Beginner Guide to NEW BH chain System for lvl 90 above

Smintboy - Sanctuary
Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
edited July 2010 in Dungeons & Tactics
Alright, There's been alot of confusion around the BH chain system & alot of people are wasting their coins on doing lots of BH. So heres a guide for lvl 90s which i been monitoring.

Linus Chain: Linus (330k exp) / Quartermaster (240k exp) / Brigand (180k exp)

Eden Chain : Phlebo ( 330k exp) / Quartermaster (240k exp) / Linus (180k exp)

Brim Chain : E.Abomination (330k exp) / Brigand (240k exp) / Linus (180k exp)

Brigand Chain : Brigand (330k exp) / Linus (240k exp) / Quartermaster (180k exp)

There is also the double BH glitch everyone been talking about:

Don't be mistaken as 6 bh a day, its only 4 bh in total.

OPTION 1

Example: you got Linus (330k exp) at 12mn server time & Phlebo (330k exp) at 12.05am

You GET to do FULL Eden Chain BH quest & one more Linus (330k exp) as a bonus.

Using this example: you can plan your bh not to waste coins by :

1st: kill Phlebo in Eden - report to Head Hunter to activate your Quartermaster (240k exp)

2nd: kill Quartermaster in Hallucinatory Trench - leave one member behind & rest report to Head hunter to activate their Linus (180k exp), then someone take over from the member whose in cave for him to activate his quest.

3rd: kill Linus in Hallucinatory Trench - AT this time All member will have Linus (330k exp) + Linus (180k exp), report back to head hunter for both Linus BH


OPTION 2

Contributed by Fleuri/ edited by Smintboy updated on 21/01/2010

Day 1: Pick up your 2 (330k exp) 1st BH. finish both & turn in. You get in return one 2nd BH (240k exp) & leave it to Day 2 to finish it

Day 2: Pick up your 2 (330k exp) 1st BH you will have 3 BH in quest list by now . Finish all 3 BH & turn in. You get in return one 2nd BH (240k exp) & one 3rd BH (180k exp), leave this to Day 3 to finish it.

Day 3: Pick up your 2 (330k exp) 1st BH you will have 4 BH in quest list by now . Finish all 4 BH & turn in. You get in return one 2nd BH (240k exp) & one 3rd BH (180k exp), leave this to Day 4 to finish it

Day 4: everyday you will have 4 active BH in quest list by repeating Day 3.
Benefit: Don't need to run about to turn in BH for 2nd or 3rd BH. Do not need to finish bosses in sequnce, do not need to check on sty door, save money on teleporting fee

Congratulation All : you get a total of 1.08 mil of EXP per day
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  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    BTW, some might be asking if you were to do linus bh first .. whill the (240k exp) & (180k exp) goes to Linus chain instead. The answer is NO. i have try 3 times. they will just give you the 2nd (330k exp) bh chain.

    For Option 2: updated on 23/01/2010

    Some might think that using this approach to do the BH will causes you to lose 2 bh on the first day & 1 last bh on the 2nd daywhen you start the cycle. But think about it, when you stop doing this BH method on X day. So on X you did your 4 bh as stated, but you will get back 2 more bh to do & get 1 more 3rd bh after you finsh the 2 bh. Meaning you didn't lose any BH at all in the end

    Cheers
  • Kawakami - Dreamweaver
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You can add a new sequence.. Brigand > Linus > Stygean
    Few people make mistakes with fire after being once burned, of people who regard water lightly many have been drowned - Yamamoto Tsunetomo
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You can add a new sequence.. Brigand > Linus > Stygean

    Thansk bro, i have updated the post. b:victory

    Heres, another infor : example if you have a existing BH Linus (180k exp) from yesterday. you won't be able to stack another BH Linus (180k exp) for today.

    Therefore, if you turn in your (240k exp) BH & get a LVL 2 Bounty Token for Linus (180k exp). you won't be able to turn in the token till you finish your exisitng one and report back to Head hunter within the next 30min.

    Congratz all.. hope you guys enjoyed my Guide for this new BH Chain System
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Smintboy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Thansk bro, i have updated the post. b:victory

    Heres, another infor : example if you have a existing BH Linus (180k exp) from yesterday. you won't be able to stack another BH Linus (180k exp) for today.

    Therefore, if you turn in your (240k exp) BH & get a LVL 2 Bounty Token for Linus (180k exp). you won't be able to turn in the token till you finish your exisitng one and report back to Head hunter within the next 30min.

    Congratz all.. hope you guys enjoyed my Guide for this new BH Chain System

    There are no concrete chains. The 1st (330k) BH can be any of the 4 from the original BHs (Brigand, Linus, Phlebo, & Ethereal). The 2nd & 3rd BHs come from a new pool (Brigand, Linus, or Stygean). So there's a possible 4x3x3 chains = 36 possible arrangements.

