Physic or Cleric for PvP
AroKriyu - Heavens Tear
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Clerics can heal, have magic and physical attacks and super buffs b:laugh while a physic does a lot of damage has some good buffs and can heal quite well so Im wondering, out of these two classes, which of them is best at PvP
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AroKriyu - Heavens Tear wrote: »Clerics can heal, have magic and physical attacks and super buffs b:laugh while a physic does a lot of damage has some good buffs and can heal quite well so Im wondering, out of these two classes, which of them is best at PvP
who got more money b:laugh (i vote to cleric cause purify)0 -
waht sort of pvp u talking about
solo pk, team gankin, campin quest areas, tw, duels?
well physics are not exaclty very good fighting
but physics are to be lerned and u can get a job and get paid (not very well) and then cs good gears on pw and then be good at pvp
full mag clerix should be good for pking
clerics r cool cos u can self buff and they got phys and mag damage types
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Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »who got more money b:laugh (i vote to cleric cause purify)
Just FYI, psychics can purify too with a skill called psychic will. It also makes you immune to physical damage for up to 8 seconds.0 -
Confound - Harshlands wrote: »Just FYI, psychics can purify too with a skill called psychic will. It also makes you immune to physical damage for up to 8 seconds.
between 1spark or 20chi (or 0chi) have a bit difference :P
and like Magikcrap said the buff again a nice thing,heal+barrier and lv79 skill (maybe changeing later idk, i talk only about present)0 -
Everything comes down to the player Ultimately.
For 1v1 and you get the jump, I'd say psy would be better since psy has better mag. att.
Though equally skilled I'd say cleric would kill a psy 9/10 times since cleric has plume shot. which will tear through an AA psy.
now for 1v1 and someone jumps you Cleric would be better, since they have spammable heals, and plume shell for those nasty p attacks.
But as far as group pk or tw goes, thats 2 diff. ball games. Psy would be attacking replacing pre 80 wiz since they have higher dmg, and cleric would be their for support, and occasional dmg.
Edit: also want to add that psy purify has 30 sec cooldown, which as far as I know doesn't decrease with lvls. Cleric has 20 sec cooldown lvl 1 and at lvl 10 3 sec. meaning that a cleric can actually use purify more then once in a fight.0 -
Ive been dueling with a cleric buddy of mine and were at an even level. I gotta say the cleric kicks my butt most of the time.
The most effective spell against them would be soulburn. If that doesn't work as intended after casting then it's over for a psychic lol.0 -
Why don't you just choose to be a cleric who uses physics, it's not like physics don't effect us all.
On-topic.... I would choose psychic =P Though i love my cleric0 -
Kimbley - Harshlands wrote: »Why don't you just choose to be a cleric who uses physics, it's not like physics don't effect us all.
On-topic.... I would choose psychic =P Though i love my cleric
ok i think agaist heavy psyhic have a bit more chance and agaist other class is pretty similiar good the 2 class only different tactics.
but in psy vs cleric the cleric better this maybe balance if psy better against heavy(this not mean cleric is bad against heavy just do a bit lower mattack/second).0 -
Selador - Heavens Tear wrote: »Ive been dueling with a cleric buddy of mine and were at an even level. I gotta say the cleric kicks my butt most of the time.
The most effective spell against them would be soulburn. If that doesn't work as intended after casting then it's over for a psychic lol.
Sorry but i guess u dont know how to play Psy then! I never lose to Cleric and i dont even use Soul Burn. Start of Land Slide skill and u will see ^^ then Red Tide and he is dead :P0 -
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Shadowvzs - Lost City wrote: »or maybe that cleric was noob b:chuckle
I'm guessing this.0 -
AroKriyu - Heavens Tear wrote: »Clerics can heal, have magic and physical attacks and super buffs b:laugh while a physic does a lot of damage has some good buffs and can heal quite well so Im wondering, out of these two classes, which of them is best at PvP
I dont know about healing "quite well"
Its a decent cast speed but long cooldown, you might be able to pull it off once per duel.
As for the buffs, yea they are pretty good but assassin has one that does the same thing as one of psys but assassins one is better, and they have a few other good ones aswell. too, and cleric obviously does aswell.
