I used to love this game

Jack - Raging Tide
Jack - Raging Tide Posts: 18 Arc User
edited January 2010 in General Discussion
Like it says i used to love this game. I recommended it to my friends as a game where you didn't need to spend hundreds of dollars to be the best, cause everything in cash shop didn't effect game-play. It was just fun stuff nothing you actually needed. Personally i was happy when you took anni packs out but now you have this coral thing in, and come on why didn't you just put anni packs out they are the same thing. I can still play this game without the cash shop, and i plan on doing so. However you should know i will never recommend this game to anyone ever again.

anyway that's my QQ
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  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    , and .

    That is all.
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Like it says i used to love this game. I recommended it to my friends as a game where you didn't need to spend hundreds of dollars to be the best, cause everything in cash shop didn't effect game-play. It was just fun stuff nothing you actually needed. Personally i was happy when you took anni packs out but now you have this coral thing in, and come on why didn't you just put anni packs out they are the same thing. I can still play this game without the cash shop, and i plan on doing so. However you should know i will never recommend this game to anyone ever again.

    anyway that's my QQ

    I agree 100%.

    As a casual cash shopper, there is no point for me to spend money anymore, they're catering to the people who spend $500-$1000 a month now. Basically if you don't spend any money in this game, there is no real point to play anymore.
  • Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear
    Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    *sigh*... here we go again.
    Another wave of PWi whinners over nothing b:irritated
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    genuinely considering quitting now
  • Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear
    Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    genuinely considering quitting now

    b:bye... forget to write.
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    b:bye... forget to write.

    i been here since the game opened, so you can shut you face if you think i dont know whats what ty :)
  • Aquagirl - Raging Tide
    Aquagirl - Raging Tide Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    yeah, most of the ppl that played in the beginning , when there was no BH and Nirvana and all that bulls to lvl , and they farmed their a$$ off for OHT hat/boots reward are either left or thinking at quitting.
    This is not the same game they started back then. If it's better or worse I don't know, but for sure it changed, and it changed to the point where skill doesn't matter anymore. All that matter is how much gold one has.
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i been here since the game opened, so you can shut you face if you think i dont know whats what ty :)

    As have I basically.

    But I am not torn by this whole issue. I do see why many people are though. Hard work to get so far and then the game changes drastically to make it 100 times easier for the new crowd.

    I just ignore all that and focus on my faction and making it better for all the new people.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    All that matter is how much gold one has.
    :[[[
    boo
    hoo
  • FranzKafka - Dreamweaver
    FranzKafka - Dreamweaver Posts: 345 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    *sigh*... here we go again.
    Another wave of PWi whinners over nothing b:irritated

    If PWE became nothing then yes whinning over nothing.
  • Zoe - Heavens Tear
    Zoe - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,814 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I don't even log on to PWI anymore. I don't have the recent update either. I just don't see the point anymore.
    Main characters
    Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
    Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I don't even log on to PWI anymore. I don't have the recent update either. I just don't see the point anymore.

    im getting to feel that way.

    i could have spent a year doing other things, joined this game yesterday and have exactly the same stuff i have now. how is that right?
  • BarbHammer - Heavens Tear
    BarbHammer - Heavens Tear Posts: 215 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    A faction mate of mine bought $1000 worth of anni packs and now is asking me what the prices to sell everything at. I just ignored her and not dealing with the noobtastic people in the game anymore. I grind by myself now, since all the people I used to grind with are in the 90's now thanks to oracles. Yes this game has really went down hill since I started. Which I been here for nearly a year now, and I enjoyed working hard for my gear, still do. I will never recommend the game to anyone else, I tell them to invest in a game that's actually balanced and worth the time and effort. Here you either have to be on 24/7 or a cash shopper to get ahead in the game. Since I could care less I play other games before I open this one up, this is more of my break game. I break from another game to play this then back to the other.

    Yes, I am bored, that is why it's so damn long.
    I do as the Romans do, I wash my hands of thee.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    its a pain tho when your fact is spamming "ohh wow look at this uber belt/helm etc that i just got" and you sitting there going, "fk.. i actually play this game and work hard, wheres my rewards?"

    There is nothing left to farm that you can't buy in the cash shop, which is kinda wrong. There should be something unobtainable by spending money, and this last pack came out with Nirvana crystals way too soon.

