The Future of FBs

Killermate - Harshlands
Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Assassin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uoj81bTLRk

Run ahead of the party + stop in safe spots + de-agro = profit

Just a lame video, just wanted to let ppl know this assassin utility. b:bye
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    dam
    lol nice
    xD

    and what kind of gear you be using?
    (>.<)'
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
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    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
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  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    b:victory already been doing this for my fac, stopped doing for the general public due to the lack of intelligence and ability to comprehend/listen and follow instruction.

    I think the original method was in forums a while back with a barb running, the group chipping in for a GA and res scroll for the cleric. Everyone had to die at the end and then the cleric just rezzed em all to get out of wine fee's.

    At least done properly with a sin no one has to die, though getting them to pay attention is rather difficult.
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    When you turn, they will be gone,
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  • Aadi - Lost City
    Aadi - Lost City Posts: 4,449 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Why do so many PW videos have to use that song? b:sweat
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  • Ballistixz - Heavens Tear
    Ballistixz - Heavens Tear Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ya it would be pretty difficult to get ppl to listen and follow simple directions with something like this. one small mistake can cause a whole party wipe. but done correctly it can make PW life alot easier and cheaper on ppl lol.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    could this mayhaps be.....
    zmog no wines needed!
    xD

    but dang your charm ticked quite a few times.
    (>.<)'
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yea.. those mobs hurt. Not very practical unless you're much higher level than the dungeon itself. Unless you throw a few ironguards/damage reduce pots in there.
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  • Killermate - Harshlands
    Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Why do so many PW videos have to use that song? b:sweat

    YouTube censors your original audio > You need to swap audio from the list > that song is on the top ~5
    b:laugh

    I think every game has a low of videos with that song cuz of it.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    so killermate
    what kind of gear you be wearing when you did that?
    X_x'
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Btw, you don't have triple spark, correct? I see taunt but no eruption on your hotkeys.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Killermate - Harshlands
    Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Im using HH90 chest, HH 80 gold leggings/boots, Aqua helm, 78 mold bracer, Sky Demon pearl, Demon Slaughter belt, Tauran Chieftain Cape.
  • Ephemerai - Sanctuary
    Ephemerai - Sanctuary Posts: 335 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    lol, I'm not quite high enough to do that yet but I've been having fun sneaking through and killing guardian/gate opener mobs for my squads ><
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  • Therronn - Sanctuary
    Therronn - Sanctuary Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I never thought of using it that way, but that was pretty damn awesome. The furthest I've thought of using Shadow Escape in Fbs is a whole squad of high level Assassins shadow walking to the Bosses and taking them out. b:laugh
  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Keep in mind guys that due to killer's level and ability to survive that run it's considerably easier for her to get it done in just 1 jaunt through. For anyone closer to the fb runs level, lets say bh level, you can break up the safe zones provided you and your squad mates are experienced with the instances.

    Doing this with the actual potential of death means that you really do need to be able to trust your squad and make sure that they are well informed. I strongly do not suggest even putting the idea out there to randoms during runs as it could easily start a great plan with a horrid reputation for failure. Imagine some random noob sin taking you through a run, dying as they go, and in turn getting the rest of the squad wiped back to square one.
    I can see what you see not,
    Vision milky, then eyes rot.
    When you turn, they will be gone,
    Whispering their hidden song.
    Then you see what cannot be,
    Shadows move where light should be.
    Out of darkness, out of mind,
    Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.
  • BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear
    BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I never thought of using it that way, but that was pretty damn awesome. The furthest I've thought of using Shadow Escape in Fbs is a whole squad of high level Assassins shadow walking to the Bosses and taking them out.

    if we had charms we should have no prob. i mean it would most likely be an aggro competition cause our crits are based on luck(kinda). i did one of my bhs(51) with 2 more sins and what can i say....damn good. we just took one mob each and it went pretty fast. not to mention that we have 2 aoes which can be deadly if used right....so i liked it.....too bad tho that sins still aren't as welcomed in pts tha the "original" classes. but it will only a matter of time...sins are usefull in squads. saving time which in itself is a good feat cause thats the one thing u can't buy ^^
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    if we had charms we should have no prob. i mean it would most likely be an aggro competition cause our crits are based on luck(kinda). i did one of my bhs(51) with 2 more sins and what can i say....damn good. we just took one mob each and it went pretty fast. not to mention that we have 2 aoes which can be deadly if used right....so i liked it.....too bad tho that sins still aren't as welcomed in pts tha the "original" classes. but it will only a matter of time...sins are usefull in squads. saving time which in itself is a good feat cause thats the one thing u can't buy ^^

    err me think you going to die lol.
    b:sweat
    you do know that killermate = level 90 at the time with really good gear?

