Soloing TT

Tatuaje - Lost City
Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Venomancer
Can a Veno without a herc solo a TT run??

And if they can, with what pet?

I currently have a 77 Glacial walker.
tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
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  • /NiKi - Lost City
    /NiKi - Lost City Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    if ur talking about single mode,then yeah.squad mode requires herc.
    shadou cub,glacial walker and magmite can tank single mode..not sure about other pets.
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Is there a thread that talks about how to Solo TT. I am sorta new to TT so I was hoping to get a little reading in about it.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • Vitenka - Dreamweaver
    Vitenka - Dreamweaver Posts: 4,125 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You, uh...

    You send your pet to attack.
    And then you heal your pet like crazy.

    If the boss turns out to be weak enough that your pet can go without healing for a second, you cast attack spells too.

    I'm not really sure what you want from a guide.

    Edit: Oh, I guess mentioning how to open squad-mode would help.
    You need a squad of at least four people, the leader must be of high enough level to open the mode you want opened, and everyone must be present in the pillar room (that is - gone into TT, gone THROUGH the act selection pillar and be waiting for the door to open)
    Once the door is open THEN you can change leader and everyone who doens't want to stay can leave / additional people can join / whatever.
  • Tatuaje - Lost City
    Tatuaje - Lost City Posts: 2,780 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I guess I meant really was since I only have a Galcial walker I'll be being doing solo mode.

    Do I need to gather ult subs for this?

    I've really only focused my days into helping faction members and getting into fun PK fights.

    I'll gather more info in-game I guess tonight from some members in-guild.

    Also, how long does a solo TT 1-1 take? since that will be my first attempt.
    tatuaje: grinding mobs and zhenning ???
    frankieraye:All right, I admit it, it's a bit retro. lol.
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I want a list of the TT-RUNS we can solo!!! THANKS
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City wrote: »
    I want a list of the TT-RUNS we can solo!!! THANKS

    Who the hell is "we"? Its hard to say what others can solo due to different factors such as: survivability, level, armour type, pets, gear, etc. Also, saying please would be helpful.

    Generally, you can solo all solo solo-mode instances the level that you can open them with a decent tank pet such as: magmites, the new magmite, shaodu cub, and obviously hercules. For ones that you can solo in squad mode, look it up on the wiki/forums.
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Generally, you can solo all solo solo-mode instances the level that you can open them with a decent tank pet such as: magmites, the new magmite, shaodu cub, and obviously hercules. For ones that you can solo in squad mode, look it up on the wiki/forums.

    Magmites? - You do understand that Magmites have very low mdef, and TT bosses have much higher matk than patk? To tank 1-1 with a magmite at level 60 you have to have an unreasonable amount of matk. The question is also: "without a herc".

    You could put rare skills (buffs) on a free pet, but you'd be better off spending the coin on a far superior Hercules (for TT).
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  • magerocks
    magerocks Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Magmites? - You do understand that Magmites have very low mdef, and TT bosses have much higher matk than patk? To tank 1-1 with a magmite at level 60 you have to have an unreasonable amount of matk. The question is also: "without a herc".

    You could put rare skills (buffs) on a free pet, but you'd be better off spending the coin on a far superior Hercules (for TT).

    If you want to solo a TTrun with magmite let's say TT1-1, lvl ur pet a little more with enough magic defense to solo the run. I won't recommend doing it at 60. Level it a little more then your fine. Tweakz you would expect everyone to get a herc, but you forget that some people can't afford one.
  • LloydAsplund - Sanctuary
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary Posts: 3,899 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Magmites? - You do understand that Magmites have very low mdef, and TT bosses have much higher matk than patk? To tank 1-1 with a magmite at level 60 you have to have an unreasonable amount of matk.

    I did 1-1 solo at level 60 with a magmite. Didnt have no spectacular gear. You do understand that even if they do have low mdef, they can still tank the TT right?
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  • magerocks
    magerocks Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I did 1-1 solo at level 60 with a magmite. Didnt have no spectacular gear. You do understand that even if they do have low mdef, they can still tank the TT right?

    This man is speaking from experience, so he can be right. b:cute
    I didn't know that i could solo TTrun at lvl 60, and i ask several venos. They told me to lvl a little more just to be safe, so i did. Now I realize that it's possible to solo TTrun at 60 with magmite. b:victory
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    magerocks wrote: »
    Tweakz you would expect everyone to get a herc, but you forget that some people can't afford one.

