Plz Fix Nirvana Weapons Craft

wnight
wnight Posts: 0 Arc User
edited January 2010 in General Discussion
Dear Mods ,
Please Fix Nirvana Weapons Craft since it's really ridicilous that all 3 different types of Weapons uses same 99 Gold Weapons. For Example in order to create Bow,XBow or Sling of Nirvana i need the SAME bow i won't ever use. Where is the logic behind that mess up ??? Sling = Bow as base material?????

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  • Sadpuma - Heavens Tear
    Sadpuma - Heavens Tear Posts: 286 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    There is nothing to fix....

    As described when Nirvana came out (if you read it), you are able to change the type of weapon you have as long as it is in the same class.

    As you described you can change bow to slingshot (dont know the others since im magic). But for magic users, you can start with a wand and get either a wand, magic sword, pataka, or glaive.

    It was made that way and the logic is sound imo. This allows you to really pick the type of weapon you want for your end-game gear instead of just pick a weapon type you may not like bc it has better additional stats.....
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  • Santacruz - Heavens Tear
    Santacruz - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,776 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    coz for once they have actually made it flexible, making it easier for everyone to get what they want instead of being rock hard.

    if you dont like it dont play
  • AlbireoTwo - Lost City
    AlbireoTwo - Lost City Posts: 2,056 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Wow, they made a bow from a slingshot? You got to be kidding me. It's like when my friend told me he saw wolves running around like humans, humans flying on swords, and gigantic monsters in caves. Not to mention when he thought he saw someone come back from the dead. I mean, where's the logic in that?
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  • aryannamage
    aryannamage Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Another point I have to say something to...

    It isn't us Mods!b:shocked

    It's the Devs!
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  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Biggest problem with Nirvana is that you loose ALL refines and sockets and shards when you upgrade.

    So if you have a lets say +10 weapon Neon Purgatory with 2 sockets and g11 shards in it, well than you loose everything. You will get a +0 weapon that also most likely will have 1 socket...enjoy farming guys.

    On the other official servers they have Chienkun Stone in cash shop, which allows you to keep stones and refines when you Nirvana upgrade. Obviously you need a huge amount of them, its not free but at least you get to keep refines and shards. Here they refuse to sell Chienkun Stone in cash shop, since they want us to +10 weapons all over again b:bye.

    250 Rapture Chrystals is worth over 1 bil ingame gold btw and you might not even get good stats. You can get MP +310 MP +310 MP +310 if unlucky. Only thing you're guaranteed is higher base dmg and a different look + loosing all refines and shards.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
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  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    Biggest problem with Nirvana is that you loose ALL refines and sockets and shards when you upgrade.

    So if you have a lets say +10 weapon Neon Purgatory with 2 sockets and g11 shards in it, well than you loose everything. You will get a +0 weapon that also most likely will have 1 socket...enjoy farming guys.

    On the other official servers they have Chienkun Stone in cash shop, which allows you to keep stones and refines when you Nirvana upgrade. Obviously you need a huge amount of them, its not free but at least you get to keep refines and shards. Here they refuse to sell Chienkun Stone in cash shop, since they want us to +10 weapons all over again b:bye.

    250 Rapture Chrystals is worth over 1 bil ingame gold btw and you might not even get good stats. You can get MP +310 MP +310 MP +310 if unlucky. Only thing you're guaranteed is higher base dmg and a different look + loosing all refines and shards.

    When they introduce nirvana the promise, that you can keep your refines. So I think these stones will come to cash shop soon.
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  • Lulznotwar - Lost City
    Lulznotwar - Lost City Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    Biggest problem with Nirvana is that you loose ALL refines and sockets and shards when you upgrade.

    So if you have a lets say +10 weapon Neon Purgatory with 2 sockets and g11 shards in it, well than you loose everything. You will get a +0 weapon that also most likely will have 1 socket...enjoy farming guys.

    Wrong.

    It is cheaper using the crystals to do that, however it is possible to upgrade the wep with keeping the refines and shards it just costs a lot more crystals b:pleased
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  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lulznotwar - Lost City wrote: »
    Wrong.

