Great Job Guys...

awwww too bad the names are obscured b:chuckle i woulda wanted to see them in sanc lol

I've stated this before in world chat:

Age nor level does NOT confers wisdom.

And obviously;

stupidity doesn't discriminate based upon class. b:laugh
A shame you blurred the names. People on the server deserve to know who to avoid. If that cleric can't handle fb29 (and dies while trying to rez party members) then they would most likely cause massive party wipes in any TT or FF run. An intellect is always what I look for over levels any day.

I leave most any party that shows signs of such people in it. It's never worth the effort trying to convince them that there might be a different (please read: better) way of doing it. Such as archers trying to lure in, let's say in theory, fb69s 20x3 instead of the veno that is there.

Honestly, I wish I knew what some people were thinking at some times. b:surrender Of course, knowing might be just as bad. lol

Zhou_Yu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've stated this before in world chat:

Age nor level does NOT confers wisdom.

And obviously;

stupidity doesn't discriminate based upon class. b:laugh
A shame you blurred the names. People on the server deserve to know who to avoid. If that cleric can't handle fb29 (and dies while trying to rez party members) then they would most likely cause massive party wipes in any TT or FF run. An intellect is always what I look for over levels any day.

I leave most any party that shows signs of such people in it. It's never worth the effort trying to convince them that there might be a different (please read: better) way of doing it. Such as archers trying to lure in, let's say in theory, fb69s 20x3 instead of the veno that is there.

Honestly, I wish I knew what some people were thinking at some times. b:surrender Of course, knowing might be just as bad. lol

Hey hey hey... My hubby lures alot (archer) and he rarely fails at it.. theres something like LC for yer genie to lure ;] Fortunately He leaves the twins to me lol

MissAnthrope - Sanctuary wrote: »

i blurred the names, because i thought it was forums rules or something?

I never blur names lol

Fatboykkb - Heavens Tear wrote: »

yesterday i was in a squad for fb 51. we had 2 barbs(57&62) 1 cleric(64) 1 bm(53 tabber) 1 veno(63 me) 1 wizzy(59) okey so we were discussing who was gonna tank and i was talking and the cleric cut me off and said it dosn't matter who tanks so i say what if some dies and she said these exact words"hey no one dies in my squad cause im pro cleric" and i go along with it so we going along and we get to the part on the way to wyvern were you have to wall hump and tabber dosn't know and i say something and cleric said she will teach her how so everyone eisle used speed buffs and we ran along and about 5 seconds later i see cleric coming behind me without the bm and about 5 more seconds later tabber dies and i say "so what happened "pro cleric" i thought no one dies in you'r squad?" and she says "its not my falt noobs don't know how to wall jump." after this i was pissed off at her so i decided to pk her after wyvern was done which i allmost did. after i left squad i started attacking her immediatly her health dropped to about half and then she started spamming IH on herself and i continuied to attack and her hp kept getting down really low but i was laughing whole time because she couldn't even get an attack in because she was too busy spamming IH on herself and 1 time she tried to use plume but i used ironwood and her hp dropped down to about half and she went on spamming IH on herself...oh ya forgot to mention the reason why i was planning to pk her because she said every class is useless except for barb and clerics.....

I'v ran into couple people that feel the same lol, it's sad really, just goes to show how little experience those individuals have in the gameb:pleased

^... I did a 3 man squad of a barb, cleric and me for TT2-3... we did wurlord and soulripper too... if i wasn't there rofl man that would have sucked XD

anyways on topic..

I think he's one of those die hard full support clerics that don't know any of their skills on the right side... and he literally dies hard.

Zhou_Yu - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I've stated this before in world chat:

Age nor level does NOT confers wisdom.

And obviously;

stupidity doesn't discriminate based upon class. b:laugh

Couldn't agree more to that. Now to find more like-minded people so I can steal them from their faction and put them into mine x].

