Why cant i unbound??

HatedSoul - Sanctuary
HatedSoul - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
edited February 2011 in General Discussion
my problem is i cant unbound my old gear but the weird thing is .. on the gear itself states : if unbound , u can decompose in to bla bla ....

so i ticket ask unbound pls and get the answer this is not possible bla bla, kinda weird lol why does it state on gear if unbound then??? doesnt say on the charms neither o.o or what will happen if i destroy ? is the bound gone ? or ur intire gear item is vanished ?
I MISS AYANOb:cryb:sad
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  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Bound gear cannot be unbound. Well it can, but it will destroy the item.

    You would think a lvl 100 would know this..
  • HatedSoul - Sanctuary
    HatedSoul - Sanctuary Posts: 291 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    then why does it say on gears if unbound u can decompose means u can unbound dont u think?? we getting fooled
    I MISS AYANOb:cryb:sad
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you used a binding charm, the charm clearly states what will happen to the gear if unbound.

    If you think your getting fooled maybe you should read the item before using it, dont you think?
  • Narore - Lost City
    Narore - Lost City Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    HatedSoul - Sanctuary wrote: »
    then why does it say on gears if unbound u can decompose means u can unbound dont u think?? we getting fooled

    It means if the gear is UNBOUND meaning HASN'T actually been bound at all you can decompose, but if you have bound it then HA!
  • Peritia - Lost City
    Peritia - Lost City Posts: 397 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The phrasing is slightly ambiguous, but the meaning should be quite obvious:

    "Unbound" in this context is understood to mean "has not been bound", and not a meaning of "has had binding reversed" (which is impossible). Ergo:

    If the item has NOT BEEN BOUND, it may be decomposed into... etc.

    Bound items can only be kept, or destroyed.

    EDIT: Should mention that, if indeed the meaning were the latter (in red), the text would be stating that in order to decompose gear you would first need to bind it, then "unbind" it again. Doesn't make much sense, does it?
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  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    how does this work then for tideborn TT weapons, the 90 and 99 are gold, and i believe you need the soul edge of one to make the other. what're you to do?
  • Padixeric - Sanctuary
    Padixeric - Sanctuary Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Peritia explained it quite well i think
    Bound items can only be kept, or destroyed.

    or now with the account stash: passed over to another char on same account
    (equals be kept though ^^)

    decomposable:
    'auto-binding gear' - meaning manufactured gear that gets bound on wearing
    --> not been equiped, so it isn't bound --> those you can decompose

    'normal gear'
    --> if you used a binding charm, well that's over too
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Padixeric - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Peritia explained it quite well i think



    or now with the account stash: passed over to another char on same account
    (equals be kept though ^^)

    decomposable:
    'auto-binding gear' - meaning manufactured gear that gets bound on wearing
    --> not been equiped, so it isn't bound --> those you can decompose

    'normal gear'
    --> if you used a binding charm, well that's over too
    i think youre extremely incorrect. they wouldnt make it that way if you had to decomp it to make the 99. your theory is a tad ridicolous, as i wouldnt have my 90 daggers unequipped for 9 long levels only to be thrown away for the next pair.
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i think youre extremely incorrect. they wouldnt make it that way if you had to decomp it to make the 99. your theory is a tad ridicolous, as i wouldnt have my 90 daggers unequipped for 9 long levels only to be thrown away for the next pair.

    Nope, it's compelty correct. You jsut have to make a new TT90 daggers to decompose to make the TT99 dagers.
    Just as you have to make a new set of TT armor if you decide to get your TT90 gold and also want the TT99 gold
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Padixeric - Sanctuary
    Padixeric - Sanctuary Posts: 72 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    prove me wrong, i'd really like that Lenn_, i really would
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    prove yourself right, and then i will concede, because quite frankly theres a huge lack of evidence to support the former and the latter. no other gear takes 'soul edges' of gold gear to make last i saw, and theres kind of a lack of 90+ tideborns to prove it true or false.
    Nope, it's compelty correct. You jsut have to make a new TT90 daggers to decompose to make the TT99 dagers.
    Just as you have to make a new set of TT armor if you decide to get your TT90 gold and also want the TT99 gold
    two completely unrelated topics.

    99 gold takes 90 green soul edges.

    the tideborn 99 weapons take gold soul edges of 90 gold weapons, hence why it makes no sense
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    prove yourself right, and then i will concede, because quite frankly theres a huge lack of evidence to support the former and the latter. no other gear takes 'soul edges' of gold gear to make last i saw, and theres kind of a lack of 90+ tideborns to prove it true or false.


    two completely unrelated topics.

    99 gold takes 90 green soul edges.

    the tideborn 99 weapons take gold soul edges of 90 gold weapons, hence why it makes no sense

    Before you start, realize the current situation of things.
    And they are, that any bound equipment will be destroyed.

    So one will assume since TB are new and dev's in fact did not add all nor did they remove all bugs. So please refer from stating things that are irrelevant to this topic.
    b:dirty
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    prove yourself right, and then i will concede, because quite frankly theres a huge lack of evidence to support the former and the latter. no other gear takes 'soul edges' of gold gear to make last i saw, and theres kind of a lack of 90+ tideborns to prove it true or false.


    two completely unrelated topics.

