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    • Posts: 9,091 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      AndyNagato - Lost City wrote: »
      QQthread is QQ. there is nothing wrong with TT prices dropping, its absolutely ludicrous that my chest armor is around 80-100m at 99. the only reason gold is ridiculously high is because peopl are willing to pay stupid prices.

      this is the sad truth about PW forums.

      B F'ING DEAL Q_____Q; I CANT SELL MY TT DROPS AT A HIGH PRICE, IM SAD NOW. TT gear should be avaliable to anyone who wants it the legit way, not just those who've been milking the economy or playing for ages.
      AndyNagato - Lost City wrote: »
      whinewhinewhinewhineqqqqqqqqqq

      lol can't afford my endgeame gear QQQQ

      See, I can stoop to your level. lmao

      After running a couple dozen 3-3's, tell me the price for chips +coin isn't worth it. nub
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    • Posts: 3,814 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      lol can't afford my endgeame gear QQQQ

      See, I can stoop to your level. lmao

      After running a couple dozen 3-3's, tell me the price for chips +coin isn't worth it. nub

      I've run a few 3-3s. I'd rather run those than try to afford the darn chips.
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      Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
    • Posts: 90 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      This is the Qqers creed, learn it love it repeat it often when ever you

      feel the urge to Qq.

      This is my Qq thread . There are many others like it, but this one is

      mine. My Qq thread is my best friend.
      It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my

      Qq thread is useless.
      Without my Qq thread, I am useless. I must Qq with more passion than
      others, who is trying to Qq more than me.
      I must Qq about them before they Qq about me. I will.
      Before the forum Admins I swear this creed: my Qq thread and myself are

      defenders of the Qq club, we are the saviors of the Qq club.
      So be it, until there is no more Qqing, but peace. Amen.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    • Posts: 5 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      could you all possibly QQ more? stop whining because no matter what you will find something to whine about! Gold prices and TT mats are too high thank anni packs QQ and now gold prices are crashing TT mats are too low and theres gonna be too many noobs! QQ! SHUTUP! just play the freaken game if you dont like it then quit because you have no control over what is said or done end of story!
    • Posts: 384 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      I've run a few 3-3s. I'd rather run those than try to afford the darn chips.

      Wouldnt be to bad if had a better chance of getting chips from BH100 than what it is but nooooooooooooo mirages or sacks is the norm
    • Posts: 346 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      why everyone on this forum always say QQ, is it a verb now? I swear i dont see any other forum use QQ as much as this one
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    • Posts: 9,091 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      I've run a few 3-3s. I'd rather run those than try to afford the darn chips.

      I've seen Illusion Lord's Stone drop a several times, and Illusion Stone drop once in about 20 runs. Each run is at least 2 hrs unless it's a held instance. Just seeing the drop rate, how many people that would go in the run that actually need it (almost all of them)... *shrug* Farming ADS from 2-3 is easier. I'll just save up and purchase one, as I don't see farming 2 (or rather 10+ gold drops so each member of the group ends up getting 2, to be a viable option).

      And you, being a veno, it's not an instance you can solo.
      I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
    • Posts: 3,634 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      People that don't have a valid argument resort to saying QQ. Looks like michael is winning his debate as few points have been brought up besides "this doesn't effect me so I don't care what you have to say."

      Only reason I don't completely hate the 2x drop is that the drops are terrible these days. Farm a lot during the double drop and wait a while till the prices rise again due to demand. I can wait...

      reallyj.png

      ^ 0.06% chance if my lazy math is correct. used to net 3 greens per boss on average in 2-3.. now we're lucky to see 2.
    • Posts: 1,686 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
      People that don't have a valid argument resort to saying QQ. Looks like michael is winning his debate as few points have been brought up besides "this doesn't effect me so I don't care what you have to say."
      Michael is only upset because his preferred way of making money is going through a market bump right now. So rather than adapt, he announces it's the end of the game. I certainly can't blame people for calling "QQ", even though I too agree that the term is so over-used these days that it's rapidly becoming cliche.

      There are tons of times where PWI adjusts prices/rules/whatever and my money-making schemes go *poof!* instantly. I've woken up on quite a few occasions, looked at the newest patch notes, and realized, "Huh, that means I just lost 25million."

      But if I came on the forums and lamented about it, people (usually Zoe, actually...) would have every right put me in my place and expose my "concern" as nothing more than personal greed.
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    • Posts: 3,814 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      I've seen Illusion Lord's Stone drop a several times, and Illusion Stone drop once in about 20 runs. Each run is at least 2 hrs unless it's a held instance. Just seeing the drop rate, how many people that would go in the run that actually need it (almost all of them)... *shrug* Farming ADS from 2-3 is easier. I'll just save up and purchase one, as I don't see farming 2 (or rather 10+ gold drops so each member of the group ends up getting 2, to be a viable option).