    Yep, if you're buying oracles to level, doing dailies to level (especially crazy stone), etc, your priority is XP and you're not likely to enjoy the game as much with the limitations you stick yourself with including not being able to afford a Herc. I don't expect everyone to get a Herc. -That's just a cheap attack. I could likewise say that you expect everyone to prioritize leveling at the expense of gear, skills, pets, pet skills, enjoyment, etc.
    LloydAsplund - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I did 1-1 solo at level 60 with a magmite. Didnt have no spectacular gear. You do understand that even if they do have low mdef, they can still tank the TT right?

    At lvl. 60 and even past 70, you can easily level daily which can make even decent gear a waste of time hunting down and waste of coin purchasing. Our pet heal can be upgraded at level 63, so aside from using a Glacial Walker (which was only recently introduced), I believe it would be better advice to level to 63 to get the better pet heal before attempting solo 1-1 with a magmite. I skipped dailies, got perks from my alt (robe of blood might, TT60 weapon), and still failed to solo solo TT1-1 with a magmite and a frogling. I believe there are some Beatles that could have worked, but the time spent leveling those could have been time spent leveling yourself to 63, and they wouldn't have killed as fast. Yes, low mdef can work BUT my argument was based on pet healing which was a very common issue for venos at the time.
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  • magerocks
    magerocks Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    tweakz wrote: »
    Yep, if you're buying oracles to level, doing dailies to level (especially crazy stone), etc, your priority is XP and you're not likely to enjoy the game as much with the limitations you stick yourself with including not being able to afford a Herc. I don't expect everyone to get a Herc. -That's just a cheap attack. I could likewise say that you expect everyone to prioritize leveling at the expense of gear, skills, pets, pet skills, enjoyment, etc.

    So are you telling me that I'm not going to have much fun in the game without a herc? Let me tell you this: I'm happy to do my role as a veno by pulling, debuffing bosses, and passing sparks to tanks. I don't care if I don't have a herc. That's not going to stop me from having fun in this game. You know what? Even if I don't have a herc, maybe someday I'll get one. I'm in no hurry to get one. To me, a herc is just a great reward for taking pride in the game. Btw I'm lvl 70 veno and I have 3000 source of force so far. I feel like each time i get more SOF I feel im getting closer and closer everyday. I have decent gear with sharding and refining and do dailies. I keep my magmite at decent lvl with up to date pet skills. You speak of efficiency and that's good but sometimes people have to be happy with what they got and use it to their advantage.
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    magerocks wrote: »
    I didn't know that i could solo TTrun at lvl 60, and i ask several venos. They told me to lvl a little more just to be safe, so i did. Now I realize that it's possible to solo TTrun at 60 with magmite. b:victory
    TT solo mode is pretty easy. Doing TT1-1 squad mode solo at 60 with a magmite is out of the question. A friend and I tried it duo at 61 and 59 with a magmite tanking and both of us spam-healing. It lived about 20 seconds against the first boss.
  • SaintDominic - Sanctuary
    SaintDominic - Sanctuary Posts: 284 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    TT solo mode is pretty easy. Doing TT1-1 squad mode solo at 60 with a magmite is out of the question. A friend and I tried it duo at 61 and 59 with a magmite tanking and both of us spam-healing. It lived about 20 seconds against the first boss.

    My veno did it at lvl 65, and it wasn't that bad.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    magerocks wrote: »
    So are you telling me that I'm not going to have much fun in the game without a herc? Let me tell you this: I'm happy to do my role as a veno by pulling, debuffing bosses, and passing sparks to tanks. I don't care if I don't have a herc. That's not going to stop me from having fun in this game. You know what? Even if I don't have a herc, maybe someday I'll get one.

    Why bother? Won't you have as much fun w/o one?

    Btw I'm lvl 70 veno and I have 3000 source of force so far.

    I think I was around lv 74 before I got my Herc.
    I feel like each time i get more SOF I feel im getting closer and closer everyday. I have decent gear with sharding and refining and do dailies. I keep my magmite at decent lvl with up to date pet skills.

    If you realize that dailies are designed to interfere with your coin to xp ratio, and that your magmite will be made obsolete when you do get a Herc, then I'm happy for you wasting skills on a magmite. You go girl, and don't let me stop you.
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  • Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver
    Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver Posts: 552 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I've got a quick question on soloing TTs... which one of the TTs is actually worth doing on solo mode (worth the subs) cuz I hear that the TT1-1 isn't worth it.

