Tt-90 Wep

SupaRoyalty - Lost City
SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Venomancer
I really can't decide.. but I need to. If someone could reply with the PRO's and CON's of like the best weapons that'd be great. I only know the two most popular are the wraith conquerer and the wheel of fate.
*I'm a Light Armor veno
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  • threepointone
    threepointone Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City wrote: »
    I really can't decide.. but I need to. If someone could reply with the PRO's and CON's of like the best weapons that'd be great. I only know the two most popular are the wraith conquerer and the wheel of fate.
    *I'm a Light Armor veno

    You don't need to decide if you're lvl 71, wait till you're closer to 90.

    Regardless, I picked the Wheel.
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    threepointone wrote: »
    You don't need to decide if you're lvl 71, wait till you're closer to 90.

    Regardless, I picked the Wheel.

    Yeah but i got to pick my lvl 70 wep.. which will turn into my 80 .. which will turn into my 90.
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    1.cheapest...
    2.for better petheal -channel
    3.same for +mag
    4.less squishyness comes from +vit
    5.thinking about nirvana recasting later you should stay with green till hh99 or hh100
    but oh you're lv72...b:laugh

    griefs breath->endless ambigy->wraith conqueror
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Regenbogen - Lost City wrote: »
    1.cheapest...
    2.for better petheal -channel
    3.same for +mag
    4.less squishyness comes from +vit
    5.thinking about nirvana recasting later you should stay with green till hh99 or hh100
    but oh you're lv72...b:laugh

    endless ambigy->wraith conqueror

    I'm confused at your post -_- ... if I go wraith conquerer i'd have to go Grief's Breath, to Endless Ambiguity.
  • Regenbogen - Lost City
    Regenbogen - Lost City Posts: 1,559 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City wrote: »
    I'm confused at your post -_- ... if I go wraith conquerer i'd have to go Grief's Breath, to Endless Ambiguity.

    yes you have:
    grief hh70->ambigy hh80->conqueror hh90

    frost(lv85) and lunar glade(lv95) weapons aren't as easy to obtain as wraith conqueror...
    i am waiting for you my little flagcarriers b:kiss
  • AndyNagato - Lost City
    AndyNagato - Lost City Posts: 185 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    make a wheel of life at 80, turn it into denied fate at 90. best magic weapon for you.
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't bother with a TT90 weapon. Save the money for a lunar wand - a far superior weapon. Anni packs will return, sooner or later so their price will go down again.

    I've seen lunar wands go for as cheap as 38m on my server; not a hard sum to each for a lvl90+ veno, especially when a WC costs a good 15-20m in itself unrefined and unsharded. Add to that all the previous weapons + refines/sharding and the cost will be well over 30m.

    I've used my endless ambiguity +4 from 80 to 95 and had no issues with it. One of your big xp earners will be dailies - and you seriously don't need a TT90 weapon to do them. I'm also LA, so my pet healing isn't the best, yet I had no issues doing any TT runs expected from a veno of my lvl with herc.

    I know it sounds a bit eccentric, but with a bit of effort it will work out and you will benefit hugely from it.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    axt57 wrote: »
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't bother with a TT90 weapon. Save the money for a lunar wand - a far superior weapon. Anni packs will return, sooner or later so their price will go down again.

    I've seen lunar wands go for as cheap as 38m on my server; not a hard sum to each for a lvl90+ veno, especially when a WC costs a good 15-20m in itself unrefined and unsharded. Add to that all the previous weapons + refines/sharding and the cost will be well over 30m.

    I've used my endless ambiguity +4 from 80 to 95 and had no issues with it. One of your big xp earners will be dailies - and you seriously don't need a TT90 weapon to do them. I'm also LA, so my pet healing isn't the best, yet I had no issues doing any TT runs expected from a veno of my lvl with herc.

    I know it sounds a bit eccentric, but with a bit of effort it will work out and you will benefit hugely from it.

    I guess the main issue here comes from the lack of the herc. b:cry
  • kenlee
    kenlee Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    the problem is, it takes like a day of TT runs with my guild to get my 90 weapon (and its just subs cost) while 38mil (almost double on my server) arent easy to farm.
    there are better ways to spend those money, like lunar ornaments for example since those are much better than any TT.
  • Aniella - Harshlands
    Aniella - Harshlands Posts: 729 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Buy the mold at lvl 89..only cost 2m-3m or make it by chips
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    QQ If i did Crazy stone at 3x AND not 6x, i had been lvl 105 now!
    Didnt know about Bh/CrazyStone before lvl 6x LOL
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you can get enough mats for a tt90 in a single day then you won't have an issue getting enough mats to sell for a lunar wand in a reasonable time frame - the demand for them is pretty high. I can assure you that you can find such a weapon for far cheaper then 76m, you simply havn't looked hard enough.

    Also a lunar wand is grade15, it's far more useful then a lunar ring when refined and sharded.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Vell - Heavens Tear
    Vell - Heavens Tear Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    axt57 wrote: »
    If you can get enough mats for a tt90 in a single day then you won't have an issue getting enough mats to sell for a lunar wand in a reasonable time frame - the demand for them is pretty high. I can assure you that you can find such a weapon for far cheaper then 76m, you simply havn't looked hard enough.

    Also a lunar wand is grade15, it's far more useful then a lunar ring when refined and sharded.

    Lunar gold weapons are grade 13. Also, all classes should have access to a TT99 weapon that can be made with chips + coin for under 10M, at least on my server at this time. For Archers it's the Nameless. Magic users get the Divine Aegis pataka w/ +289 phys res, +285 HP, and +2% reduced phys dmg. More about survivability than damage, but I bet you can restat your Vit into magic to increase that if you choose.