    "Im using HH90 chest, HH 80 gold leggings/boots, Aqua helm, 78 mold bracer, Sky Demon pearl, Demon Slaughter belt, Tauran Chieftain Cape."

    and the mobs are still doing anywhere from 200 to 1100+ on him.
    b:shocked
    and he also has 6.7k HP.
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • volst
    volst Posts: 180
    edited January 2010
    I've thought about something like that for fb99 trophy mode. Except the other way around. Stealth through the first hundred mobs, then lure the rest of the fb to the rest of the squad with the other half. Figured it was pointless though because of the hp.
  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    way to be level 90?

    i mea i really se no point in this your skipping stamps and gettign hit 5-6 times by mobs your party could kill in about 5-10 seconds each

    at level 70

    neat trick but could be acomplished by any other class at the cost of .2 exp and none at all with a sage cleric

    kinda a waste really
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Killermate - Harshlands
    Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    way to be level 90?

    i mea i really se no point in this your skipping stamps and gettign hit 5-6 times by mobs your party could kill in about 5-10 seconds each

    at level 70

    neat trick but could be acomplished by any other class at the cost of .2 exp and none at all with a sage cleric

    kinda a waste really
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  • Rayne_ - Harshlands
    Rayne_ - Harshlands Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    First of all, even if you were 31 levels higher, good show Killermate. It's nice to see someone from the harshlands server actually showing up in the forums for a change.

    Second of all, this lets people know what some high level assassins are capable of. Great people to have along for all sorts of quests.

    This seems a good example of alternative ways to power level people in your faction if they're trying to catch up to others.

    Game mechanics are expanding, people. This is a good thing
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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited January 2010

    b:chuckle you dont take critisism of any kind well do you?

    its a cool trick but not the "future" of fb's and bh's

    was really hopeing sins stealth skill would have more pve usefullness in squads

    only way i've seen it used well so far is to cancle aggo off pulled mobs (as you showed) to avoid aggro on the party without dieing
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Killermate - Harshlands
    Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    way to be level 90?

    i mea i really se no point in this your skipping stamps and gettign hit 5-6 times by mobs your party could kill in about 5-10 seconds each

    at level 70

    neat trick but could be acomplished by any other class at the cost of .2 exp and none at all with a sage cleric

    kinda a waste really

    Tell me how this is good criticism?

    way to be level 90? jelous or wut? my your own business

    i mea i really se no point in this your skipping stamps and gettign hit 5-6 times by mobs your party could kill in about 5-10 seconds each
    No point on not using wines in exchange of a few hits on a player? And unwined FB 59 even if it takes 10 seconds per mobs go ahead and do the match. It would take forever to finish the FB

    neat trick but could be acomplished by any other class at the cost of .2 exp and none at all with a sage cleric
    How could this be accomplished by other classes w/o having any ppl on the party dying? And why in hell would you need a sage cleric?

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    kinda a waste really Ohhh really?

    I take criticism pretty good, but please, at least try harder that rolling your face on the keyboard.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    errr ya....
    me still find it odd but me has to applaud teh concept.
    it be interesting.
    (^.^)

    and sure why not trade in a few ticks of a HP charm, a few genie stamina, and possibly apoc potions (emergencies me suppose or something)?
    instead of using up like 300k+ for wines
    b:puzzled

    also me was wondering
    O.o
    could this work with a BH level ranged assassin? (like a 7x for BH59)
    b:puzzled
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Nightwhisper - Harshlands
    Nightwhisper - Harshlands Posts: 24 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I have been thinking of something like this for some time... While this is a new idea has anyone thought of these?

    1) pull a boss with knife throw, have a barb agro boss, go invisible to lose the added mobs?