    Also... how do you solo squad mode? Doesn't it require 4 people to open it?
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  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Teh_fishey - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    ]Also... how do you solo squad mode? Doesn't it require 4 people to open it?

    It's been a long time, but I'd often offer a mirage for help opening. I have 3 boxes, so I only need one to help.
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yes you need 4 people, but they just have to be there when you open it. They can leave the squad after. If you don't have extra computers, just ask some of the people hanging around for help. You can bribe them like tweakz suggests if you need.

    Been a while since I sold TT mats. Lemme see if I can remember HT prices...

    1-1 edges: about 50-80k
    1-1 broken drum: 100k

    1-2 armor shards: 25-50k
    1-2 framework of drum: 175-200k

    1-3 chin's plate: 10-20k
    1-3 war drum: 400-500k (note: I never got one in a dozen 1-3 solo runs)

    2-1 lion skin: 25-40k
    2-1 forshura's armor: 700-800k
    2-1 feng's black armor: 100-200k
    2-1 forshura's black orb, feng's steel armor - I've never gotten these gold mats

    2-2 lion claws: 125k-150k
    2-2 forshura's hook: less than 100k
    2-2 feng's iron bars: 200-300k

    Prices on other servers will vary, but that should give you an idea which mats are the most valuable. I had pretty good luck with forshura's armor in my early 70s (wurlord is easy in solo mode, a monster in squad mode), but the drop rate overall in solo mode is pretty poor. It used to be the mirages you got helped compensate for the bad runs. But those were nerfed to perfect stones around the time genies were added.

    I found it much more lucrative to get together with 3 friends and quickly farm 2-1 squad mode subbed for giant apes teeth over and over. You need 8 teeth to make TT80 weapons, so they're in high demand, easy to sell for 400-500k each. And Cosmo is the second boss in on a 2-1 subbed run. Don't think you can do 2-1 lion or Cosmo without a herc. But they are straight melee so a magmite with Strong should be able to tank them.
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    So how far have you peeps gotten with a glacial walker/magmite in 2-1? or in Those instances he stated?
  • GodsCaster - Heavens Tear
    GodsCaster - Heavens Tear Posts: 86 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    So.. uhm i was wondering.. i should be able to let my level 78 ish mag or cub.. tank 1-1 without a problem.. but what tt would be my limit.. ive given up on saving for a herc.. until i find some decent money making methods.. especially with 7.5k per SoF.. doesnt seem worth it but hey.
  • EviIDee - Heavens Tear
    EviIDee - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I found it much more lucrative to get together with 3 friends and quickly farm 2-1 squad mode subbed for giant apes teeth over and over. You need 8 teeth to make TT80 weapons, so they're in high demand, easy to sell for 400-500k each. And Cosmo is the second boss in on a 2-1 subbed run. Don't think you can do 2-1 lion or Cosmo without a herc. But they are straight melee so a magmite with Strong should be able to tank them.

    If I understand you correctly, Cosmo is doable with a herc? I am currently pure magic level 83 with a same level herc. When I run 2-2 squad mode I normally skip Feng, Wurlord, and Cosmo and just kill Fataliqua, Soulripper, and Astral. It was my understanding that Cosmo was beyond the ability of a herc, so I've never tried him in 2-1 or 2-2. However, if it is possible then that's perfect for upcoming friends needing teeth for 80 weapons.

    Thanks in advance.
  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yes, 2-1 Cosmo has no self-buff like he does in 2-2 and 2-3. He's about as hard as 2-1 Fataliqua.
  • EviIDee - Heavens Tear
    EviIDee - Heavens Tear Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Yes, 2-1 Cosmo has no self-buff like he does in 2-2 and 2-3. He's about as hard as 2-1 Fataliqua.

    Thank you for the info! Knowledge is power as they say.
  • SupaRoyalty - Lost City
    SupaRoyalty - Lost City Posts: 516 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Someone needs to make a guide or add to the TT guide :D for venos.

    Doable Instances/Bosses With a herc at X level:

    1)...
    2)..
    ...
    at X level:
    1)...
    2)...
    ..

    Doable Instances with no herc at X level: (glacial walker)
    1)...
    2)..
    ..

    Would help me tons and probably others!

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