      And you, being a veno, it's not an instance you can solo.

      I know I can't solo that, not a chance. I was with 2 other venos in 3-2 and we were not able to do it even with all 3 of us having hercs. I was 92 and they were both near 100.

      It was that TT run that made me want to hit level 93 as soon as I could because my herc could not even tank many of the normal monsters there I just could not heal enough. Wasn't as hard with level 10 pet heal though.

      I would still rather run 3-3 then buy the mats.
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      Celestial Sage Venomancer Zoe - 100
      Sage Barbarian Malego - 91
    • Posts: 3,634 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
      Michael is only upset because his preferred way of making money is going through a market bump right now. So rather than adapt, he announces it's the end of the game. I certainly can't blame people for calling "QQ", even though I too agree that the term is so over-used these days that it's rapidly becoming cliche.

      There are tons of times where PWI adjusts prices/rules/whatever and my money-making schemes go *poof!* instantly. I've woken up on quite a few occasions, looked at the newest patch notes, and realized, "Huh, that means I just lost 25million."

      But if I came on the forums and lamented about it, people (usually Zoe, actually...) would have every right put me in my place and expose my "concern" as nothing more than personal greed.

      That's why it's best to diversify. Pwi is quite predictable as I have gone through the timeline of this game already. I think saying that 2x drop rate meaning the end of the game is obviously over-exaggerated but really besides proper merchanting TT farming is the only other feasible way of maintaining some sort of competition with people who charge. This is much more of a concern for pvp server players as I have found pve servers have a much more manipulative economy. You can still easily merchant on a pvp server but the returns are much more diminished and usually long term so having the ability to farm TT to make a quick 5 mil is really helpful.
    • Posts: 2,294 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Kasumi - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      why everyone on this forum always say QQ, is it a verb now? I swear i dont see any other forum use QQ as much as this one

      Each time you say QQ on the forums, it adds +1 to your E-Peen size :D
    • Posts: 9,091 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
      Michael is only upset because his preferred way of making money is going through a market bump right now. So rather than adapt, he announces it's the end of the game. I certainly can't blame people for calling "QQ", even though I too agree that the term is so over-used these days that it's rapidly becoming cliche.

      There are tons of times where PWI adjusts prices/rules/whatever and my money-making schemes go *poof!* instantly. I've woken up on quite a few occasions, looked at the newest patch notes, and realized, "Huh, that means I just lost 25million."

      But if I came on the forums and lamented about it, people (usually Zoe, actually...) would have every right put me in my place and expose my "concern" as nothing more than personal greed.

      lol, I didn't announce it as the end of the game. Melodramatics aside, I've heard a number of people voice their displeasure that they're giving away 5 levels to some lucky winner, and if it happens to artificially break the earned top level users, people have said they'd quit. I am not one of them, but I can understand their concerns.

      And as for TT greed, I always sell my mats for 5-10% lower than lowest auction prices. I don't care about an extra 50-100k here or there, and I'd rather just get the money and send it out to those who participate. But, I would like to continue to earn enough in-game coin without having to supplement IRL $$$ to do normal activities... buy charms, tele through WQ, buy dolls, etc... I don't have the motivation or desire to set up a 24/7 catshop and I don't hold it against anyone who does, I just won't do it myself.

      No worries though, anyone who wants to cry QQ can feel free to. If they don't have anything intelligible to add, they can troll for their post count or e-peen. Whatever makes them happy. lol
      I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
    • Posts: 3,634 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Totally forgot about the 5 free levels... if anyone gets over level 102 because of this it's a HUGE indicator that pwi doesn't know their own game or they just don't care. The free levels really should be more staggered to fit the rewards.

      ie. much more levels for a lower leveled player and 1 for a 100+ player, or just give a set amount of exp so that it is properly distributed.