    99 gold takes 90 green soul edges.

    the tideborn 99 weapons take gold soul edges of 90 gold weapons, hence why it makes no sense

    You can believe me or denie it, but it's the best awneser you'll get until someone tests it
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    You can believe me or denie it, but it's the best awneser you'll get until someone tests it
    youre comparing apples to oranges. youre mentioning things that take green souledges, not ones from gold gear. theyre two completely different subjects.

    imagine if blade of red dust took a soul edge from alacantha sunflame. that'd be super weird right?
    Before you start, realize the current situation of things.
    And they are, that any bound equipment will be destroyed.

    So one will assume since TB are new and dev's in fact did not add all nor did they remove all bugs. So please refer from stating things that are irrelevant to this topic.

    its not irrelevent, it was a topic of unbinding/decomposition, and i asked a legitimate question on how the mechanic works. all ive recieved were strange theories, and not proof to either one.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn i wonder, did you ever posses gold gear, or you know anyone who has it?
    Did you ask them what happens when they unbound?
    b:dirty
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    youre comparing apples to oranges. youre mentioning things that take green souledges, not ones from gold gear. theyre two completely different subjects.

    imagine if blade of red dust took a soul edge from alacantha sunflame. that'd be super weird right?

    I'm using the facts
    TT99 gold TB weapon uses a souledge from the TT90 gold weapon, which also sais it can be decomposed into this souledge. If you know any other way to explain it, I'm all ear

    EDIT@nelae: That's a no from me, does anything special happends when you decompose normal gold gear?
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  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Lenn i wonder, did you ever posses gold gear, or you know anyone who has it?
    Did you ask them what happens when they unbound?
    the question is if you can decomp it without unbinding it; i refuse to have to make a second pair of daggers that takes 2x A. Devil souls. im not an idiot, and know what happens when you unbind, the idea is if you can make them into their soul edge without having to unbind it.

    sirrobert, youre not adding anything to the discussion because youre on a completely different situation. 99 gold takes GREEN gear, stop trying to reinforce something different to this concept :|
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    the question is if you can decomp it without unbinding it; i refuse to have to make a second pair of daggers that takes 2x A. Devil souls. im not an idiot, and know what happens when you unbind, the idea is if you can make them into their soul edge without having to unbind it.

    sirrobert, youre not adding anything to the discussion because youre on a completely different situation.

    No, you can't decompose bound gear.
    I didn't realise this was a discusion? Last time I chanced you were just asking something, to which I gave the best possible awnser
    9 out of 10 voices in my head say I'm not crazy... the 10th is singing the music of tetris
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    oi... ill just send in a ticket... such helpful people :|
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Zzzzzz...You CANNOT unbind Gold armor/weapons!! Nor can you decomp Gold armor/weapon.

    Take it or leave it!

    Dunno why thats so difficult.....
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Zzzzzz...You CANNOT unbind Gold armor/weapons!! Nor can you decomp Gold armor/weapon.

    Take it or leave it!

    Dunno why thats so difficult.....

    QFTW!!

    And Lenn we are speaking of a barb gear not sin gear. So dont force something that is irrelevant jeez.
    b:dirty
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    QFTW!!

    And Lenn we are speaking of a barb gear not sin gear. So dont force something that is irrelevant jeez.
    im not forcing anything, stupid. i asked a completely different question, get that through your thick head ~_~;
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Which gear are you talking about? When gear says "unbound" they usually mean "decomposed" (bad translation). Im not sure if its possible to decomposed gear bound with a charm but if so you would need to be able to manufacture that item.
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    im not forcing anything, stupid. i asked a completely different question, get that through your thick head ~_~;

    So, you're the one going of topic? b:chuckle
    Take the awnesers you have gotten so far, there are not going to be any others
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  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    im not forcing anything stupid. i asked a completely different question, get that through your thick head ~_~;

    The insults just killed everything you stated in this entire post.

    We have answered your question(s) and yet you fail to believe when people give a response.

    I recommend farming a Gold piece of armor and finding out for yourself, whether it be the easy or the hard way.

    One more time --> You CANNOT unbind Gold gear! You CANNOT decomp Gold gear.

    b:bye
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  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    nvm
    asd 10 charsssss
    b:dirty
  • Bowlinbob - Lost City
    Bowlinbob - Lost City Posts: 3,446 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    inb4lox...
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    The insults just killed everything you stated in this entire post.

    We have answered your question(s) and yet you fail to believe when people give a response.

    I recommend farming a Gold piece of armor and finding out for yourself, whether it be the easy or the hard way.

    One more time --> You CANNOT unbind Gold gear! You CANNOT decomp Gold gear.

    b:bye
    hatedsoul's question got answered, mine did not. that other cleric refuses to see i have a completely different question; she keeps reiterating some nonsense that has nothing to do with what im saying. as is sirrobert. (also make note, there was only 1 insult, not numerous, the use of a plural is not needed. she was called something because all shes doing is essentially telling me to shut up.)

    now LOOK:
    2010-01-0808-56-56.jpg

    2010-01-0808-56-51.jpg

    im saying how does this work.
  • Nelae - Heavens Tear
    Nelae - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,490 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nelae - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Before you start, realize the current situation of things.
    And they are, that any bound equipment will be destroyed.

    So one will assume since TB are new and dev's in fact did not add all nor did they remove all bugs. So please refer from stating things that are irrelevant to this topic.

    Omg you really are.....

    This is the first time i am forced to quote my own text...
    b:dirty
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    will you kindly just go away? youre not helping at all, seriously.

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