    Now that would include possible repeats, and i believe its already come up in the 50-59 chain that ppl have gotten Hercule>Farren>Hercule already, so this shows there's possible repeats in the chain. However, i am not entirely sure since its possible they had holdovers from a prior day, and maybe it didnt happen like that. I will list all possible ones below, & the yellow ones are ones that might be fiction. Once we get (or never get) a cycle with a repeat, it'll prove or disprove those. So there's 16 possibilities with no repeats.

    Ethereal > Brigand > Brigand**
    Ethereal > Brigand > Linus (today's btw)
    Ethereal > Brigand > Stygean
    Ethereal > Linus > Brigand
    Ethereal > Linus > Linus**
    Ethereal > Linus > Stygean
    Ethereal > Stygean > Brigand
    Ethereal > Stygean > Linus
    Ethereal > Stygean > Stygean**
    Phlebo > Brigand > Brigand**
    Phlebo > Brigand > Linus
    Phlebo > Brigand > Stygean
    Phlebo > Linus > Brigand
    Phlebo > Linus > Linus**
    Phlebo > Linus > Stygean
    Phlebo > Stygean > Brigand
    Phlebo > Stygean > Linus
    Phlebo > Stygean > Stygean**
    Brigand > Brigand > Brigand***
    Brigand > Brigand > Linus**
    Brigand > Brigand > Stygean**
    Brigand > Linus > Brigand**
    Brigand > Linus > Linus***
    Brigand > Linus > Stygean
    Brigand > Stygean > Brigand**
    Brigand > Stygean > Linus
    Brigand > Stygean > Stygean**
    Linus > Brigand > Brigand**
    Linus > Brigand > Linus**
    Linus > Brigand > Stygean
    Linus > Linus > Brigand**
    Linus > Linus > Linus***
    Linus > Linus > Stygean**
    Linus > Stygean > Brigand
    Linus > Stygean > Linus**
    Linus > Stygean > Stygean**
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Dark, no offence. but i guess you didn't understand my 1st and 2nd post.

    So let me say it again:

    as the example i quoted: getting Linus at 12mn server time & Phlebo at 12.05am

    Even if you do Linus (330k exp) first without doing Phlebo (330k exp)

    your 2nd bh (240k exp) will comfirm be Quartermaster & 3rd bh (180k exp) will be Linus again.

    Cos the system takes the 240k & 180k BH from the 12.05am BH chain,

    So liked i said. they give you a full Eden chain consist of (Phlebo - 330k / Quartermaster - 240k / Linus 180k) + (Linus -330k Bonus)
    This will help you plan how you do your bh 79 in one wine run. not wasting more wine & time on another run

    you can montior your own BH for a few days and compare with my findings. alot of ppl in my server has alrdy agreed with my finding.
  • Darksylph - Heavens Tear
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,816 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Smintboy - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Dark, no offence. but i guess you didn't understand my 1st and 2nd post.

    So let me say it again:

    as the example i quoted: getting Linus at 12mn server time & Phlebo at 12.05am

    Even if you do Linus (330k exp) first without doing Phlebo (330k exp)

    your 2nd bh (240k exp) will comfirm be Quartermaster & 3rd bh (180k exp) will be Linus again.

    Cos the system takes the 240k & 180k BH from the 12.05am BH chain,

    So liked i said. they give you a full Eden chain consist of (Phlebo - 330k / Quartermaster - 240k / Linus 180k) + (Linus -330k Bonus)
    This will help you plan how you do your bh 79 in one wine run. not wasting more wine & time on another run

    you can montior your own BH for a few days and compare with my findings. alot of ppl in my server has alrdy agreed with my finding.

    I posted your findings several days before you had, in a post here. My main point was that you list 4 paths as if they are a way to predict which bosses you'll need in what order. But in fact all you can know is the 2nd & 3rd will be in FB79.

    The main problem that people have with the wining, is if they need Brig or Linus before needing Stygean, but they were forced to kill Stygean to open the door to get to Brigand or Linus (50/50 chance on Stygean or Hooli door). What people really need to plan, so they dont need a multi-wine in 79, is to go in & not wine initially, but to fight their way to the Stygean/Hooli door room, check & ensure that Hooli's door is the one thats open, or reset if its Stygeans door. Then once the proper door is indeed open, wine the instance.
  • Dimen - Sanctuary
    Dimen - Sanctuary Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Thank you Smintboy this was a very useful guide for me!
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Darksylph - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I posted your findings several days before you had, in a post here. My main point was that you list 4 paths as if they are a way to predict which bosses you'll need in what order. But in fact all you can know is the 2nd & 3rd will be in FB79.

