Teleporting Costs

IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Suggestion Box
Okay... I know this isn't a greatly pressing matter... but still an important one I think. I'd also like to start out by saying thanks to everyone who has a part in PWI and thanks for all the recent updates, it's a great game!!


Anyways, I think the cost of teleporting between towns needs to be lowered quite a bit... I'd say take a zero off... (ie: 1000>100, 8000>800)
Also I think you should be able to teleport to any town from any town...

Please make this change because the way it is currently is a huge waste of coin and more importantly time; because most people don't teleport at all, but instead fly everywhere... which is very time consuming.

All in all I think the current teleporting system is a HUGE drain and waste... please lower the cost and increase the amount of towns available to teleport to from each town.

Thanks! b:bye

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  • BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear
    BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i completely agree with u Doom. Its a shame we can only teleport in between the cities lying next to each other. Sometimes even that doesn't work if ur not in the main cities. So u have to use the tele stones and that would be a waste aswell.
  • Rheic - Dreamweaver
    Rheic - Dreamweaver Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I think the prices should be more dependant of your level and actual distance travelled. Also it's annoying to teleport multiple times to get to your destination. Why we could't simply teleport to ANY activated teleport instead?

    ~edit~

    Oh, right. They actually want us to pay for that.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You do not have to use the teleporter, it is more a matter of convenience.

    There is a fly and auto-path feature b:surrender
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  • IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
    IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Please make this change because the way it is currently is a huge waste of coin and more importantly time; because most people don't teleport at all, but instead fly everywhere... which is very time consuming.

    Thanks! b:bye
    You do not have to use the teleporter, it is more a matter of convenience.

    There is a fly and auto-path feature b:surrender


    Yes, and we're all aware of this... as it has been mentioned already... fly and auto-path take too damn long - that's the issue. Therefore to fix, just lower teleporting costs and allow tele to anywhere from anywhere.

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  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Perfect Solution: Stop being lazy and impatient and everything will be just fine. b:victory
  • Barbariankev - Heavens Tear
    Barbariankev - Heavens Tear Posts: 831 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    get a better flying mount or be patient
    and stop QQing
    its impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
    just try to be a good person

    english isn't my native language so there might be a few spelling/grammatical errors in my posts
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yes, and we're all aware of this... as it has been mentioned already... fly and auto-path take too damn long - that's the issue. Therefore to fix, just lower teleporting costs and allow tele to anywhere from anywhere.

    The teleporters are just an option not a MUST in-game...see below v

    Perfect Solution: Stop being lazy and impatient and everything will be just fine. b:victory
    get a better flying mount or be patient
    and stop QQing
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Pay for convenience. Its the exact same in real life. You can cook your own food for a low cost, or you can be lazy and order take out/delivery/dine out for a cost.

    What grinds my gears: People that insist to fly on their slow 0.5m/s to and from Head Hunter to BH69. Just use some teleports people, dont make your entire squad wait for you to save 10k.
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  • IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
    IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Perfect Solution: Stop being lazy and impatient and everything will be just fine. b:victory

    It isn't that I'm lazy or impatient... it's just that it really adds up in cost/time to either teleport or auto-path... lets say you teleport a hundred times over a week, @ 3k or so each = 300k. BIG waste of money... and the point of the game is to have fun - and I don't find it fun auto-pathing such great distances... which adds up to hours wasted after a week or so... and since this is a "Suggestion" forum... I 'suggest' lowering cost of teleports. Thank you and don't leave stupid replies plz.
    get a better flying mount or be patient
    and stop QQing

    I have Urim's Light... and it doesn't matter what mount you have... hours wasted auto-pathing everywhere still...
    Pay for convenience. Its the exact same in real life. You can cook your own food for a low cost, or you can be lazy and order take out/delivery/dine out for a cost.

    I understand your point... but would you not agree that lower costs to teleport would be better? Don't see why everyone has to complain about this suggestion....

    And quit comparing PW to RL plz... they're different you know...

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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bad idea.

    People need to think of ideas to make the game better.

    NOT EASIER!!!
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010

    And quit comparing PW to RL plz... they're different you know...

    They're so different at all. Real people play the game, hence real concepts are used. Just like supply and demand. Its used both in RL and in game. Also, both worlds are far far from perfect. There are many similarities in the game, and I explained one of them.
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  • IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
    IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The teleporters are just an option not a MUST in-game...see below v

    I don't get why you would dismiss an improvement like this... What's negative about it?

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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Its not an improvement at all. Improvements do not mean: "to make the game easier". The hub based teleport system is fine.
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  • IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
    IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bad idea.

    People need to think of ideas to make the game better.

