mushrooms.
Paper beats Rock. Scissors beats Paper. Scissors also happens to beat Rock...until Rock gets 50k+ soulforce at which point Rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that beats Paper... and would beat Scissors but it can't find Scissors, because Scissors are invisible.
So Scissors beat Paper and avoids Rock, and that is called BALANCE. -cheze0 -
Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »
wtf is up with people and wizard channeling times?
cause I've seen them casting their longer skills and it takes them forever o.o;; Though I will admit that it takes us venos a long time to cast our noxious and parasitic nova too. But added channeling gear helps :P_Jaysun_'s Wife
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Mizuoni - Dreamweaver wrote: »nice ;p
i found this out because an assassin hit me in TW (for like 400 damage) i started channeling my stone rain (which is 1.6 seconds fyi >_>) he went invis and my stone rain hit him then he came uninvis dead...
wtf is up with people and wizard channeling times?
I have a lvl 74 wizard, I know first hand how long it takes! Can almost read a book in the time it takes to cast some skills :P0 -
OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »I have a lvl 74 wizard, I know first hand how long it takes! Can almost read a book in the time it takes to cast some skills :P
Because lv.74 wizard is nothing. Just from lv.90+ is worth to have -channeling gear. -24% channeling is easily obtainable. -30% is my goal. That mean 1/3 faster and is a lot with critic.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Channeling is a pain, but its part of the skill involved in playing a wiz. Like knowing how long it will take for the BM/Barb to get in range, etc. When we get sleep @ 79 though we're pretty much OP. FoW -> Undine -> spark -> sleep -> Sandstorm+poison. With this combo and my +5 endless (b:cute) i can easily hit 4-5k on people my level. If i don't think i can 1 shot em i poke em with gush-pyro a couple times then seal -> etc.
P.S. I have -21 chan with my cheap orns on, of course i have refined pdef orns for PvP.
ON TOPIC: Emberstorm now has a special place on my skill bar, for ratting out stealthed sins. Even at lvl 1 the radius is 12 meters, and it'll even deal some minor damage if you double tap it.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
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Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »Because lv.74 wizard is nothing. Just from lv.90+ is worth to have -channeling gear. -24% channeling is easily obtainable. -30% is my goal. That mean 1/3 faster and is a lot with critic.
i prefer better the ~15% crit because if once i crit with aoe then its hurt XD.
(u will be 30% faster, in fast skills case if u got same amount casting than channeling and only channeling reduced by 30%?).0 -
eatwithspoons wrote: »Due to the influx of misplaced threads, all threads will be moved to their correct section or locked. We appreciate your understanding b:victory
Spoons b:surrender you're a bit too quick to move threads these days. This thread is meant for everyone who is NOT an assasin. Those people dont go to the Assassin forum.0 -
To use Stealth in the middle of a PvP combat as an escape route is simply plain noob. Its meant to be an offensive skill.
Sins have a neat set of disabling skills. If a pro sin user has the composure to execute them all without **** up, his opponent will find himself unable to do anything for more than 50% of the combat time frame.
Side tracking, I'm beginning to see the potential of an assassin as a late game powerhouse. The majority of the people around has this stereotyping view that there is no way a sin can defeat a BM/Barb. Thats only because most assasins have not utilize their skill potential to the fullest.
Most sin underestimated, if not, haven't figured out that there is a fault in the skill description of Power Dash when its supposed to be one of the most imbalanced skill. I've tried the 2 sparked crit rate inc. skill. At max level, it increases crit rate by 40%. Top that up with a 80-90ish sin's base crit of 25-30%, thats like 70% crit rate.
As a assassin myself, I've dueled a barb with a nice set of 70ish 3 star armours coupled with calamity axe around my level and my headhunt crits him for 1.9k - thats almost 1/4 of his hp. I brought him down within 7 hits - 3 out of the 6 were crits. My power dash is only at level 1 currently. Can anyone actually imagine the deadly effects of a maxed power dash? Probably would have been 5-6 crits out of 7 hits down there.