    As a casual cash shopper, there is no point for me to spend money anymore, they're catering to the people who spend $500-$1000 a month now. Basically if you don't spend any money in this game, there is no real point to play anymore.
    I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
  • Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary
    Herne_Hunter - Sanctuary Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i know anni packs were frustrating so are the coral packs, i also accept that ppl getting ubber gear with RL cash where as we work our a$$ out to get the same. Yeah it feels sad when i cant have a particular *EVENT* gear, which a yesterday oracle noob has.

    but even going through all this i do realize that still, still Skill > high end gear. I get random PM's from newbie wizzies all through out the day asking this or that bout built, skills and combo, something which RL money couldn't provide. I can still do massive damage, though i checked myself in duels and i was satisfied, am not a huge PK freak and i dont do TW anymore so cant comment on that, but yeah as to where my satisfaction goes yeah skill> high end gear a lot, particularly at this lvl. And not to mention that am still slowly making money and gathering my event stuff too and that too not through RL cash but doing TT selling buying stuff farming herbs harvesting stuff and what not, just the only thing i feel sad bout is noobs getting the stuff before me. This is also a huge positive point for me cause they keep on experimenting with event gears and i can get an update of which is better and in what way. At the end of the day i keep on with my regular gaming the way i used to do it the first day i started playing the game.


    But also i don't think i would refer anyone to pwi anymore .....
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


    I want to go back to the time when innocence was Natural, getting high meant, on a swing. Drinking meant lemonade. Dad was the only Hero. Love was Mom's hug. Dad's shoulder was the highest place on earth. Worst enemies were siblings.
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    Life has changed a lot ....

    Hasn't it .. ?? ..b:sad
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    As have I basically.

    But I am not torn by this whole issue. I do see why many people are though. Hard work to get so far and then the game changes drastically to make it 100 times easier for the new crowd.

    I just ignore all that and focus on my faction and making it better for all the new people.

    If you were here since the beginning of the game... and your still level 8x... then you haven't really work hard... or at all. I am talking about the people who got their levels without bh, ff, and marriage quests. The only thing we have is zhen (which is ****ing tiring on the fingers if your a lurer) and trying to figure out how the whole rb thing works. And we spent weeks farming tt for that drop that we need with **** up drop rates. And f-ing months in cube getting 0-20 chips per day to save up for that lunar weapon (btw... cost 4k chips).
    What did we get to show for all of this. Some dollar pack that gives gear that make our armor (which took us weeks of hard work) look like ****. And weapon that make our hard earned weapon look like a pea shooter.
    I too started the game around the beginning... which means I started around the same time as you. And I reached your current level in roughly 4 months. So yea... obvious your not "torn up" over it cause you didn't work for it.

    I used to refer pwi to my friends. But honestly, can they really expect me to refer anyone after all this. But I guess I should be grateful that they have the courtesy to call it rain when they pee on us.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

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  • Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear
    Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Excuse me.... but do i understand right that you are jealous over PIXELS????

    If yes then you are really need professional help, and please if you decide to quit then do this and do not sit here on this forum crying how everything on this game is fail because i saw many "I AM QUITTING" threads in the past and SO FAR all those QQ quiters are still here.

    There are bigger tragedies on this world <see news from Haiti> as making huge drama over fact that player "IAmSoGodlyMachoNoobPwner" have 20 star PIXEL GEAR because that is just silly...

    And to end go ahead and find F2P game WITHOUT CS implemented... trust me you do not find a single game free from CS influence.
  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i know anni packs were frustrating so are the coral packs, i also accept that ppl getting ubber gear with RL cash where as we work our a$$ out to get the same. Yeah it feels sad when i cant have a particular *EVENT* gear, which a yesterday oracle noob has.

    but even going through all this i do realize that still, still Skill > high end gear. I get random PM's from newbie wizzies all through out the day asking this or that bout built, skills and combo, something which RL money couldn't provide. I can still do massive damage, though i checked myself in duels and i was satisfied, am not a huge PK freak and i dont do TW anymore so cant comment on that, but yeah as to where my satisfaction goes yeah skill> high end gear a lot, particularly at this lvl. And not to mention that am still slowly making money and gathering my event stuff too and that too not through RL cash but doing TT selling buying stuff farming herbs harvesting stuff and what not, just the only thing i feel sad bout is noobs getting the stuff before me. This is also a huge positive point for me cause they keep on experimenting with event gears and i can get an update of which is better and in what way. At the end of the day i keep on with my regular gaming the way i used to do it the first day i started playing the game.


    But also i don't think i would refer anyone to pwi anymore .....

    who actually does anything that requires skill anymore? there all buys cat shoppin, doin their bh's and cs

    skill may pwn gear but skill isnt involved anymore to play lol
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    There is nothing left to farm that you can't buy in the cash shop, which is kinda wrong. There should be something unobtainable by spending money, and this last pack came out with Nirvana crystals way too soon.

    ^ This 100%

    I am not 100% opposed to Packs...More so because I love tokens. But to release Nirvana (one Rapture Pack = 50 Raptures)whats the point? Some of us have been spam farming it the legit way and now those who charge an insane amount can get these epic end-game gears with no effort.

