Farming Routes Reserved?

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  • Seika_Chi - Dreamweaver
    Seika_Chi - Dreamweaver Posts: 109 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i bet the person wouldn't have complained if he hadn't seen you mine itb:surrender, just a tut, but whats the difference ^^; ... first there get first finish, but its sad when ur char had target and stop to mine and milisecs after get message "item is being used" xD happens to me all the time, but bah go another route and come back
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  • DraukaGrissa - Sanctuary
    DraukaGrissa - Sanctuary Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    eatwithspoons wrote: »
    This is something that has been discussed a lot recently. Everyone has their own opinion on the sort of game conduct that they expect, and not everyone can be right.

    While we encourage you to be considerate of others, in situations like this where you had no intent to harm the other user it's simply a dispute over
    something that neither of you own. Mats are first come first serve.

    Well said and I agree completely.

    I have several routes that I run depending on what mats I need at the time. I am quite good at timing it so I'm there almost to the second a mat re-spawns. There are times when a mob or two messes with the timing and I'm off, letting someone else get it ahead of Me.

    Ya know what? Big deal. I move on to the next. They'll re-spawn...the supply is endless. Other "greedy" people need to think about that. You'll get your timing again and recover the route.

    The mats don't "belong" to anyone except maybe in the case of farming it has been interrupted by catching aggro from a mob.
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  • Ceshiari - Sanctuary
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary Posts: 757 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    its definately a free for all out there! b:shocked Farming for mats is becoming a dangerous sport for all!
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ceshiari - Sanctuary wrote: »
    its definately a free for all out there! b:shocked Farming for mats is becoming a dangerous sport for all!

    danger?
    from other players?
    in a PvE server?
    lol!
    xD
    what is they going to do?
    fly after me?
    b:chuckle

    although me suppose since you can't just kill off teh competition it be a bit harder.
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    vbarbie wrote: »
    Edit: ANd by the way Hamsta, theres enuff trash already been writen in these forums and it's extremely hard already on picking what to read and what not to.. For you to have such ridiculious nonsense Spam BS as signature.. with every lame reply you make.
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  • wtvdie
    wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Well, im currently in the dominating faction of the server, the person threatened me saying he knew someone in my faction. someone lower lvl than me. for the most part, i was confused at how this was even a threat. LOL
  • Apocalyptart - Lost City
    Apocalyptart - Lost City Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    lol i never used to fight for mats but then ppl started to pk me and sleep me and it seemed to work lol so now i do that too so now i sleep them or seal them =P i also have another secret to make sure i get the route =D

    u have to start a pk fight it dosent matter if they are higher lvl than u or if u die because by the time you die or kill them the mats are already out and when u go to town and you go to the mat it will already be there and the mats will start to spawn at your rate and not the other person well hope that helps it seems to work for me all the time xD and i know its kinda stupid to fight over mats but its the only way i make money since i dont use a credit card or pwi pre paid cards lol
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The other day I was traveling near Etherblade with one of my lower level alts and stopped to dig a sandstone mine. When I was almost done digging someone ran up to me and started yelling that I was stealing from the lower levels and that anyone higher level that took mines near the starting cities was a thief. To which I replied that if I needed low level mats, the obvious place to get them is in a low level area. This starting him ranting about how I was still a thief because some low level mats spawned in 30+ areas and that I should give the mat to him. I blacklisted him and moved on.

    But seriously... it was one mat. This guy is going to have a breakdown when he gets to the level where the mats he needs are constantly being farmed.
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  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    this thread remembers from way back when i was 5x and questing or grinding around tusk town(no bh back then) and i toke a mid mat this girl start shouting at me it were her mat mines and that i should have waited with farming them cause she was nearly done with farming the mats then i said mats were free for all no matter what and she came up with all kinds off stupid arguments which i ignored since i dont see that i did do anything wrong
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    You can blacklist people on the forums. Just click on their name, click on User Lists, and select Add to Ignore List

    Off-topic: Oh wow, my thanx for this information.
  • shammahbenjudah
    shammahbenjudah Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    wtvdie wrote: »
    they wont do that. mats are for sale for real money also.

    That's exactly the point.

    Since the modification to the Bounty Hunter quests, the demand for these mats to make wines has increased exponentially. But the already minimal supply remains unchanged. Well, not completely unchanged...coincidentally, these mats just happen to be featured 'on sale' this week. b:cold

    Since there are actually people (I know its hard to believe, but its true) who have a real life and have jobs and familys to support and so on the incredible amount of time it takes now to gather these wine, crafting and US mats will change the amount of time they actually get to enjoy playing the game. Add to that the increased tension between everybody and his 10 cousins who are crawling the farm sites and it makes the alternative of buying the mats much more attractive.

    But I'm sorry, that's a bit absurd to me. PWI has increased the demand for these mats dramatically, the least they could do is increase the supply in an equal ratio in game. I don't mind pressing the "O" key now and then but everyday...just to play the game?

    Good grief, I'd rather y'all went pay to play, its getting too bloody expensive to play for free.
  • maocchi
    maocchi Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Some factions have members that are nice enough to give free faction runs with mats that they farmed. The only way to counter this travesty of money grab is spirit of taking and giving. b:surrender

    It's hard to even do dailies for under 150k now.
  • Moog - Lost City
    Moog - Lost City Posts: 633 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    It's fun to camp mat routes, make a whole guild come out to kill you. Than tele to another mat route and do the same thing :D.
  • AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear
    AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I usually have no problem chain farming, I don't like to intrude on people's routes. If I see someone on a mat run, I go to a different route, or wait to farm later. Mutual respect world, you give others respect, and you'll get it back.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Mutual respect world, you give others respect, and you'll get it back.

