General Wurlord

Bardolph - Harshlands
Bardolph - Harshlands Posts: 111 Arc User
edited February 2010 in Dungeons & Tactics
Can anyone give any advice on tanking this guy? I've tanked him succesfully roughly 5-7 times, but I've also failed quite a bit.

His magic hits like a truck, but that's no real problem as soon as I've got my Alacrity timing covered.

My main problem with this boss is 'catching' him when the veno lures, without getting the veno killed. Usually, he's passed me before Flesh Ream has the time to channel. Also, what should I do on the first hit? Alacrity to make sure his magic is cancelled or Flesh Ream to make sure I got his aggro? If his magic hits me once, he takes out 60-80 percent of my HP... I usually have to use Invoke, Solid Shield, or ToP at this point.

Getting Alpha Male on my genie seems like a good solution, would it not be that my genie needs to level 13 times before it has enough affinity points...
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  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Flesh rream to take the aggro

    place alacrity when you see him begin casting..

    invoke whenever you can, it gives time for the cleric to heal/ purify, catch his breath

    for the veno, tell her to buy bramble hood.

    Chose equipements with more +vit bonus , good weapons ...
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    getting solo healed trough wurlord is very very hard ussally 1 cleric BBs during him to this should cut his damage far enough also on the catching problem have the cleric BB before wurlord is lured the healing agro ussaly catches wurlord and the average cleric has no problem surviving 1-2 hits under BB or just have veno use bramble hood as stated before

    but wurlord is stil very doable with no BB and 2 clerics spam healing you as long as you have enough

    if you wanna do him solo healed with no BB then solid shield,invoke combined with a hp charm and/or event food are your best chances

    these advices are given soley on my personal experience and assumptions that the whole squad is average geared and all in the lower 7x range
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Catching.. hmm, if you can survive in humanoid, start with a onslaught. Or.. just get a veno that can bramble + foxform.
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  • Bardolph - Harshlands
    Bardolph - Harshlands Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I usually have no problem keeping my chi stable, but actually building it up during a boss fight is hard... I don't want to risk losing aggro. Not to brag, but my equipment is excellent, that's not the problem.

    However, it now becomes clear why it was so hard beating him, thanks for your advice. We were doing it with a single cleric, and I was uncharmed and didn't have any pots (usually don't need them). I'll be prepared next time we do Wurlord.
  • Astoru - Heavens Tear
    Astoru - Heavens Tear Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Two clerics and a lot of HP. Yeah, simple answer, but that's what it takes.

    I've had to lure him a few times, so I'm fully aware of how hard he hits b:surrender
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  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I usually have no problem keeping my chi stable, but actually building it up during a boss fight is hard... I don't want to risk losing aggro. Not to brag, but my equipment is excellent, that's not the problem.

    However, it now becomes clear why it was so hard beating him, thanks for your advice. We were doing it with a single cleric, and I was uncharmed and didn't have any pots (usually don't need them). I'll be prepared next time we do Wurlord.

    veno can give u 1spark(demon version sometimes 2) per minute with lending hand...
    just tell the veno when you need it...
    last time we did wurlord decent lv80+ cleric...
    no bubble...
    just 3veno constantly sending chi to the barb...
    the barbs charm didn't even ticked...b:shocked
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Try tanking it as a cleric b:surrender

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  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited January 2010
    Use genie canceling skills? And have the veno get canceling skills for their pets. Have the veno/wiz spam accuracy debuffs too.
  • /NiKi - Lost City
    /NiKi - Lost City Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Can anyone give any advice on tanking this guy? I've tanked him succesfully roughly 5-7 times, but I've also failed quite a bit.

    His magic hits like a truck, but that's no real problem as soon as I've got my Alacrity timing covered.

    My main problem with this boss is 'catching' him when the veno lures, without getting the veno killed. Usually, he's passed me before Flesh Ream has the time to channel. Also, what should I do on the first hit? Alacrity to make sure his magic is cancelled or Flesh Ream to make sure I got his aggro? If his magic hits me once, he takes out 60-80 percent of my HP... I usually have to use Invoke, Solid Shield, or ToP at this point.

    Getting Alpha Male on my genie seems like a good solution, would it not be that my genie needs to level 13 times before it has enough affinity points...

    if u get 2 clerics,one to bb and one to heal probably wont fail anymore.
    and tell veno to use hood and fox form,should be able to handle one or two hits like that
  • NPH - Harshlands
    NPH - Harshlands Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    This guy is considerably easier with 2 clerics. When I've tanked him, his magic without BB did rougly 5-8k damage, with it, average of 3k, which helps a ton.
  • drjiggle
    drjiggle Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I've seen people use genie skills (not sure which) to catch him, and I've also seen people use a BM stun as a backup in case the barbarian misses him. Otherwise, what other people have said:
    • Blue bubble helps considerably on survival, but make sure the cleric doesn't grab heal aggro before you catch him.
    • Bestial onslaught if you can survive that first hit in human form.
    • The venomancer needs to be prepared to be hit once on any pull, especially Warlord. It shouldn't happen often, but it will from time to time, and it's part of your job to be ready for it.
  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    drjiggle wrote: »
    I've seen people use genie skills (not sure which) to catch him, and I've also seen people use a BM stun as a backup in case the barbarian misses him. Otherwise, what other people have said:
    • Blue bubble helps considerably on survival, but make sure the cleric doesn't grab heal aggro before you catch him.
    • Bestial onslaught if you can survive that first hit in human form.
    • The venomancer needs to be prepared to be hit once on any pull, especially Warlord. It shouldn't happen often, but it will from time to time, and it's part of your job to be ready for it.