    The main problem that people have with the wining, is if they need Brig or Linus before needing Stygean, but they were forced to kill Stygean to open the door to get to Brigand or Linus (50/50 chance on Stygean or Hooli door). What people really need to plan, so they dont need a multi-wine in 79, is to go in & not wine initially, but to fight their way to the Stygean/Hooli door room, check & ensure that Hooli's door is the one thats open, or reset if its Stygeans door. Then once the proper door is indeed open, wine the instance.

    YES with you knowing whats your 2nd & 3rd bh (LUCKILY THEY DO NOT GIVE SAME BOSSES). you could actually plan which boss to kill or not to kill first . Some players are always killing Linus for a 330k exp then they will find themselve getting another Linus for a 180k exp.. meaning they have to spent extra run.

    As for Quartermaster, here is my advice. 2 path to take -

    1st - like you have mention. clear the path till STY door to check
    OR

    2nd - get a Barb to run in to check door is closed then he have to run out by the portal so the mobs will not follow him anymore & contiune to pay up and wine.

    I appreciate you having a earlier post. but it doesn't states whats we will be getting for the 240k or 180k BH

    With my post.. its alot clearer for ppl to know what they will get ( not predict its been comfirmed )and they can stack up like for my example stack up the Linus 330k & Linus 180k exp if they kill linus as the last boss.
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    To make eveyone know what i meant by planning

    Heres a 2nd example,

    We receive Brigand BH (330k exp ) at 12am & Brim BH (330k exp) at 12.05am server time.

    From the 4 chain i posted, my squad and me knew we would get 2nd BH (240k exp) & 3rd BH (180k exp) as Brigand & Linus respectively no matter we kill Brigand or E.abomination.

    Therefore, we planned ahead to kill E.abomination first & turn in our BH and get a 2nd BH (Brigand 240k exp).

    Since we knew that we do not need Stygean at all, we did not bother to check Stygean door.
    We went ahead kill Brigand & turn in our (330k exp) & (240k exp) Brigand BH. while one member stayed behind to keep cave from resetting.

    Lastly, after all turned in our BH brigand & got Linus for our 3rd BH (180k exp)
    we kill Linus. and finish up our whole BH for the day.

    We saved ourselve from an extra wined BH run for Brigand.

    Cheers to all
  • Ence - Lost City
    Ence - Lost City Posts: 454 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hey! Thanks for putting up such a useful guide. I've added this to the Comprehensive List of Quest Guides.

    If for some reason you don't want your guide here, please let me know in the thread or PM me and I'll take off the link.

    -Ence
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I have an approach which seems different from how other people have been describing doing this:

    I turn in my treasure hunter quests the day after I pick them up.

    This means I lose no quests. This means I do not have to teleport back anywhere. My treasure hunter quests are very easy and non-stressful for me.

    (Currently, I have been holding instances open when everyone else spends their money on teleports [or, even worse, spend their time on flying], but I am hoping that, one day, my entire squad will realize the superiority of this approach and save me from having to wait for them to do all their traveling.)

    Am I making sense? I imagine I am not making sense, because I have explained this countless time and I usually get total silence in response, perhaps followed by discussion of who stays behind when everyone teleports out to get their next quest.

    So, let me try an example:

    Tuesday, I pick up my treasure hunter quest, and go kill my treasure hunter "boss target".

    Wednesday, I turn in my treasure hunter quest and pick up two quests. This will be my first wednesday quest and my second tuesday quest.

    Thursday, I turn in my two treasure hunter quests and pick up three quests. This will be my first thursday quest, my second wednesday quest and my third tuesday quest.

    Friday, I turn in my three treasure hunter quests and pick up three quests. I pick up my first friday quest, my second thursday quest and my third thursday quest.

    This would probably get messed up, by the way, if I ever turn in some quests and I have not completed every one of my treasure hunter quests. One problem would be that I do not know which quest I am turning in until I have turned it in. Another problem would be that I only have 30 minutes to pick up my next quest after completing one of them. If I turn them all in together these issues do not cause problems for me.

    Another way this could be messed up would be if I picked up a new quest before doing yesterday's quests. Yes, I could do four quests this way (and possibly I could be doing multiple quests on the same boss), but when I do, I lose one of my second quests and thus one of my third quests that I could have done later.

    If you can consistently run four quests, day after day, that would be interesting [but I am not going to stay up until server midnight, and mess up my current low-price and low-stress approach, to try that stunt].
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Fleuri - Sanctuary wrote: »
    So, let me try an example:

    Tuesday, I pick up my treasure hunter quest, and go kill my treasure hunter "boss target".

    Wednesday, I turn in my treasure hunter quest and pick up two quests. This will be my first wednesday quest and my second tuesday quest.

    Thursday, I turn in my two treasure hunter quests and pick up three quests. This will be my first thursday quest, my second wednesday quest and my third tuesday quest.

    Friday, I turn in my three treasure hunter quests and pick up three quests. I pick up my first friday quest, my second thursday quest and my third thursday quest.