    2) TT bosses are lvl 150, the mobs are not. Stealth should work on the mobs, but not the bosses. Could a assassin pull the boss to the start of the dungeon in some instances?
  • Super_Trout - Dreamweaver
    Super_Trout - Dreamweaver Posts: 225 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    also me was wondering
    O.o
    could this work with a BH level ranged assassin? (like a 7x for BH59)
    b:puzzled

    It may be possible, but they would have to make many more pit-stops along the way than Killer did. And I would only do it with a sin that you know pretty well. As the strategy isn't perfected yet (Although Killer did do an excellent job of showing the strat., there's always room for improvement), it could cause countless party wipes in random-squad BHs due to inexperienced sins seeing this thread and going "Hey! That looks easy, I could totally do that!"
    TT bosses are lvl 150, the mobs are not. Stealth should work on the mobs, but not the bosses. Could a assassin pull the boss to the start of the dungeon in some instances?

    Hmm...that's actually an interesting thought. o.o
    Though it would probably only work for certain bosses, as some may hit the Sin a bit too hard.

    Quick Killer, make a stealth TT vid! b:chuckle
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  • Killermate - Harshlands
    Killermate - Harshlands Posts: 437 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I have been thinking of something like this for some time... While this is a new idea has anyone thought of these?

    1) pull a boss with knife throw, have a barb agro boss, go invisible to lose the added mobs?

    2) TT bosses are lvl 150, the mobs are not. Stealth should work on the mobs, but not the bosses. Could a assassin pull the boss to the start of the dungeon in some instances?

    I never though of luring the bosses to the beginning but i guess it would be possible. Only issue would be having to kill the mini bosses to open gates, or some TTs requiring to kill hard bosses in order to spawn/have access to the others.
    I'l think about it and see which instances i can possibly do this efficiently.

    As for now im thinking i could do this easy on FB 79. If the squad help me kill Stygean to open the first gate in case it's closed, i could solo the rest.

    I have already tried soloing the Tower to open the second gate, and luring a boss to the beginning would be easy as well. Ironguard pot would be nice in case you let Linus hit you with ranged attack and break your stealth.
    But then again 1~3 Ironguard pots are way cheaper than 570K from wines.
  • Isimud - Heavens Tear
    Isimud - Heavens Tear Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Very interesting have been playing with this for a bit now works well lol we can do the ultimate rush on some instances.
  • Thinkalot - Dreamweaver
    Thinkalot - Dreamweaver Posts: 133 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Tried today with ma sin.

    Went well. Up until the point i got blocked somehow and died.
    Result : mobs went back, squadmembers didn't follow fast enough, they died.

    The only reason doing this is when you are a lot of lvls higher then the mobs, are SURE you don't get blocked/stunned, and the other partymembers can follow right behind you.

    Otherwise, safer to just use wines.

    Oh, and if the only cleric should die and has no rezz scroll, you're plain F. Cause he probably can't get past the mobs you just skipped or takes way to long to get there...
  • Ephemerai - Sanctuary
    Ephemerai - Sanctuary Posts: 335 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    It's harder than it looks, but most likely possible with a good sin in the BH level range. And the right skills =P
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  • Sneakret - Heavens Tear
    Sneakret - Heavens Tear Posts: 618 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Provided Deaden Nerves is up, I see potential time saved with coredash of 3-1, though similar to the rest there are still the hands to deal with.

    As far as lvl's above, bh level is more than adequate for doing so.


    FB79 - provided you can't get ahold of Iron Guard, I would suggest Absolute domain for the few sets of mele only mobs in groups of 5-6.

    Stygean- Dragging the group with you, run straight to the pre chamber to sty, fairly large room, dump aggro at the North East corner have the squad ready in the South East/West corner ready to deal with the patrol archer from aggro dump.

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    Hoolie- Pass straight into his room, riding the wall immediately on the left hand side. The squad will trail behind and take position in the North East corner, there will be 1 magic ranged pirate to deal with after aggro drop, the sin will run around the left hand entrance wall by the doors leading to the remainder of the run. Upon reaching the second door, pass it by and head directly to the corner and engage stealth.

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    I can see what you see not,
    Vision milky, then eyes rot.
    When you turn, they will be gone,
    Whispering their hidden song.
    Then you see what cannot be,
    Shadows move where light should be.
    Out of darkness, out of mind,
    Cast down into the Halls of the Blind.