I leave most any party that shows signs of such people in it. It's never worth the effort trying to convince them that there might be a different (please read: better) way of doing it. Such as archers trying to lure in, let's say in theory, fb69s 20x3 instead of the veno that is there.

I'll pull over the veno if the veno is too slow or doesn't do it right. Or if the barb isn't competent enough to grab the mobs... or worse: both combined. Until the genies came out, however, I wouldn't have dared. I just don't like relying on people; as I explained in another post, I like to be up front and have some sort of control over what's going on.

You can ask my teams though: I know my limits, which a lot of people don't. I'm not gonna leeroy in FB79 'cause I know these mobs run away, I mostly won't aggro them all, cleric is gonna heal me and in the end we're gonna die. I do it in 69 though. Except the runners. Damn runners ruining my leeroying fun

Anything can tank. You need...
a) the right gear, or build, or level
b) the right boss
c) the right people.

I've been overtanked by clerics, wizards and archers, especially in FB59. I don't mind it, hell, it's actually faster because they CAN go all-out, while with me as a tank they'd have to watch their damage. A LA char CAN tank in 59 as well, as they are ranged and they have higher mdef than HA classes. In that case, it's a matter of level and gear... but they pull it off often.

Anyways, to answer to the OP...

OMFG WOW O_________o. As a 82 cleric I'd have tanked it myself. Wouldn't rely on a 40-something sin to tank it, sorry. I know they have a nice damage output, but... would you trust a low-level archer to tank it? No? There you go. Same deal. At higher levels, yeah, the sin's gonna be able to, just like an archer can tank it.

But... wow. Just wow. Some people really, really don't know how to play their classes, and it's really sad to see them at high levels. I tend to think they have higher leveled buddies getting everything for them... or they're oracle babies.

MissAnthrope - Sanctuary wrote: »

i blurred the names, because i thought it was forums rules or something? naming and shaming i think... anyways i dont want his guild giving me drama or something... its a top guild. I think they own a piece of land..

Yes, it is one of the rules. Doesn't change it that it is shame. lol

JollyJaguar - Sanctuary wrote: »

Hey hey hey... My hubby lures alot (archer) and he rarely fails at it.. theres something like LC for yer genie to lure ;] Fortunately He leaves the twins to me lol


I never blur names lol

Oh no, I'm not talking about genie luring. I'm talking about running in and just shotting a mob causing 2-4 mobs charging in that I have to catch and then they still attack the mob(s) I'm not attacking. I've met those who lure intelligently and there is NO comparison to these people.

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I cannot help but wonder if I was suddenly given a level 82 cleric character to play and 10 minutes of prep time, if I could solo that boss.

Solo Cleric is easy to the point of being ridiculous if you have even the slightest bit of common sense (hell if I can do it, just about anyone can). I bet you could do it if you were thrown into the pilot seat as the first Plume Shot was being fired. To hell with the ten minutes...trial by fire FTW! XD

It's when others are added to the equation that things get interesting. b:shutup

Elenacostel - Heavens Tear wrote: »

So calling this level 82 cleric an Oracle leveler... is an insult to Oracle levelers, correct?

Yes. Because everyone knows Oraclers are cheaters who just enjoy the destination, not the journey.

...spoiled kids.

b:scorn

b:laughb:laughb:laughb:laughb

And this ladies and gentlemen, is why we don't like oraclers.

My cleric (low 70s at the time I think) was helping on a BH Qingzi with a 40s BM tanking when I started DDing after several casts of IH on the BM. I instantly pulled aggro, healed myself, and tanked the rest of the fight. (My comment at the time... "I guess I'm tanking.")

We had a veno in our faction, didn't know how to lure on her FB51. We (the barb tank, and me as cleric) explained to her how to do it and gave her chances to practice. She later left faction after telling me "my way doesn't work" during an argument.

This is the classic failure that happens when one ORICLE's him/her self to high lvl status withOUT knowing what that class can actually do.. GRATS on the stupidity that occurred..