    Just thought I'd throw a cheaper alternative in there for high levels on a budget. ;)
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ok so basically you are all saying "**** the tt-90 wep" and save for a lunar wand? What weapon should I use till then? What armor is recommendable? ._.
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vell - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Lunar gold weapons are grade 13.

    Wrong. Its grade 15 and has been proven.

    http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/906/20091231141638.gif

    The TT100 has lower min dmg then the NP at +10 - yet unrefined it has 47 more. Both are supposedly grade 13.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/16094
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14914

    A NP gets +1050 damage at +12 - the same as any other grade 15 magic weapon. You can also check the refines on pwd, they confirm this.
    Also, all classes should have access to a TT99 weapon that can be made with chips + coin for under 10M, at least on my server at this time. For Archers it's the Nameless. Magic users get the Divine Aegis pataka w/ +289 phys res, +285 HP, and +2% reduced phys dmg. More about survivability than damage, but I bet you can restat your Vit into magic to increase that if you choose.

    TT99 is horrible. Not only are those stats terrible for a weapon (2% res is totally useless unless you stack it, which is unlikely) but it also binds to you so you can never sell it off.

    I'm fairly sure a lunar wand will outdamage a TT99 pataka in average damage with high refines, but pw.calc is down so I can't see for sure.

    You basically get a weapon 4 levels later, that binds to you and is worse in stats. I face palm pretty hard whenever I see a TT99 weapon on a veno.
    Just thought I'd throw a cheaper alternative in there for high levels on a budget. ;)

    If I could afford a NP so can other people. I'm a casual gamer who likes to play the market and I don't even farm TT nowadays. If a lvl99 can't afford one then they are simply bad at the game.
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City wrote: »
    Ok so basically you are all saying "**** the tt-90 wep" and save for a lunar wand? What weapon should I use till then? What armor is recommendable? ._.

    It really depends if you are confident with collecting the amount of cash needed for a lunar weapon. I assumed you had a herc when I made my initial post; not having one makes this idea a lot harder; but not impossible - after all most of my capital comes from trades and has nothing to do with fighting.

    Tbh I would seriously suggest on thinking on saving for a herc before getting a TT90 weapon. As someone mentioned and I forgot to say, the lvl89 legendery requiem blade is a very good budget choice.
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  • Vell - Heavens Tear
    Vell - Heavens Tear Posts: 23 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    axt57 wrote: »
    Wrong. Its grade 15 and has been proven.

    http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/906/20091231141638.gif

    The TT100 has lower min dmg then the NP at +10 - yet unrefined it has 47 more. Both are supposedly grade 13.

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/16094
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14914

    A NP gets +1050 damage at +12 - the same as any other grade 15 magic weapon. You can also check the refines on pwd, they confirm this.



    TT99 is horrible. Not only are those stats terrible for a weapon (2% res is totally useless unless you stack it, which is unlikely) but it also binds to you so you can never sell it off.

    I'm fairly sure a lunar wand will outdamage a TT99 pataka in average damage with high refines, but pw.calc is down so I can't see for sure.

    You basically get a weapon 4 levels later, that binds to you and is worse in stats. I face palm pretty hard whenever I see a TT99 weapon on a veno.



    If I could afford a NP so can other people. I'm a casual gamer who likes to play the market and I don't even farm TT nowadays. If a lvl99 can't afford one then they are simply bad at the game.



    It really depends if you are confident with collecting the amount of cash needed for a lunar weapon. I assumed you had a herc when I made my initial post; not having one makes this idea a lot harder; but not impossible - after all most of my capital comes from trades and has nothing to do with fighting.

    Tbh I would seriously suggest on thinking on saving for a herc before getting a TT90 weapon. As someone mentioned and I forgot to say, the lvl89 legendery requiem blade is a very good budget choice.

    You're right. I get the idea of using the refine levels to determine gear level. Just never really looked before. Grade 15 it is.

    I would easily get a Lunar over a TT99 if I could. Don't know about your server, but on mine I've never seen a Lunar weapon Insignia for less than 50M. And that's coin I really don't have. So I've chosen to fall back on the Nameless since it's unlikely I'll ever have that much or can farm the Lunar. (Of course, with the upcoming Lunar changes, who knows what will happen)

    As for the TT99 pataka, It's really not comparable to Lunar. With the + magic on the NP even at default it will average more damage per hit. I was merely trying to give an affordable option that can also be upgraded to Nirvana. I don't consider TT99 gear binding to be an issue, since from there I'm really only going for Nirvana anyways. Unless someone gives me a Lunar bow before I get the Nirvana, that is. heh
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Anyone got a link for the lunar weps / armor / mats?

    So Requiem blade.. then some uber duber lunar wep and oraments?

    And what of armor?
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Which wand are you talking about? Neon Purgatory? or White Willow Wind?
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City wrote: »
    Which wand are you talking about? Neon Purgatory? or White Willow Wind?

    Neon Purgatory. Mouse over Refine to see the refine values.

    Compare it to the refine values for the White Willow Wind. Even though both are listed as grade 13, Neon Purgatory's refine values are higher, and match those for a grade 15 weapon.
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Neon Purgatory. Mouse over Refine to see the refine values.

    Compare it to the refine values for the White Willow Wind. Even though both are listed as grade 13, Neon Purgatory's refine values are higher, and match those for a grade 15 weapon.

    Yeah I see. I haven't done any refining yet but I see what you mean. By "grade 13" do you mean lvl 13? So what about the nirvana weps?

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