    NOT EASIER!!!

    It isn't a matter of ease for me, merely convenience... The bottom line is:

    With the current setup - your either gonna spend a LOT of coin just to teleport in your PW career... or you gonna waste hours upon hours of time flying to places...

    I suggest this to simply cut out all of that wasted coin/time so we can spend that time actually playing the game...
    They're so different at all. Real people play the game, hence real concepts are used. Just like supply and demand. Its used both in RL and in game. Also, both worlds are far far from perfect. There are many similarities in the game, and I explained one of them.

    Your obviously too far gone... It's a game, buddy...

    And I dunno what "They're so different at all." is supposed to mean...
    I don't understand why you keep fighting a good thing...

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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I don't get why you would dismiss an improvement like this... What's negative about it?

    I can predict another thoughtless reply from you stating something we all already know...I can predict another thoughtless, my suggestion is the best anyone has ever seen reply too...but IF I was to post a suggestion here I would be open and even expect people to potentially disagree with me. Now, let us look at this again below....

    Ok....let me break it down for you...

    1) You DO NOT have to use teleportation as it is a "perk" to make life easier...kind of like a fast food drive thru

    2) You are charged for the "perk"

    3) If you want to use this feature you need coins therefore go grind more and then you can have the luxury of using the teleporter

    * I know 9x-10x+ that STILL do World Mission flying...THE ENTIRE THING!!! You can "afk" fly while doing other things depending on what is going on...maybe homework?

    ** The point is, if you want the easy way out, you have to be willing to pay the cost of convenience...So if life!
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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The point your missing is that it is NOT a good thing.

    This promotes more lazieness and the community in this game is already been given way too much to make life soo "convinient".
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Heck, why dont our characters start at level 105, get unlimited money and gold, and get free end game gear refined and all. That way, we dont have to spend time farming for gear, merchanting for money, and grinding to reach end game status/dungeons.
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    My life has been one long, happy holiday;
    Full of work and full of play-
    I dropped the worry on the way-
    And God was good to me everyday.
  • IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
    IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ok....let me break it down for you...

    1) You DO NOT have to use teleportation as it is a "perk" to make life easier...kind of like a fast food drive thru

    2) You are charged for the "perk"

    3) If you want to use this feature you need coins therefore go grind more and then you can have the luxury of using the teleporter

    * I know 9x-10x+ that STILL do World Mission flying...THE ENTIRE THING!!! You can "afk" fly while doing other things depending on what is going on...maybe homework?

    ** The point is, if you want the easy way out, you have to be willing to pay the cost of convenience...So if life!

    Again, not telling me stuff I don't know and understand... and I also do WQ flying to each NPC.

    I'm just saying: Cost should be lowered...

    I know can AFK while doing WQ, but it takes like a freaking hour... and un-like you... maybe not everyone has all day to play...

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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you can't spend the time to do a certain quest you do not deserve to do it.

    And calling RedsRose dumb pretty much makes you the dumbest person the forums. She knows more about this game than most of all put together. And she actually cares about making the game better.

    Just stop complaining and see that all your requests are because you want more for less and that is just greed.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Elviron - Dreamweaver
    Elviron - Dreamweaver Posts: 812 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Well I had said it in a simple fashion but I guess it doesnt get to you.

    Ok heres a tip: Use the damn puppy (which ever city u can find it) and get your butt back to Arch and save that 3k.

    What youre asking is almost instant travelling across the entire world a ridiculously low rate which is not really an improvement and is only to lower your personal cost. Pretty sure those who use only teleports to get around, pretty much make enough to make that cost look insignificant or just use alternate/smart ways to get around faster.

    Alternatively you could also get a land mount to cover short distances faster.
  • IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
    IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The point your missing is that it is NOT a good thing.

    This promotes more lazieness and the community in this game is already been given way too much to make life soo "convinient".
    Heck, why dont our characters start at level 105, get unlimited money and gold, and get free end game gear refined and all. That way, we dont have to spend time farming for gear, merchanting for money, and grinding to reach end game status/dungeons.

    You are blowing this thing way out of proportion... all this would change would be that people would have more time to farm gear/ merchant / grind / dungeons... And if they chose to teleport, it wouldn't be one of there major expenses...

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  • IDoomblade - Heavens Tear
    IDoomblade - Heavens Tear Posts: 63 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you can't spend the time to do a certain quest you do not deserve to do it.

    And calling RedsRose dumb pretty much makes you the dumbest person the forums. She knows more about this game than most of all put together. And she actually cares about making the game better.

    Just stop complaining and see that all your requests are because you want more for less and that is just greed.

    Your right, I shouldn't have said that... but the reason I did is because she resorted to quoting insults by others... But I apologize to you, Rose.