      Although this isn't much of a concern, the odds of someone 98+ winning is rare.
    • Posts: 1,686 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      lol, I didn't announce it as the end of the game.
      Well, ok, you just said that "the best and really only way to make money in-game that doesn't involve merchanting is going to die". If you had added, "for the next month or so", then I might have just agreed with you instead. But you know how the forums can be. Every 5 minutes or so somebody is announcing the death of the game.
      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      Melodramatics aside, I've heard a number of people voice their displeasure that they're giving away 5 levels to some lucky winner, and if it happens to artificially break the earned top level users, people have said they'd quit. I am not one of them, but I can understand their concerns.
      That's certainly an issues I can agree with you on. If somebody ends up going from 100 to 105, purely by luck, then that's kinda insane.
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    • Posts: 2,294 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      The free levels are most likely going to go to someones friend who doesn't even play the game who added the pwi page on their facebook as a favour. Or an alt email address that isn't even registered with pw at all and is therefore ineligible.
    • Posts: 1,686 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
      The free levels are most likely going to go to someones friend who doesn't even play the game who added the pwi page on their facebook as a favour. Or an alt email address that isn't even registered with pw at all and is therefore ineligible.
      Tell you what, if I win, I'm giving the 5 free levels to my level 1 alt that I made way way back during Jolly Jones in order to hold Scarlet Fruit. b:victory
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    • Posts: 914 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
      People that don't have a valid argument resort to saying QQ. Looks like michael is winning his debate as few points have been brought up besides "this doesn't effect me so I don't care what you have to say."

      Only reason I don't completely hate the 2x drop is that the drops are terrible these days. Farm a lot during the double drop and wait a while till the prices rise again due to demand. I can wait...

      reallyj.png

      ^ 0.06% chance if my lazy math is correct. used to net 3 greens per boss on average in 2-3.. now we're lucky to see 2.

      ^This happened to me last night. I went on 2 3-1 runs and only got 2 sorceress's hand to show for it. tbh, I really think they made the drops poor this week to jinx us into became theyre facebook fans. b:cold
      >.<
    • Posts: 2,674 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Centetric - Lost City wrote: »
      What do u mean? there are tons of player in the facebook group who are less than lvl 95 ........................b:shutup
      LOL       QQ thread much?b:chuckle
      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      Not QQing at all. Just stating that there is a relatively good chance that we'll see the first lvl 103-105 player because of this. ijs
      AndyNagato - Lost City wrote: »
      QQthread is QQ. there is nothing wrong with TT prices dropping, its absolutely ludicrous that my chest armor is around 80-100m at 99. the only reason gold is ridiculously high is because peopl are willing to pay stupid prices.

      this is the sad truth about PW forums.

      B F'ING DEAL       Q_____Q; I CANT SELL MY TT DROPS AT A HIGH PRICE, IM SAD NOW. TT gear should be avaliable to anyone who wants it the legit way, not just those who've been milking the economy or playing for ages.
      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      lol nofactor says what? Post your main or GTFO (go to final oath)? b:chuckle

      Honestly, you're       QQing more in one post than I have in this whole thread. Ironic, huh? lol Illusion Stone is 840 chips + 18m coin. 756 tokens @ 21k per token = 15.8m. 18m + 15.8m = 33.8m. If you BH100 and Cube every day, you'd have a nice stash of chips already saved up, making it even cheaper. I don't see how you're doing your math, but you clearly fail.

      BTW, if you've ever run 3-3, you'd know that you get one chest mat per how many runs? Seems to average maybe 1 Illusion Stone ever 8-12 runs or so. If the whole group were just going to dedicate runs only for you, that'd be at least a few charms and dolls per run unless you have an ep with lvl 11 rez... but anyone who would farm you those mats would also most likely need it themselves, so the cost of farming these mats + time spent farming at normal drop rate for a whole party, your money is almost better spent just buying tokens for chips and spending the coin for it.

      lol too funny.
      AndyNagato - Lost City wrote: »
      whinewhinewhinewhineqqqqqqqqqq
      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      lol can't afford my endgeame gear QQQQ

      See, I can stoop to your level. lmao

      After running a couple dozen 3-3's, tell me the price for chips +coin isn't worth it. nub
      Jaberwachy - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      This is the Qqers creed, learn it love it repeat it often when ever you

      feel the urge to       Qq.

      This is my Qq thread . There are many others like it, but this one is

      mine. My       Qq thread is my best friend.
      It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life. Without me, my

      Qq thread is useless.
      Without my Qq thread, I am useless. I must Qq with more passion than
      others, who is trying to       Qq more than me.
      I must       Qq about them before they Qq about me. I will.
      Before the forum Admins I swear this creed: my       Qq thread and myself are

      defenders of the       Qq club, we are the saviors of the Qq club.
      So be it, until there is no more       Qqing, but peace. Amen.
      SongOfSiren - Sanctuary wrote: »
      could you all possibly QQ more? stop whining because no matter what you will find something to whine about! Gold prices and TT mats are too high thank anni packs QQ and now gold prices are crashing TT mats are too low and theres gonna be too many noobs! QQ! SHUTUP! just play the freaken game if you dont like it then quit because you have no control over what is said or done end of story!
      Kasumi - Dreamweaver wrote: »
      why everyone on this forum always say QQ, is it a verb now? I swear i dont see any other forum use QQ as much as this one
      Devoted - Lost City wrote: »
      People that don't have a valid argument resort to saying QQ. Looks like michael is winning his debate as few points have been brought up besides "this doesn't effect me so I don't care what you have to say."