    <_< where do you live? Id like to go live there.

    its usually: you give someone respect, then the person walks all over u
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    its usually: you give someone respect, then the person walks all over u
    I'd say it's more like:

    You: Excuse me, were you going to take that mat mine?
    Other: Ow wow, how polite. What a refreshing change. Thanks for asking. No I wasn't, feel free to take it.

    Meanwhile a 3rd person not privy to this conversation has come in and taken the mat.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Meanwhile a 3rd person not privy to this conversation has come in and taken the mat.

    xD i can picture it.
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    *waves goodbye with mat in hand

    **5 seconds later**

    Systems message: You have been kiled by Bowlinbob.
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  • Rastelin - Heavens Tear
    Rastelin - Heavens Tear Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If people get crazy like that I just ignore them. You can always go a different way on that same farming path. Other people need to farm too so I can't get all upset if there's people farming the along the same path as me.
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Tatuaje - Lost City wrote: »
    *waves goodbye with mat in hand

    **5 seconds later**

    Systems message: You have been kiled by Bowlinbob.

    i dun peekay non kos D:

    the most i do when farming is just sleep-pick mat- and fly away <_<
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bowlinbob - Lost City wrote: »
    i dun peekay non kos D:

    the most i do when farming is just sleep-pick mat- and fly away <_<

    I know, you just stalk me on my WQ. b:chuckle

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  • AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear
    AngleSnipe - Heavens Tear Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Haha I can imagine, 2 rednames see a refined steel mine, and pew pew each other over it b:laugh
  • JFourier - Heavens Tear
    JFourier - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vinat - Sanctuary wrote: »
    if somebodys killing something right next to a mat spawn, you should ask them if they plan on digging it before you help yourself to it.

    and if you see someone en route to a mat that you only just noticed, and you decided to use holy path, or outrun them on a mount, that's a cheap trick.


    I completely agree with these 2 statements. If you kill the mobs guarding a mat you should get first crack at the mat. I have successfully killed the mat hunters by letting the mobs go while they are harving before, very satisfying :)

    Also, racing to a mat when you know someone else is almost there, just plain rude.
  • Davitiel - Heavens Tear
    Davitiel - Heavens Tear Posts: 978 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hmm, once I wanted to farm a mat but there were 2 monsters covering it. I started to attack the first one and just when I was finishing another person starts killing the second one. I collected the mat while the other person was fighting the other mob. I guess it was mine since I was there first.

    Obviously if I see someone killing a mob next to a mat I dont pick it up, but the general rule is:
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  • wtvdie
    wtvdie Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Davitiel - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Hmm, once I wanted to farm a mat but there were 2 monsters covering it. I started to attack the first one and just when I was finishing another person starts killing the second one. I collected the mat while the other person was fighting the other mob. I guess it was mine since I was there first.

    Obviously if I see someone killing a mob next to a mat I dont pick it up, but the general rule is:
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    hmmm at that point, seal the other guy and let the mob kill him. lol
  • Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver
    Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Just keep on farming.... its just something higher lvls do to intimidate inexperienced lower lvls into running away.

    I don't think you can have him banned for doing that... but I would honestly just keep on farming those mats and ignore him, hell maybe start a PM flame-war with him just to keep him occupied while you farm the mats.
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  • DrunkWizard - Lost City
    DrunkWizard - Lost City Posts: 523 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    wtvdie wrote: »
    hmmm at that point, seal the other guy and let the mob kill him. lol

    sealing some1 to let a mob kill him is considered as harassment i believe which is bad b:shocked
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  • Davitiel - Heavens Tear
    Davitiel - Heavens Tear Posts: 978 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hehe, I'm in a PvE server so I can't do that except in PK mode and certain areas. I remeber he said "If you were in pk mode". b:chuckle
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  • XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver
    XanZerstorer - Dreamweaver Posts: 505 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mid-mats:
    Is it there? Yeah. (Okay. Actually most of the time, no, because they're farmed as hell, hehe)
    Do I need it? Yeah.
    Am I gonna grab it? HELL YEAH.

    Unless you're clearing a mob around to grab it yourself. Then go ahead, I'm not an ****. But if you do that to me, yeah, I might say something snarky in local chat.

    I used to farm on mat routes, from my 60's to my mid 80's. I've had routes taken over, but I just move either ahead, wait, or to another spot. I've never felt the need to PM people and tell 'em to GTFO my route... although when I'm tired or in an already bad mood and the same person is constantly after my butt (or on some distance anyways), yeah, I can react in an immature way. Happened about a week ago actually... but I did apologize. >_>;;; (I know, doesn't excuse the behavior...)
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  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    wtvdie wrote: »
    hmmm at that point, seal the other guy and let the mob kill him. lol
    DrunkWizard - Lost City wrote: »
    sealing some1 to let a mob kill him is considered as harassment i believe which is bad b:shocked

    It is considered greifing & exploiting. GMs already weighed in that using a mob to kill a player circumvents the normal allowed rules of PK, in that way it is exploiting the system. In addition, it costs them Experience, which is not a normal function of PK and as such is greifing/exploiting.

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