And I simply do not understand why people say assassins are squishy. Focused Mind at Level 10 gives you 25% evasion from all sorts of attack. That is pretty **** imo. On top of that, we'll have another set of chance to dodge physical attacks further from our high evasion rate. And those evading capabilities really helped me a lot all this time.0 -
Ok i was in sp pking and a sin popped out o the shadows and slept me, i have high pdef and good gear so he didn't even tick me b4 i sutra and almost killed him, when he went invis i just targeted a mob near him and DB, Dead as dirt. I have a Sin myself so i knew what to do in that case. Sin do rock tho if done right and you get to pop out and say BOO! b4 you take someone down. thats priceless[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]The Phantom Zone of ultimate MaDdNeSs is A ROOM WTH A MOOSE!0
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JediPandaX - Sanctuary wrote: »Ok i was in sp pking and a sin popped out o the shadows and slept me, i have high pdef and good gear so he didn't even tick me b4 i sutra and almost killed him, when he went invis i just targeted a mob near him and DB, Dead as dirt. I have a Sin myself so i knew what to do in that case. Sin do rock tho if done right and you get to pop out and say BOO! b4 you take someone down. thats priceless
Lol wait till the sins get their Demon/Sage/79 skills xD
That sin was pretty stupid anyway. Obviously Wizzies have better Pdef cuz of their buff durrr. But then again a good ol' Triple Spark +Tackling Slash/Deep Sting + Power Dash (Requires 5-5.5 Sparks, and that isn't hard for Sins to get) and you'll be good as dead.0 -
We don't even have our 79 skills or our demon/sage skills yet..0
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Okay this is where I find Sins laughable (as a Psychic) I'm in PK mode and three sins my lvl came up to kill me. I throw on Black Voodoo and then use Sandburst Blast, Then follow up with Glacial Shards 3/4 HP gone already. Finishing Touch? Aqua Cannon and BAM! Three sorry **** assassins drop dead. Now that's called Psychic POWER! (This actually happened too)[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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PsychicHarpy - Heavens Tear wrote: »Okay this is where I find Sins laughable (as a Psychic) I'm in PK mode and three sins my lvl came up to kill me. I throw on Black Voodoo and then use Sandburst Blast, Then follow up with Glacial Shards 3/4 HP gone already. Finishing Touch? Aqua Cannon and BAM! Three sorry **** assassins drop dead. Now that's called Psychic POWER! (This actually happened too)
Obviously they didn't have all of their skills either. If they are, then they failed to even stun or immobilize you.0 -
Lol they probly didn't but damn That was three aoe skills in like 3 secs (thanks to fast channeling)b:laughb:laughb:laughb:victory[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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this thread shouldn't have been started. now many sins will prolly QQ bout how OP wizzis are cause they can still hit us if we start too late with stealthing, lol0
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People people, firstly about the assassin being hit in stealth, this is true only if they started channeling b4 you went into stealth, so that is not op at all...
Just remember to use timing and skills wisely, we dont have deaden nerves for nothing.
O and if an arcane as a whole has enough time 2 attack you, you are doing something wrong as an assassin, nuff said[SIGPIC]http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b274/skyeuser/Whispercopy.jpg[/SIGPIC]
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OneHottShot - Heavens Tear wrote: »Lets say you start an aoe skill on a mob on a pvp server. If there is an assassin in stealth mode you will hit him if he is in range. Same applies to your suggestion. If you start a skill, b/c of casting time the skill hasn't actually hit the sin before he goes invisible. Therefore when you finally cast (for wizards, a year later) unless the sin has moved out of your range for that skill he will still be hit. You never moved your target, that is why.
Stealth mode is for it to be hard for you to find/see the assassin, not so that he is invincible like so many ppl think.
But what assassin goes direrctly in stealth mode? Anyway i alway just do shadow jump, Silence, and the sleep then stealth and it always works... expect if the person you're killing can resist it, then it gets little bit more complecated^^
Note this does not work on Venomaners they frigging PWN!!!! XD0 -
We doooo have interrupt skills for those bajillionyearstochannel skills...[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0
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Isala - Sanctuary wrote: »Melee classes have the least to worry about from Sins, though, as any sin trying to poke a Melee class will be WTFPWNed anyway. Such a happy thought... A sin poking an angry barb. b:chuckle
lol
i've taken down plenty of angry barbs with my sin. b:thanks0 -
Adael - Harshlands wrote: »lol
i've taken down plenty of angry barbs with my sin. b:thanks
level 30 barbs dont count0 -
if the wiz is far away..
shadow teleport = teleport and stun
otherwise you can
headhunt = stun
deep sting = sleep
or throatcut = interrupt channeling + silence
i am an assassin, and i am not afraid of your strongest magiks0 -
its all in the player, i've killed barbs 7 lvls higher than me, gotten killed by barbs many levels lower than me, killed archers about 20 levels higher than me... it all depends on the player (the archer didn't knwo what to expect, we later re-dueled and he beat me down)MiStAiSa - Sanctuary wrote: »level 30 barbs dont count0 -
PsychicHarpy - Heavens Tear wrote: »Okay this is where I find Sins laughable (as a Psychic) I'm in PK mode and three sins my lvl came up to kill me. I throw on Black Voodoo and then use Sandburst Blast, Then follow up with Glacial Shards 3/4 HP gone already. Finishing Touch? Aqua Cannon and BAM! Three sorry **** assassins drop dead. Now that's called Psychic POWER! (This actually happened too)
I only execute two moves in TWs.
Step 1 : Stealth.
Step 2 : Run up to a mage/psychic/cleric/archer/veno
Lv 5 Headhunt ( w/ maxed Chill of the Dephts ) -> Crit 3.2k -> 1 hit kill.
And even if they managed to survive the first hit, they'd probably die by Rib Strike as the next incoming attack.0
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