    It is cheaper using the crystals to do that, however it is possible to upgrade the wep with keeping the refines and shards it just costs a lot more crystals b:pleased

    Nope its not possible to keep the refines using more crystals. Im guesing you haven't tried so you possible cant know. Sadly there is no such option to bring more crystals to keep refines. I know this since people have made Nirvana gear already and guilds that farmed in group have enough crystals to craft as well.

    You need Chienkun Stone - if you dont have any you loose all refines. Option at Nirvana furnace is - Insert XXX amount of Chienkun Stone if you wanna keep refines. That is it.

    I guess thats not a huge problem if you upgrade armor only +7 or so. But if its a +10+12 weapon than you loose quite a lot of money.

    Also Chienkun Stone will never be realized in cash shop. Thats the answer the most active Nirvana farmers got after talking to GM.
  • Michael_Dark - Lost City
    Michael_Dark - Lost City Posts: 9,091 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Gasoline, actually Elayne got a different answer. Their original post stating that the management had no intention of bringing Chienkun stones to this version of PWI has changed to something along the lines of 'we're looking into it'. So the official stance doesn't seem like a straight no, but isn't really all that much different... From the patch notes, it says that they'll be available, so guess we'll have to wait and see.
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    When they introduce nirvana the promise, that you can keep your refines. So I think these stones will come to cash shop soon.

    Not true. Even in the description it says that you can keep your refines, sockets and shards with a cash shop item. They don't say that it's currently not available here, however even the Promotion's Agent doesn't say that Refining Transfers are Unavailable anymore. It would seem that PWI may be bringing these stones in sometime soon. The sheer amount of stones needed to transfer a refine, shards, or sockets will generate a good deal of money *after* they have realized that dragon orb sales are stagnating because everyone has refined their end game gear, they'll start allowing the transfers.
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  • Gasoline - Lost City
    Gasoline - Lost City Posts: 304 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
    Gasoline, actually Elayne got a different answer. Their original post stating that the management had no intention of bringing Chienkun stones to this version of PWI has changed to something along the lines of 'we're looking into it'. So the official stance doesn't seem like a straight no, but isn't really all that much different... From the patch notes, it says that they'll be available, so guess we'll have to wait and see.

    I hope this is true, that they're actually looking into it <.<

    I know 2 other ppl that also talked recently with GM and they got the answer "Chienkun stones will never be introduced in PWI"

    All tho GMs dont really know much about ingame content/cash shop content in upcoming patches, in my experience b:surrender (sorry GM).
  • Lulznotwar - Lost City
    Lulznotwar - Lost City Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Gasoline - Lost City wrote: »
    Nope its not possible to keep the refines using more crystals. Im guesing you haven't tried so you possible cant know. Sadly there is no such option to bring more crystals to keep refines. I know this since people have made Nirvana gear already and guilds that farmed in group have enough crystals to craft as well.

    You need Chienkun Stone - if you dont have any you loose all refines. Option at Nirvana furnace is - Insert XXX amount of Chienkun Stone if you wanna keep refines. That is it.

    I guess thats not a huge problem if you upgrade armor only +7 or so. But if its a +10+12 weapon than you loose quite a lot of money.

    Also Chienkun Stone will never be realized in cash shop. Thats the answer the most active Nirvana farmers got after talking to GM.

    yeah my bad b:surrender

    When i read over the post spoons made they stated multiple times, and in multiple places that using more crystals they could keep refines when making nirvana gear, but i guess either i read it wrong or x.x
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  • Varscona - Sanctuary
    Varscona - Sanctuary Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i don't know what to believe anymore, but uh...didn't a gm once say that hacking was permitted on PvP servers?
  • Mumintroll - Heavens Tear
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,393 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Varscona - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i don't know what to believe anymore. x.x

    You are not alone. I'm pisses of is some written things are lies.
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  • Heartstone - Dreamweaver
    Heartstone - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,338 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Mumintroll - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    When they introduce nirvana the promise, that you can keep your refines. So I think these stones will come to cash shop soon.