The fact that cleric has PHYS DMG on its side is awesome, pretty much means that cleric > other robe users, where PSY doesnt stand much of a chance against a cleric.0 -
AroKriyu - Heavens Tear wrote: »Clerics can heal, have magic and physical attacks and super buffs b:laugh while a physic does a lot of damage has some good buffs and can heal quite well so Im wondering, out of these two classes, which of them is best at PvP
i beat a lvl 74 cleric wit np and im only a lvl 61 at the time and almost beated a lvl 81 cleric just 1-2 hits away cause we got a spell where they can be silenced for 2.1 sec up to 180sec til buff wears off so i go wit psys0 -
when i duel i usually make people ko themselves its funny actually. if u have vengeance + soul of retaliation + soulburn +psychic will u are not gonna be the one losing b:chuckle0
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_Anemone_ - Sanctuary wrote: »when i duel i usually make people ko themselves its funny actually. if u have vengeance + soul of retaliation + soulburn +psychic will u are not gonna be the one losing b:chuckle
Counters are not thought of right away, give it time before strategies are formed to get around it. Granted not completely unavoidable, but with an ability to avoid it with skill.Navarre was your everyday veno, until she learned her true form. Now she's fox walloping and purging over and over again.. all for a deep stinging, head hunting, wind pushing Assassin. Will there be inner harmony and myriad rainbows? But of course! Yuri&Lemon Find it on Fanfiction XD "Discovering Sanctuary" Chapter 2 is up ^_^0 -
Sorry but i guess u dont know how to play Psy then! I never lose to Cleric and i dont even use Soul Burn. Start of Land Slide skill and u will see ^^ then Red Tide and he is dead :P
Lol Red tide??? Where are you gonna get your 2 sparks?? And no it doesnt one hit a cleric unless you crit. (heck i doubt you can even 1 hit with a crit, my red tide's only lvl 3 atm). You say it like red tide's a spammable skill b:chuckle
You obviously haven't played against well equipped and very good clerics.0 -
_Anemone_ - Sanctuary wrote: »when i duel i usually make people ko themselves its funny actually. if u have vengeance + soul of retaliation + soulburn +psychic will u are not gonna be the one losing b:chuckle
I guess that might work if you have a ton of those insta spark potions.0 -
Selador - Heavens Tear wrote: »I guess that might work if you have a ton of those insta spark potions._Anemone_ - Sanctuary wrote: »when i duel i usually make people ko themselves its funny actually. if u have vengeance + soul of retaliation + soulburn +psychic will u are not gonna be the one losing b:chuckle
suppose cleric starts with Chromatic Seal and were not talking bout using genies for breaking stun/sleep whatever. then by soul of retaliation both are in sleep.. when you and the cleric wake up your psychic will is gone, your soulburn is gone, your soul of retaliation is gone, your soul of stunning is gone, i guess you dont have a spark since u needed 2 for soulborn and psychics will. then cleric should plumeshot you (3 hits max id guess) before u can kill him/get spark (well soulburn/psychic will have 30 sec cooldown anyway)0 -
lol just leave up white voodoo until you're buffed, soulburn to protect yourself while switching to black, and then nuke away from behind soul of stunning.
Something like White Voodoo -> Bubble of Life -> Soul of Stunning -> Soul of Vengeance -> Soulburn -> Black Voodoo -> Nuke away. Soulburn prevents the cleric from stacking heals or attacking effectively, and if they DO attack, they'll eat a soul of stunning while you get some more shots in. Try to make them burn sleep while your white voodoo is up, though, cause if you eat a sleep while black is up, you're done.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
I have both a 101 Cleric and a 101 Psychic. They're both on the same account and share the same gear, except for the weapon. I have great gear.
Fact is that both are effective in PvP, but the Psychic can kill any class and will almost never die in 1v1. The cleric has a lot of staying power, but a single 5 aps BM or Sin can stun lock and kill him where they can't kill the Psychic that way thanks to the added Defense Levels of White Voodoo. Also, the cleric has very little chance of killing a good charmed barb, though he'll rarely ever die to said barb as well.
Almost noone will attack my psychic any more. I sometimes take the cleric out for 1v1 pvp just because people will fight it and feel they have a chance to win.0 -
CharOfLight - Raging Tide wrote: »suppose cleric starts with Chromatic Seal and were not talking bout using genies for breaking stun/sleep whatever. then by soul of retaliation both are in sleep..
Soul of Retaliation does not reflect Chromatic Seal.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
I main a 97 Psy named /\bra. The forums don't like his name.
So I post on my Barb.
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CharOfLight - Raging Tide wrote: »suppose cleric starts with Chromatic Seal and were not talking bout using genies for breaking stun/sleep whatever. then by soul of retaliation both are in sleep. when you and the cleric wake up your psychic will is gone, your soulburn is gone, your soul of retaliation is gone, your soul of stunning is gone, i guess you dont have a spark since u needed 2 for soulborn and psychics will. then cleric should plumeshot you (3 hits max id guess) before u can kill him/get spark (well soulburn/psychic will have 30 sec cooldown anyway)
1. Not using Genie is like fighting without weapon/armor/brain (yea, brain, if you even have one) b:shutup
2. If the cleric start with chromatic seal, how can a psychic use Psychic Will, Soulburn when they are sleeping b:shocked
3. Soul of Retaliation doesn't reflect sleep, a Psychic with brain always use Soul of Stunning when fighting Cleric
4. Not if he have white voodoo, also, ever heard of Bubble of Life? purple pot?
Srsly dude (or dudette, w/e), are you fighting with AI?
Oh wait...you talking about dueling, that is srs bzn b:shocked[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Hypnos - Raging Tide wrote: »1. Not using Genie is like fighting without weapon/armor/brain (yea, brain, if you even have one) b:shutup
2. If the cleric start with chromatic seal, how can a psychic use Psychic Will, Soulburn when they are sleeping b:shocked
3. Soul of Retaliation doesn't reflect sleep, a Psychic with brain always use Soul of Stunning when fighting Cleric
4. Not if he have white voodoo, also, ever heard of Bubble of Life? purple pot?
Srsly dude (or dudette, w/e), are you fighting with AI?
Oh wait...you talking about dueling, that is srs bzn b:shocked
+3.1. even if it was reflected only the cleric would fall asleep that s what reflection means b:sweat0
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