    This would probably get messed up, by the way, if I ever turn in some quests and I have not completed every one of my treasure hunter quests. One problem would be that I do not know which quest I am turning in until I have turned it in. Another problem would be that I only have 30 minutes to pick up my next quest after completing one of them. If I turn them all in together these issues do not cause problems for me.

    Another way this could be messed up would be if I picked up a new quest before doing yesterday's quests. Yes, I could do four quests this way (and possibly I could be doing multiple quests on the same boss), but when I do, I lose one of my second quests and thus one of my third quests that I could have done later.

    If you can consistently run four quests, day after day, that would be interesting [but I am not going to stay up until server midnight, and mess up my current low-price and low-stress approach, to try that stunt].

    Alrite, from your approach. i can only understand that you ain't working on all 4 BH per server day.

    Tuesday - you only did 1st BH (330k exp)

    Wednesday - turn in your Tuesday 1st BH(330 exp) to get a Tuesday 2nd BH (240k exp) + picking Wednesday 1st BH (330k exp).

    Thursday - turn in your Tuesday & wednesday BH to get Tuesday 3rd BH(180k exp) + Wednesday 2nd BH (240k exp) + Thurdays 1st BH (330k exp)

    Friday - will turn out to be the same for what happen on thursday.

    So taking from you last 2 days - your will be finishing 3 quest per day with only 750k exp a day.

    YES it would be simple becus you have 3 quest all activated at the same time.
    But due to the fact that this is an international server, the 12MN server time doesn't mean its other player's night time. So, we are actually get more exp than usual due to the fact of the glitch. (Unless PWI fix the glitch, everyone won't be at headhutner at 12mn b:chuckle)

    & i can olso suggest with your example - try to turn all your bh in at 12MN server time. to get all 3 BH and wait for 12.05 to get a 4th one.
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    So heres, the new theory:

    Tuesday - picking up 2 BH at 12MN & 12.05am (both 330k exp), finish both of it. but do not turn in for 2nd BH (240k exp)

    Wednesday - at 12MN turn in your all BH, pick up Tuesday's 2nd BH (240k exp) + pick up Wednesday's both BH (330k exp) at 12mn and 12.05am

    Thursday - turn in all BH at 12MN, pick up Tuesday's 3rd BH (180k exp) + Wednesday's 2nd BH (240k) + Thursday both BH (330k exp) at 12 MN & 12.05am.

    Friday - doing the same from here on for every single day. (everday having 4 BH activated at the same time)

    Thanks for your contribution Fleuri, i will try this out for abit. if its provment to works, i will be recommending it. and everyone shld benefit from this
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Alright Fleuri's theory has been provment to work. and with my extra advice. i am currently holding 4 BH a day at the same time.

    Thanks Fleuri, i have updated the 1st & 2nd post.

    GUYS HURRY UP USE THIS METHOD OF DOING BH. HURRAY
  • Fleuri - Sanctuary
    Fleuri - Sanctuary Posts: 1,763 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    They have changed the BH system so that you can tell which order you turn in quests. You can not tell which BH I quest you are turning in, which can still mess you up if you are not careful, but you can turn every BH I quest into a chain with II and III if you are willing to do so.

    So, if you can really get two BH I quests in a day, you should be able to do six that day. If you can get three BH I quests you should be able to do nine, and so on. (Edit: I have not tested this yet, and you might need your BH I to be from different days to get multiple BH II and BH III on the same day.)

    In other words: you should not turn in a BH I quest until you have an empty BH II spot (and do not turn in a BH II quest until you have an empty BH II spot).

    Unfortunately, when you do a second and third run of BH quests in a day you can sometimes bring back that whole "go to town mentality" -- when you get confused and guess blindly about which quest you need to turn in and mess up your chains.
  • eldunari
    eldunari Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i jsut did a bh run and it went Phlebo>stygean>brig wich wastn part of you list just to let ya know
  • Smintboy - Sanctuary
    Smintboy - Sanctuary Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    eldunari wrote: »
    i jsut did a bh run and it went Phlebo>stygean>brig wich wastn part of you list just to let ya know

    I guess you didn't read clearly what i posted. Did you get Phlebo @ 12mn & Linus @ 12.05am?

    This will give you the Linus chain + Phlebo as extra. so even if you do Phlebo first & turn in to Head Hunter, your 2nd bh given to you will be Stygean then 3rd Brig.
  • ReaperTao - Lost City
    ReaperTao - Lost City Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i got two question
    is there a camra angle in this game

    how can i make a guild or is it just preset guilds
  • amgrim222
    amgrim222 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    1 time when im doing BH79 there is a part that you need to kill tower to open the door through linus/brig .but instead of killing the tower the barb just pass thru that doorand lure stygen which is not normal for me.

    can someone tell how did he do that? i try to talk to him but he didnot want me to know

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