Fist/Axe and vitality

You don't really need to stick to 3/2 to be an effective fist/axe BM. You also don't really need to go multipath until much later. I know many people start using Calamity axes at late lvl7x's, at which point you'd only need 212 str and stick with it through their 8x's with minor refining. 3/2 build is just assuming you'll have no gear bonus. Going off track to put some points into vit won't ruin you.

Personally I put in a point of vit every 2 levels until I had 40 base vit. From there I went with 3/2 and sometimes 2/3. If you choose your gears carefully, you'll have more than enough str to use axes of your level. So unless you plan on using only NPC bought armor, put in how much ever vit you feel is necessary, just not too much that you neglect your str/dex.

I'm personally at 3 vit and I have 7.7k hp unbuffed. I have decent refines, pretty much the more money you can spend on refines the less vit you need

Depends on gear tbh. For example if you had a dex +10 tome, there's 10 points you could easily add to vit.

A 5 str 4 dex 1 vit build also lets you use all weapon paths. If you miss out on a little str for axes just use a slightly lower level pair or scour a nice 3* equip with a str bonus or 2. A well refined pair of cala's can last you until 90 or even higher without too much problem.

DrkLordZ - Sanctuary wrote: »

For PvE, its better to use heavy vit up more. For PvE, Light Armor is ownage. Light armor fist/axe is a pain. They have no defense, reduce it down to 3 or just dont raise it at all. And they are b!tching DD's. STR + DEX = MORE DAMAGE. might have low def, but we can kill stuff fast. Fist for melee classes, and axe for those dam kiters. Use axe for sins, stealth be pain.

Terrible advice, don't ever go LA as a BM. Very simple put, add as much vit as you can realistically get dex/str from equip. For me that # ended up being 35, and it allows me to use fists/axes of my level after all my equip bonuses.

Maragon - Dreamweaver wrote: »

Thanks all for the input. I went fist as more of a fun character than anything else since it is 4th or 5th on the list of characters I play but I also want to be able to do things later on that a person with a main character bm would. I wasnt really planning on multi pathing too much until 6x after I do my 59 culti. Till then was just gonna focus on fist and lvl some necessary axe stuff. Because I have a higher lvl (67) barb I have one of every legendary axe/hammer from xeno thru calas (which are decent to answer someones post they are +3 with 2 immac garnets) so as far as that goes my damage will be ok with axe/hammer. my only thought was the str req. so

Is it feasible to get back the 35 points put into vit in a 5-4-1 build through str bonuses on gear to have the 212 str needed for calas at 70 or should i cap vit somewhere.

yes but finding the gear is a pain

and you cant use helm of aqua viciocness or tauran cape instead you'll need to find 3*'s with nice +str adds

It all depends on how determined you are to find good gear. On my BM on RT I have 50 base vit, another 55 vit from gear (only a level 71 bm atm), and I use calas and AoS, and around 77 or so I should be able to use dark flash. In my case I scoured the auction house every day looking for good vit gear so I could get a good amount of hp to do gamma soon as I hit 71, but obviously me having 105 vit after gear is a bit, excessive, shall we say. My point is it isn't hard to find well stated gear as long as you put in the time and effort to look around a little bit. IMO you don't even need to put points into vit if you can find some good vit gear (just a tip, get an account stash and two lvl 59 characters and viola you can have two of the lvl 59 tideborn chest rings), and it seems vit is more readily available than other stats more often than not.