    Why release this instance in the first place is my question?
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you were here since the beginning of the game... and your still level 8x... then you haven't really work hard... or at all. I am talking about the people who got their levels without bh, ff, and marriage quests. The only thing we have is zhen (which is ****ing tiring on the fingers if your a lurer) and trying to figure out how the whole rb thing works. And we spent weeks farming tt for that drop that we need with **** up drop rates. And f-ing months in cube getting 0-20 chips per day to save up for that lunar weapon (btw... cost 4k chips).
    What did we get to show for all of this. Some dollar pack that gives gear that make our armor (which took us weeks of hard work) look like ****. And weapon that make our hard earned weapon look like a pea shooter.
    I too started the game around the beginning... which means I started around the same time as you. And I reached your current level in roughly 4 months. So yea... obvious your not "torn up" over it cause you didn't work for it.

    Glad seeing my level you think you can make judgement. I have multiple characters rolled on multiple servers.

    I also started a family which I took a break on to do.

    Your judgement attitude is what makes the other people tell you to stop QQing over.

    I agreed with you you dumb apple on why I considered how tough it was for you.

    You take your lvl 1xx and QQ some more. I feel bad for most but I can scratch your name off the list.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Faith_z - Sanctuary
    Faith_z - Sanctuary Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I started this game before anni packs too, before bh, when gold prices were low etc etc.
    (and before people go ohh i worked harder cause im higher level, yes i had crappy internet so couldonly play limited in my starting time on pwi, and i stayed the same lvl for months cause i wanted to beat rebirth alpha, now who worked harder? Dont judge on lvl, judge on skills, if you been here that long you should at least have learned that much)

    I still play pwi with fun, i have good friends, i help noobs, work for my gear, farm my own mats etc etc.
    Though i understand for some people all the packs and such are a pain in the **** and a possible reason to leave the game, see it as i do:
    You got your gear from hard work, you have gotten this far in this game cause of hard work, who cares if people that dont know how to play their caracter buy end game gear, it will only make you stand out in the crowd and be loved because you DO know how to play your caracter.

    This game, as any game, should be about fun. Fun with friends, fun achieving YOUR goals. To everyone out there that started this game before all the packs etc: I respect you for coming this far without rl money, packs etc, great job! Dont let that be ruined by cash shoppers, cause as i said, you will stand out for your skills and knowledge and be more valuable to this game and the players that want to actually achieve something theirselves.
    My caracters:
    Faith_z - 7x Cleric (main)
    HaveFaith_z - 5x Veno
    Ivory_Soul -3x Psychic

    Dont give me an attitude, I got one of my own!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Saitadatude FTW :P
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ^ This 100%

    I am not 100% opposed to Packs...More so because I love tokens. But to release Nirvana (one Rapture Pack = 50 Raptures)whats the point? Some of us have been spam farming it the legit way and now those who charge an insane amount can get these epic end-game gears with no effort.

    Why release this instance in the first place is my question?

    Someone in Kami just bought a Rapture Chest for 25m. So far he has over 120 Rapture Crystals.

    To get 50 Crystals, you'd have to do over 100 runs. We would have needed another 2 months of running Nirvana before having enough to craft Just 1. Expect to see the first Nirvana weapon sometime tonight I imagine. :<
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    However you should know i will never recommend this game to anyone ever again.
    \ I will never recommend the game to anyone else, I tell them to invest in a game that's actually balanced and worth the time and effort.\
    But also i don't think i would refer anyone to pwi anymore .....
    I used to refer pwi to my friends. But honestly, can they really expect me to refer anyone after all this.

    gotta love it when developers destroy their own game.. Such a pitty, it really had potential
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Someone in Kami just bought a Rapture Chest for 25m. So far he has over 120 Rapture Crystals.

    To get 50 Crystals, you'd have to do over 100 runs. We would have needed another 2 months of running Nirvana before having enough to craft Just 1. Expect to see the first Nirvana weapon sometime tonight I imagine. :<

    Not surprised.

    Nothing seems to surprised me anymore. But putting Nirvana in packs shocked me, was the one thing I thought would be left. Hell, what else do high levels have to do? Seriously....

    I won't judge, but I have my opinions on that.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear
    Ardaanaa - Heavens Tear Posts: 46 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I have great idea.
    Let us ask PWi staff for start a new server based on Closed beta client without every updates adding since that time...

    Gold will cost 50k coins each and in cash shop for that server only will be just basic clotches and some junky stuff so reaching lvl 80 will take year but everyone will be equal because they will depend on thier skills and gathered resources if they will want to make good gear...