    I Saw that too. and wondered why they wasnt here.
    I send a ticket, and they say they'r not planning to implement it.. pisses me off, nirvana dam waste without. and worst of all they lie to their customers, which is the worst mistake a company really can do.
    I'm sorry for misspelling / mistyping and grammar b:surrender

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  • Jiblet - Sanctuary
    Jiblet - Sanctuary Posts: 203 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    They'd be crazy not to introduce refine transfer stones tbh...nearly all 100+ players I know with decent refines (let's say for the sake of argument refine lvl 7+) are not planning to nirvana their gear until the refine transfer stones come out. Due to the uncertainty most of these players are also not planning on spending much on Dorbs to increase refine level much.

    This basically means that there are a lot of higher lvl players out there (who also tend to be pretty significant cash shoppers) that are going to be holding on to their money until these stones hit.

    Personally I have pretty highly refined eq including a +10'd TT100 weapon, and the only way they're going to get any more cash out of me for refines is once I know what the situation is regarding refine transfer for sure - I'd be very surprised if I'm the only one in this position - so not getting this sorted is going to cost them money. I'm betting it will be sorted within 2 months at the most
  • wnight
    wnight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sadpuma - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    There is nothing to fix....

    As described when Nirvana came out (if you read it), you are able to change the type of weapon you have as long as it is in the same class.

    As you described you can change bow to slingshot (dont know the others since im magic). But for magic users, you can start with a wand and get either a wand, magic sword, pataka, or glaive.

    It was made that way and the logic is sound imo. This allows you to really pick the type of weapon you want for your end-game gear instead of just pick a weapon type you may not like bc it has better additional stats.....


    I think you have no clue what are you talking about here is why:

    Have you ever tried to craft TT 99 Gold or even worse Lunar 99? Not just using anny packs but pure gathering materials even just buying them from AH(mats)? So unless you did that and know what are you talking about ( duh gathering WHOLE chain of Useless weapons in order maybe to get the one you really need in far far distant future) please do a favor take your Universal logic far away and be quietb:angry
  • Reivi - Sanctuary
    Reivi - Sanctuary Posts: 742 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    wnight wrote: »
    I think you have no clue what are you talking about here is why:

    Have you ever tried to craft TT 99 Gold or even worse Lunar 99? Not just using anny packs but pure gathering materials even just buying them from AH(mats)? So unless you did that and know what are you talking about ( duh gathering WHOLE chain of Useless weapons in order maybe to get the one you really need in far far distant future) please do a favor take your Universal logic far away and be quietb:angry

    Lunar ( wich is only 95 BTW) is much more money costly than TT 99 gold.. but easily doable.

    for each tt99 gold you need 2 gold mats, 10 green ones, 30 Subs and 20 orsomthing stones of the temple.

    Gold mats ranges from 5 to 20 M each, green mats from 400k to 2 M ea, Subs if you buy them more or less 80k, and stones.. just go and do solo rins of the instance.. or buy them at someone who doesnt scre... you at insane prices.

    so, my advice, just go for the cheapest Goold 99 weapon ( or the one you already have part of the mats) , With nirvana you ll be able to chose wich one you want to craft.

    For an archer.. dragonbow: Nameless seems the less costier( regarding needed mats ).. and doesnt need a 90 Weapon.

    for your nirvana weap it will permits you to chose wichever you want ( from the TT tree of weapons.. TT and Lunar are different sets.. except Xbow and slingshot do gives the same weapon with different names/ looks.. )
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  • Vell - Heavens Tear
    Vell - Heavens Tear Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Reivi - Sanctuary wrote: »
    For an archer.. dragonbow: Nameless seems the less costier( regarding needed mats ).. and doesnt need a 90 Weapon.

    Correct, in fact you can get the gold mats from Mysterious Merchant for about 112 chips and 2.4M fee. The green mats can be acquired for about 250k I've seen. So depending on the price of chips the entire weapon can be had for 7.5M - 10M coin. Not a bad weapon either.

    And from what I've seen all classes have access to a relatively cheap TT99 weapon like this. The magic weapon is the Divine Aegis I think. It's not nearly as useful as the Nameless is for Archers, but if you're just trying for Nirvana there ya go.
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    edited January 2010
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