*Do i neeed take more on MP?

Aniella - Harshlands
Aniella - Harshlands Posts: 729 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Venomancer
Hi.
I have stoped to take much points. on MP.
I got 270mag and 126HP dex 30 str 46. and since i alredy have got 6k MP, and my mag atk sux(venomacer have bad mag atk).my is HP. got 3800kHP. is 3,8k lowHP.b:sad

lvl 1 -20 i took 3str 1vit 1dex...xD
lvl20 - 60 = 1vit 4mag
lvl60-70 = 2vit 3mag
lvl70- 80 = 3vit 2mag sometimes str to my gear.
b:cry i still have LOW HP>:( my def sux. mag def is ONLY 6kb:angry
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QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL
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  • SeaStorm - Heavens Tear
    SeaStorm - Heavens Tear Posts: 315 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ok so your stats are below and you're mid 80s, running arcane armor...

    Mag: 270
    Vit: 126
    Dex: 30
    Str: 46

    Are these your white base stats?

    The vit is nice to have but that does take away from your mag, your dex...not sure why you have more than 5 in your dex. I'd move 25 from there into magic.

    Str looks good. You'll need 49 in Str for lvl 90 TT gear and weapon.

    I'd move some of the vit to magic and get gear that's + vit adds.

    My magic attack is pretty decent between the pets and me we kill normal mobs w/in 6 shots (6 if the mob is over my lvl) or less. What gear/weapon are you using? Is it sharded/refined? My hp unbuffed rotates between approx. 4400 and 4700 depending on which gear I have on at the time.
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  • Aniella - Harshlands
    Aniella - Harshlands Posts: 729 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    dex is good for pking, since i get better pys def.b:chuckle
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    QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
    Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL
  • Kashmiir - Lost City
    Kashmiir - Lost City Posts: 36 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    dex is good for pking, since i get better pys def.b:chuckle

    are you a LA veno? at higher lvls, robes with proper shards (garnets) will have comparable phys def. so you're better off moving those points to mag.

    and if you're not a LA veno.. dex doesn't give you phys def.. and 25 dex isn't going to give you a HUGE crit boost.. soo... you're still better off moving the points to mag.
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    dex gives +1% crit for every 20 points you have in it. for robe wearers I could perhaps seeing putting it up to 20 to utilize the initial 5 points, but it really seems to be a waste, as the evasion it gives you its pretty much useless against any other class that will do physical damage against you, or mobs trying to hit you. I can see a little bit of dex still being effective if you go into foxform because of the accuracy bonus fox give multiplies accuracy (+250% for sage). but stating dex to anything other than multiples of 20 seems like a huge waste.

    wow, 126 vit and still less than 4k HP. IMO venos should try to get as much HP as possible from their gear, and put their stats in more useful places. Veno probably more than the other magic classes seem to be overly drawn to -channeling gear, and while its very useful, if you focus all your gear just on channeling, and disregard other bonuses and stats, you end up with low defenses and magic attack, resulting in being able to throw weak attacks faster, and being unable to take a hit.
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  • Aniella - Harshlands
    Aniella - Harshlands Posts: 729 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i got 3,8k soon 3.9k HP and i have much channeling in my gear..i use only3* and molds/tt
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    QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
    Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL
  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Right now I have at 83: (with gear too lazy to check without)
    90 vit
    341 magic
    5 dex
    46 strength

    And I have 4k hp and pretty happy with the build.
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    "Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
    "Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
    "Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
    "So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
    ~Chobsi b:cute
  • Aniella - Harshlands
    Aniella - Harshlands Posts: 729 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    y got vit by the gear..<.<* i got 3,8k witout gear..:P
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
    Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL
  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Last time I checked my vit was 67 without gear and since then I've added atleast 3 more if not more
    so that's 18 less vit at the max
    156 hp
    so 3,944 hp..
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Chobsi the only thing your good at is making your character look good, otherwise your fail"
    "Did that 95 BM just kill himself to your Herc? Mmm..Yep"
    "Oh that thing I thought was a statue, it 1 shot me, switch to your cleric please"
    "So that Hercules guy from the disney movie really aged well.."
    ~Chobsi b:cute
  • Xkat - Dreamweaver
    Xkat - Dreamweaver Posts: 131 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You are better off putting all that dex into either magic or vitality. Unless you are an LA veno it really is not worth the 25 dex for 1% critstrike rate and what little physicsl defense and accuracy that it gives.

    Restatting your dex and 50 or so of your vitality to etter invest it into magic to boost up you mp/magic attack is more than ideal than what you have now. Refine and shard your gear with citrine gems to your best ability to attain more hp. Get physical defense from protection necklace/belt and by all means do not shard your items with sapphire shards they are the least useful for a veno and believe me, I have had a 9x veno argue with me endlessly as to why she put sapphire gems in her gear over citrines for more magic attack claiming that it enables her to drop mobs faster than any others yet she had less than 4k hp buffed. Don't make the same mistske.

    All in all, refinement and sharding are your best options to better your overall stats.
    My words of advice, lower down your expectations so that you wont set yourself up for disappointments. Expect low, aim high.

    xkat

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  • Aniella - Harshlands
    Aniella - Harshlands Posts: 729 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    to repoit my poits cost alot..and i need nex for pys.deff <.<
    also hp..bc i wnat to kill without die..
    so i don't die.when my pet do ...lol if i had take away dex and put on vit..i will have 5k:P maybe i will do that..b:laugh
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
    Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL
  • eternalnab
    eternalnab Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i have 20 base dex since open beta i thought that 2%crit is nais when i was drunk but im too lazy reset since im on PvE server :P
  • SeaStorm - Heavens Tear
    SeaStorm - Heavens Tear Posts: 315 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    My base vit at lvl 95 is 90 but changes based on the following:

    Channeling gear on: vit at 130 (approx 4400 hp unbuffed)

    Defense gear on: vit at 165 (approx 5300 hp unbuffed)

    depends on your usage and what you need what for. Yeah I'm a channeling nut when I'm tanking TT cause I can heal and DD quickly. Working on Phys Mobs in Hell...I'm going full defense.

    Magic is over 330/340 can't remember.

    Either way all goes back to how you play. yeah my extra gear takes up some room but gives me the best of both worlds so to speak.
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  • Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear
    Mystic-Night - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Take the dex out and put it into either vit or magic..plain and simple
  • SashaGray - Heavens Tear
    SashaGray - Heavens Tear Posts: 3,765 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    to repoit my poits cost alot..and i need nex for pys.deff <.<
    also hp..bc i wnat to kill without die..
    so i don't die.when my pet do ...lol if i had take away dex and put on vit..i will have 5k:P maybe i will do that..b:laugh

    whoever told you that dex gives phys def lied to you.
    Dex does nothing for phys def, if you dont need it to equip your gear, lose it.
    dex = crit +1% every 20 points, +evasion and +accuracy (and plus damage on bows) nothing else
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