    IS this what you all whinners want????
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ^ This 100%

    I am not 100% opposed to Packs...More so because I love tokens. But to release Nirvana (one Rapture Pack = 50 Raptures)whats the point? Some of us have been spam farming it the legit way and now those who charge an insane amount can get these epic end-game gears with no effort.

    Why release this instance in the first place is my question?

    LOL... this is why I only went to nirvana once and only once. Cause i know that recast stones will come out in the cs sooner or later. But damn... this is a lot sooner then I expected. Even then, i assume 1 pack would hold 1 crystal. 50 is just pushing it.
    Glad seeing my level you think you can make judgement. I have multiple characters rolled on multiple servers.

    I also started a family which I took a break on to do.

    Your judgement attitude is what makes the other people tell you to stop QQing over.

    I agreed with you you dumb apple on why I considered how tough it was for you.

    You take your lvl 1xx and QQ some more. I feel bad for most but I can scratch your name off the list.

    Of course... if I see you with a level 1 character... i'll treat you like the level 1 that you are. How tough it was for me? I actually had it easy... considering that I am not one of those few who level before me. I think I was 9x when the first 1xx made their appearance. Yea... those are the ones that had it hard... not me.
    Ever since the packs came out, I did not spend a single dollar on the game anymore. But I still got my weap/ring/cape/shoes. Do I like those gear? Hell yea I do... but that doesn't make it any better. There is no point of doing anything in the game anymore. I literally see people get on and just sit there asking if anyone is doing anything. Seriously... whats the point of playing the game when you just going to sit there and hope something comes along.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ^ This 100%

    I am not 100% opposed to Packs...More so because I love tokens. But to release Nirvana (one Rapture Pack = 50 Raptures)whats the point? Some of us have been spam farming it the legit way and now those who charge an insane amount can get these epic end-game gears with no effort.

    Why release this instance in the first place is my question?

    ugh they've already been doing this, what makes you think Nirvana would be any different?

    look at what they did to lunar, past gear (they're not event boots or event helms, they're boots and helms you would've had to farm past maps for), etc etc.

    i just think they should make these items not have such a huge farm requirement in-game if they're going to troll everyone with releases like this.
    Elena Costel: I wash my hands of this affair.
    Legerity: *drags you back* *stains your hands with said affair*
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    Qui: b:dirty
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ugh they've already been doing this, what makes you think Nirvana would be any different?

    look at what they did to lunar, past gear (they're not event boots or event helms, they're boots and helms you would've had to farm past maps for), etc etc

    i just think they should make these items not have such a huge farm requirement in-game if they're going to troll everyone with releases like this.

    The difference is --->

    100+ only can enter...gave us something to do

    and

    It has only been out a short time, where as the other instances were not farmed as much sue to more then a few reasons.



    HOWEVER....I agree with you on your last sentence. The might as well have let us buy the upgrades from the beginning.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    RoidAbuse is awesome, only he would sell his sperm for gear!!

    "Toughest monster? ..... RedsRose b:surrender" - Kantorek
    Where is my 1 v 1 Kan? b:mischievous
  • Nexdonum - Lost City
    Nexdonum - Lost City Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    woo yey

    i been playing this game since sept 08, and someone who just joined yesterday has already been to / and acquired a nirvana wep, and i still cant even enter.

    see how fked up that sounds?




    Lol, sounds? Seeing how ****ed up this is, is more like it.


    The sad thing about it all is, is that it shows that the devs have more consideration for how fat their wallets get, rather than how thin ours' gets. Overly greedy is such an understatement describing them, it's ridiculous. How would someone put it, 'their greed, is OVER 9000!!!'.


    b:sad
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  • Mochii - Heavens Tear
    Mochii - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Excuse me.... but do i understand right that you are jealous over PIXELS????

    If yes then you are really need professional help, and please if you decide to quit then do this and do not sit here on this forum crying how everything on this game is fail because i saw many "I AM QUITTING" threads in the past and SO FAR all those QQ quiters are still here.

    There are bigger tragedies on this world <see news from Haiti> as making huge drama over fact that player "IAmSoGodlyMachoNoobPwner" have 20 star PIXEL GEAR because that is just silly...

    And to end go ahead and find F2P game WITHOUT CS implemented... trust me you do not find a single game free from CS influence.

    I think your post, out of the entire thread is the one that what makes sense to me the most. I read over people's posts and I think to myself "Wow, why are they so intense?"

    I too agree, the simplest solution to their growing "dislike" to the game is to just LEAVE and stop playing. Easy as that. Nothing more, nothing less.

    For the people sit around and complain (even when they claim the game isn't worth it anymore), you know the real reason is because they can't quit. They might be more wrapped up in the game than said "noobs" who buy their way up.
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