      Only reason I don't completely hate the 2x drop is that the drops are terrible these days. Farm a lot during the double drop and wait a while till the prices rise again due to demand. I can wait...

      ^ 0.06% chance if my lazy math is correct. used to net 3 greens per boss on average in 2-3.. now we're lucky to see 2.
      _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
      Each time you say QQ on the forums, it adds +1 to your E-Peen size :D

      Michael_dark - Lost City wrote: »
      lol, I didn't announce it as the end of the game. Melodramatics aside, I've heard a number of people voice their displeasure that they're giving away 5 levels to some lucky winner, and if it happens to artificially break the earned top level users, people have said they'd quit. I am not one of them, but I can understand their concerns.

      And as for TT greed, I always sell my mats for 5-10% lower than lowest auction prices. I don't care about an extra 50-100k here or there, and I'd rather just get the money and send it out to those who participate. But, I would like to continue to earn enough in-game coin without having to supplement IRL $$$ to do normal activities... buy charms, tele through WQ, buy dolls, etc... I don't have the motivation or desire to set up a 24/7 catshop and I don't hold it against anyone who does, I just won't do it myself.

      No worries though, anyone who wants to cry       QQ can feel free to. If they don't have anything intelligible to add, they can troll for their post count or e-peen. Whatever makes them happy. lol

      QQ moar.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

      9x Demon Cleric
    • Posts: 373 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      QQ moar.

      +1 to this lol
      -i was in the million dolla meetins he was cheatin. all up in the church, he was sneakin with the deacon. cats away while the mice will play lol smiley face have a nicer day. cuz pop pop po it goes my rubber band so stop stop stop sniffin that contraband. cuz you was penny pinchin my accounts laced attenion! about face.

      ~nicki minaj~
    • Posts: 10,466 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      hmmm...
      mayhaps we are in need of hawk to close for excessive letter Q's?
      b:puzzled
      darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
      Hawk:Do this. closing thread
      frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
      Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
      Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
      LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
      Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
      Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
      58% chance to get tokens
      41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
      1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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    • Posts: 914 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      I wanna know who the idiot was that decided "QQ" should mean "crying or whining" Seriously, does it really look like 2 eyes balls with tears coming out of them, thus being "crying" or "QQing"........

      Here, have another look: QQ
      >.<
    • Posts: 2,674 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Originally had very little to do with crying at all.
      Click here, the second definition's right.
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

      9x Demon Cleric
    • Posts: 9,091 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      DeathBanana - Heavens Tear wrote: »
      QQ moar.

      LMAO b:surrender

      you win at the internet b:pleased
      I post in forums. This one and others. That's why I post.
    • Posts: 460 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      I like how everyone hates you on forums ASWELL as in-game b:chuckle

      And lol at thinking there's a good chance of level 103-105's when the EXTREMELY VAST majority of people that signed up will be below that, l2probability.

      Oh btw, this is the same guy that cried when I didn't immediately share a forshura's arm on a 2-3 which resulted in a 100 veno threatening to leave his guild because he was "such a jerk" (because 1 forshura arm > helpful 100 veno's right?)

      b:dirtyb:dirtyb:dirty
    • Posts: 907 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      wow lol... people complaining about a free event; the same people that complain about there being too many "pay2participate" events.

      Would be less funny, I think, if this whole community wasn't so cliche. You guys are funny. b:chuckle
    • Posts: 2,294 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      I wish TT90 in the AH would go down though. 7-12m for fail pieces of Mountcrasher with only 2 sockets and lowest bonus stats possible when it would cost 5m to make yourself. I'm one of those players who likes buying pre-made because sometimes you get a nice deal on refines/shards....but everyone's acting like their TT90 is worth 3 times what it really is. You'd think weeks of "Auction duration reached" mail would teach some people.
    • Posts: 185 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      WarrenWolfy - Sanctuary wrote: »
      But if I came on the forums and lamented about it, people (usually Zoe, actually...) would have every right put me in my place and expose my "concern" as nothing more than personal greed.
      im surprised zoe isnt resorting to her old, PW PLAYERS ARE EVIL AND GREEDY, THE ECONOMY IS RAN BY GREED, MICHAEL IS GREEDY. that always made me lol... especially when it was used to refer to pet tamers/vendors..
    • Posts: 147 Arc User
      edited January 2010
      Thankfully, I think the prices will remain about the same on the RT server. People need their mats, and will gladly pay oodles for them. XD
      RIP Resolve. You guys still owe me TW pay. XD

      Varden- <3 you all!

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