    actually clerics ussaly get hit once by heal agro when BBing and they ussaly have no problem surviving that hit at all(same for venos if they stay in BB range) so i dunno what you are talking about and beastial onslaught is like the worst advice ever if you are gonna use something to stop him it will be a genie skil nothing else
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  • Toad - Lost City
    Toad - Lost City Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I usually wait for veno to get close to catch him with flesh ream, then i use alacrity right away.With the veno using hood, he should have no problem taking one or 2 shots from forshura without ticking charm and with lvl8 alacrity, i have perfect timing.
    i have tanked him with my alt barb and i never had a problem keeping full chi at all time and i spam flesh ream everytime it finishes cooldown. After the initial flesh ream, i use devour, roar and then flesh ream again to keep agro just in case someone in party decides to spark and i do this everytime roar finishes cooldown so my chi is still full. With using alacrity for chi and using beastial rage everytime i can, u should have full chi the whole time and if your alacrity is timed off, you can get earthquake on your genie skill to cancel that fire dmg.
  • Basingeth - Lost City
    Basingeth - Lost City Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I usually wait for veno to get close to catch him with flesh ream, then i use alacrity right away.With the veno using hood, he should have no problem taking one or 2 shots from forshura without ticking charm and with lvl8 alacrity, i have perfect timing.
    i have tanked him with my alt barb and i never had a problem keeping full chi at all time and i spam flesh ream everytime it finishes cooldown. After the initial flesh ream, i use devour, roar and then flesh ream again to keep agro just in case someone in party decides to spark and i do this everytime roar finishes cooldown so my chi is still full. With using alacrity for chi and using beastial rage everytime i can, u should have full chi the whole time and if your alacrity is timed off, you can get earthquake on your genie skill to cancel that fire dmg.

    Don't use roar that often. Roar resets aggro. Fleshream and devour stack it.
  • Redmenace - Heavens Tear
    Redmenace - Heavens Tear Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    All of the above, adding;

    * I have a genie with it's stock *poke* that usually "catches" the boss as he tries to run by, so I can grab him with FleshReam.

    * Same genie has Cloud Eruption, stacked for strength, so when I fire it I get 1 3/4 sparks - most of the time keeps me in chi.

    * Once his magic attack has gone off, there are 3 skills i can fire off, then alacrity and that lines up with when he casts. Sometimes takes me a couple of casts to get the timing right, but after that it's easy enough to cancel him out. That's the hit that smacks me the hardest.

    If you can reliably cancel his magic attack, I can usually live with 1 cleric and BB to tank him. I prefer IH, tho.

    And now that you can see his HP amount, it's easier to figure out which one is the boss now.

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  • Kephras - Heavens Tear
    Kephras - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,472 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Red beat me to it. Xtreme Poison is my usual catching skill, timed so that FR hits about the moment they stop. If Wurlord stops too far away and starts channeling, it's in your hands whether to cancel or FR him first (I'd cancel, personally, but as it's not an aggro skill that can end badly if the party starts in on him too quick).
    The barb/bm-only genie 'nuke' (can't recall name) can also work. The magic shield it puts up will minimize damage somewhat, letting you prioritize FR - if he's casting and there's still time, cancel him immediately after of course.
  • Mivi - Lost City
    Mivi - Lost City Posts: 112 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    the last time in hh when a ppl use extreme poison to lure wurlod, him and his clones make a party grille' with us
  • X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear
    X_trigger_X - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,301 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Tanking this from 2-2 onwards with just 1 cleric is a pain >.<

    But yeah, veno lures, I catch with genie skill, usually alpha pale. Start with alacrity and continue it every 9-10 secs to stop his magic attacks. Mix in flesh ream, devour, and beastial rage. Shud be a breeze.

    If he's hitting you hard or something happens to a cleric, just turtle his ****, and gain chi while keeping aggro. Solid shield helps here.

    I use frighten to reduce his p.att, -30% attack is good...As for roar, I NEVER use it on bosses unless mobs have been aggroed too.
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    have a BM catch with myriad sword stance and take off of him/her

    seriously with BB MSS and maq marrow his spell will hit like 1.5k or so

    *wondering why nobody has mentioned this before*
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  • Seamuss - Heavens Tear
    Seamuss - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I have found my life so much easier since I started to genie lure Wurlord. It has never gone wrong yet,but make no mistake..I <3 venos. I just prefer this method because it alows me to position him where I want him(so I,m in BB ) and takes the pressure of 'the catch' off me..and the veno. I figure if I'm going to use a genie skill,might as well pull with it as catch with it.
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