    I'll just leave this alone... people obviously have a big problem with having more time to play the game.

    This will probably get closed anyways now with all the animosity.

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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    teleporting costs monies now?
    b:shocked
    this be news to me....
    (err pretty sure that teleporting saves monies since if everyone gets in faster = kills faster = get the drops to cover what you used to teleport = gets out faster = used save time to grind on like....3 mobs to cover the cost...)
    b:sweat

    okies so it be like 10k to get to wraithgate....
    drops probably gives around 5k-20k+ easy. (the dq and the NPCable gear)
    ya......
    me don't see any problem with the current system lol...
    b:sweat

    or.....is you being lazy and trying to teleport to all your WQ places?
    loooooooooool~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    that won't save monies but burn through alot of monies.
    xD
    (if you don't has time, a fast aero, or monies me think avoiding WQ might be a decent choice.)
    since you could probably make up the "loss" by doing a BH, questing, PQ (QQ me want to PQ but the darn gap between 81-95...)
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  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Talking to you is like talking with a brick wall. You stand firm to what you believe to be the truth, and reject those who disagree with you. None of our arguments actually make a difference in the end. If you want to have easy access to teleporting, buy yourself some nice teleport incense at a cheap 10cents per pop.

    Also, I teleport all the time, and the meager ~10k cost is nothing. Thats like what 3-4 DQ drops? Major expense? Yea ok.
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Again, not telling me stuff I don't know and understand... and I also do WQ flying to each NPC.

    I'm just saying: Cost should be lowered...

    I know can AFK while doing WQ, but it takes like a freaking hour... and un-like you... maybe not everyone has all day to play...

    Without quoting what you just said a few posts down, I think the issue is not the cost as much as it is the time for you.

    The simple fact is that this game now has so many Dailies that many spend most of their online time doing BH's and the like.

    This is no different for myself, my alts, my friends and other players. You do not have to rush things. Get done what you can get done when you can. I often struggle to get what I need done both on my main here and my alts, while helping others that need things and doing guild things.

    The fact is teleportation DOES make things easier and faster, but that does not mean that you constantly have to be rushing and as in life I will say again: you pay for convenience.....b:surrender
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    O HAI, what'd I miss here?

    *reads through posts*

    Ahh...okay, OP loses. Bye!

    b:avoid
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  • Elenacostel - Heavens Tear
    Elenacostel - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,822 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The costs should not be lowered, b/c it's a money sink. It drains a lot of coin from the system. You may find it costly, but that's sort of the point.

    As for teleporting everywhere, I would like a feature that allows you to chain teleport, without having to speak to so many NPCs. If I wanted to teleport from Orchid Temple to Dreaming Cloud, I'd speak to the teleporter at Orchid Temple, bring up the map, and choose Arch -> DW -> Dreaming Cloud. Then, I'd pay the total sum cost (maybe extra for the extra chain service), and teleport straight there.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The costs should not be lowered, b/c it's a money sink. It drains a lot of coin from the system. You may find it costly, but that's sort of the point.

    As for teleporting everywhere, I would like a feature that allows you to chain teleport, without having to speak to so many NPCs. If I wanted to teleport from Orchid Temple to Dreaming Cloud, I'd speak to the teleporter at Orchid Temple, bring up the map, and choose Arch -> DW -> Dreaming Cloud. Then, I'd pay the total sum cost (maybe extra for the extra chain service), and teleport straight there.

    me would like this too.
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  • Rheic - Dreamweaver
    Rheic - Dreamweaver Posts: 154 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The costs should not be lowered, b/c it's a money sink. It drains a lot of coin from the system. You may find it costly, but that's sort of the point.

    As for teleporting everywhere, I would like a feature that allows you to chain teleport, without having to speak to so many NPCs. If I wanted to teleport from Orchid Temple to Dreaming Cloud, I'd speak to the teleporter at Orchid Temple, bring up the map, and choose Arch -> DW -> Dreaming Cloud. Then, I'd pay the total sum cost (maybe extra for the extra chain service), and teleport straight there.

    I think it would be much less of a hassle if the teleporters would just take you to ANY activated teleport on map. For that I could pay WAY more coin than the amount usually required.
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  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The best part of the Teleporting are the ones based soley on the most lazy Tele Jumps.

    Like from Arch to Silver Pool?? what is it 8K??

    But the starting towns have cheap jump points for the newbies.

    Sometimes you just need to know yuor jump points to get your best bang for your jump.

    There is a map out there with all Tele points connected to where they go. There is no costs related on it but it would not take you long to print it out and have your prices hand written along the lines for your own reference.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
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