Lv 90 Weapons?

Asperitas - Lost City wrote: »

Hey, sorry for the potentially noob question. My girlfriend's getting up to 90, and I'm thinking of starting to collect mats for her weapon.

Currently, I'm debating between Wheel of Denied Fate and Wraith Conqueror. I realize the wheel gives more attack, while wraith conqueror offers more vit.

Which one would be the better choice among the two, and why?

Or are there better options out there?

It's all a matter of personal preference. For me, I would chose the wraith conqueror because I like magic swords which give spike dmg plus i wouldnt mind the channeling add. If you want bigger range of magic attack or more power, go for wheel of denied fate glaive plus it has channeling add so that is nice too.

magerocks wrote: »

It's all a matter of personal preference. For me, I would chose the wraith conqueror because I like magic swords which give spike dmg plus i wouldnt mind the channeling add. If you want bigger range of magic attack or more power, go for wheel of denied fate glaive plus it has channeling add so that is nice too.

Glaives give more spike damage, because they have a bigger max damage compacity and a lower minimum, so they get the big numbers and smaller numbers.

So in my opinion the weapon is dependent on what build you are.
Vit/Arcane, I'd go with wheel because you already sacrificed some damage for vit so you can make up for some of it with the weapon.
Pure/LA I'd go with wraith conqueror for the added vit and more damage stability so you dont have random numbers especially with LA's crits I find it nicer on my LA chars to have a weapon with more stability to kind of balance it out.
But this is just my opinion
To each his or her own

There is an absolute answer, Use the Wraith.....

As venos we have the lowest (by a wide margin i might add) mag att in the game. Our skills (even sage or demon) do NOT compensate for that fact.

Using anything other than a sword or a wand for a veno is not wise. Sure you have the chance to hit a LITTLE harder. but on average you will be doing less dmg and less dmg for an already nerfed character (bc we have pets) is stupid...

The ONLY arguement i can see is if you were pure mag. But even then we are no match for our other magic counterparts. Clerics/Wizzies/Psy's will always have the upper hand, why would you want to hurt yourself even more by using a glaive or patake that has such a huge spread?

kenlee wrote: »

i didnt bother with all the equipment but here it is
Wraith Conquerer(3091-3730)
vs
Wheel of Denied Fate(3068-4346)
for pve, i think most will get the second one

I stand corrected...

I didnt take into account the increase in mag attack the Denied Fate has. Taking it into account puts its min attack around the same min as the wraith. This is one of the very few glaives that has this stat and I still insist that Glaives and Patakas shouldnt be used imo (except for this thing or others with that stat).

But I am willing to acknowledge that I am wrong on this. Good show.

AndyNagato - Lost City wrote: »

the glaive does make for unstable heals, though. id prefer the sword, or even a decently refined alacantha: sunflame for a weapon to use until 95/99. it saves you alot of trouble by having consistent heals in TT when tanking those huge bosses, you dont want a high end one, then a low end after say a magic+melee combo upon your pet.

But if the glaive's low-end heal is about the same as the sword's, then its unstable heals don't matter. Worst case you'll heal about the same as the sword, average you'll heal more than the sword, and best case you'll heal a lot more than the sword.

For venos 1vit=12 hp, so 12 vit= 144 HP.
At the same time if you want more damage, since she already has 50 vit go with wheel.
HP can be gained from refines and shards, where as magic attack isnt as easy to obtain so I'd look at wheel

I am LA with extra vit, so Wraith's +vit isnt too needed for me. I more seek for higher damage, so naturaly WoDF was more tempting for me.

@SeaStorm - lvl99 weapons doesnt really matter this time... at 90s you usually quite nicely upgrade your weapon, so it is waste to decompose it to get lvl99 weapon. Cheaper is to get a pure lvl90 weapon for decomposing and sell upgraded one.

To my preference, the lvl 90 GX magic sword is one of the best. But if i had to choose between the wraith conqueror and wheel of denied fate, i would pick wraith conqueror. Also most of the time u should choose the weapon which fits her stats. I'm choosing the wraith conqueror because the +magic would help heaps and i'm switching to heavy armor so i need all the -channeling i can get and the stats points i can find.