Defense Level/Reduction

Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
edited January 2010 in General Discussion
wtf is this... i had a whole thing type up and it got cut off at the first word. anyways this is what i am wondering since i started to play again. how does defense level work with armor defense. for example, one have a def level of 10 and 50% dmg reduction from armor. is the dmg reduction calculated in a one step or two step reduction process.

for the sake of calculation lets assume a dmg of 100.

one step:
100-100(.1+.5)= 40 damage dealt

two step:
100-100(.1)= 90
90-90(.5)= 45 damage dealt

there is a difference of 5 dmg for every 100 dmg dealt between the two ways of calculation... and this will add up at high end pks. since i am not holding my breath for an gm response... was wondering if anyone actually tried to test this out?
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  • Karst - Dreamweaver
    Karst - Dreamweaver Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    So

    Once upon a time...
  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Um... were you planning on actually asking something or saying something?
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Karst - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Once upon a time...
    Brigid - Harshlands wrote: »
    Um... were you planning on actually asking something or saying something?

    its the **** cut off thing when you post something in. i am not going through and retype everything... but just scribble a summary of it down.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • nimh88
    nimh88 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The damage is first filtered by your armor damage reduction, the remainder is then filtered by your defense level.

    So if you have 50% damage reduction from armor, after the first filter, the 100 damage is lowed to 50, then this remaining 50 is further filtered by your defense level of 10, so you end up receiving 45 damage. That's how I understand it.
  • Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear
    Kiyoshi - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,385 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    nimh88 wrote: »
    The damage is first filtered by your armor damage reduction, the remainder is then filtered by your defense level.

    So if you have 50% damage reduction from armor, after the first filter, the 100 damage is lowed to 50, then this remaining 50 is further filtered by your defense level of 10, so you end up receiving 45 damage. That's how I understand it.

    Thats why i assumed too... but i was aleast hoping def levels would aleast stack with armor def.

    consider that bb reduces dmg by 50%... and i am pretty much sure that i have over 50% mag/phy armor rst. is it does stack... i would have over 100% rst against all dmg... with the game engine it'll be capped at 99%. 99% rst is pretty much no dmg taken... too bad thats not the case.

    that brings up another question... would including bb turn it in to a 3 step reduction... or does 2 of those stack up.
    1. If I kill you; do something about it yourself, don't go complaining to my wife.
    2. If you have less kill counts then me, don't expect me to take pk advice from you.
    3. If you are hiding behind an alt, don't expect me to acknowledge your existence.

    Tokichiro - Heavy Armor Fish / Kiyoshi - Dual Blade Elf
  • BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear
    BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    the defense lvl filters from the original dmg meanign 100.
    so lvl 10 deff lvl means 10% less dmg. 90 out of 100
    armor halves the dmg meaning 50 out of 100 so in the end u add the % and get a total of 40 dmg out of 100. the filtering isn'T done in steps but alltogether from the original dmg should have dealth to u without u having armor on and defense lvl (hope u understood what i meant lol...not good at explaining in english)
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  • DarkGenociid - Dreamweaver
    DarkGenociid - Dreamweaver Posts: 19 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    b:thanks ^^
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    From what I understand, each factor that reduces dmg is a differen step. So you have first armor, than bless, than defence lvl (or in w/e order that happends). If it would stack a barb using invoke would have waaay more than 100% dmg reduction, capping it off at 1dmg per hit. Howerver you do deal more dmg than 1 per hit on an invoked barb (not much more, but still abit more)
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