PWI rip their customer off ??

Whiteleo - Lost City
Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Cash Shop Huddle
ok, i never QQ about anything before.
but
i want to dye my clothes to white
so.. during this whole week i looking for AH
and man, like WTF
1 white pigment = 2mil
i need 26 white pigments all together to get the color i want
26x2mil = b:angryb:angry
WTF with you PWI b:angry
that's all b:angry
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  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    PWI players rip their customer off ??

    Fixed it for you.
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I actually have to agree here. The dying system is horrible. It's a gamble to get a color you like, then a gamble to get a decent dye out the packs. Not that it surprises me, being pwi.

    So many clothes sets I would have bought from the boutique with real money if only you were guaranteed a set color and they had a decent preview. I know I'm not the only one either...
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    i really start to hate PWI, i hope some good cool event or sales for this Christmas and new year
    but they really disappoint me
    it seem like i have no way to dye to white even if i willing to pay 100
    i mean buy hot color packs from CS spending 100 and i know what i would get from that ****ing pack
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  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Originally Posted by Whiteleo - Lost City
    PWI players rip their customer off ??
    Fixed it for you.

    +100

    Its not PWI thats setting the AH prices its the players. People are quick to point the finger at PWI being greedy when 90% of the time the player base is 100% worse.
    if only you were guaranteed a set color and they had a decent preview

    That be very nice to be able to preview clothes in the CS, rather than try to find someone wearing it
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  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    +100

    Its not PWI thats setting the AH prices its the players. People are quick to point the finger at PWI being greedy when 90% of the time the player base is 100% worse.

    you are idiot
    you know why that white color is expensive?
    it's because of random thing when you open that damn pack which is gambling
    even u spend 100/200 and u end up with all the **** color u don't want
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  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    you are idiot
    you know why that white color is expensive?
    it's because of random thing when you open that damn pack which is gambling
    even u spend 100/200 and u end up with all the **** color u don't want

    You are an idiot for moaning about something you dont need apart from to fuel your vanity and epeen.

    And that colour is expensive because it is popular the same as black.. supply and demand
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    you are idiot
    you know why that white color is expensive?
    it's because of random thing when you open that damn pack which is gambling
    even u spend 100/200 and u end up with all the **** color u don't want

    No need to flame people who don't agree with your opinion :/
  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    You are an idiot for moaning about something you dont need apart from to fuel your vanity and epeen.

    And that colour is expensive because it is popular the same as black.. supply and demand

    you have no idea what you are talking about
    STFUGTFO b:angry
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  • Whiteleo - Lost City
    Whiteleo - Lost City Posts: 285 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    No need to flame people who don't agree with your opinion :/

    i'm sorry , i m so angry atm, that's why b:cry
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  • DorkFish - Sanctuary
    DorkFish - Sanctuary Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    you have no idea what you are talking about
    STFUGTFO b:angry

    No you BOTH have no idea what your talking about.

    White and Black are RARE colors. The color packs drop them VERY rarely, thus their cost is commensurate with their rarity. If you don't like the price, well... choose a more common color because common colors are cheaper.

    ~DF
  • ChaoticTears - Harshlands
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands Posts: 323 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    DorkFish - Sanctuary wrote: »
    White and Black are RARE colors. The color packs drop them VERY rarely, thus their cost is commensurate with their rarity. If you don't like the price, well... choose a more common color because common colors are cheaper.

    ~DF

    Rare and the fact everyone and his/her dog wants white or black. Ive always found it cheaper to use random dyes to hit black/white rather than try and buy the colours.
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  • zachmccaslin
    zachmccaslin Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    you have no idea what you are talking about
    STFUGTFO b:angry

    no he is right it supply and demand if some one wants that and there are willing people that will pay for it thy will sell for that price

    you want to know how to make its worth go down
    boycot if no one buys it then the worth go down
  • RainbowVidel - Sanctuary
    RainbowVidel - Sanctuary Posts: 1,316 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    zachmccaslin wrote: »
    if some one wants that and there are willing people that will pay for it thy will sell for that price

    Just because Player X is willing to spend a very high amount for a certain item doesn't mean that's the actual value of the item. This is a problem people have with selling items. They set their prices (most of the time) based on what a select few will pay and not at a price they are personally happy with selling it for. Gold prices in auction house is the same way.

    Don't let those select few set prices for you or anyone else... set your own.
  • Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear Posts: 4,864 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    DorkFish - Sanctuary wrote: »
    White and Black are RARE colors. The color packs drop them VERY rarely
    ~DF

    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/quest/9281
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  • _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary Posts: 2,294 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Rainbowvidel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just because Player X is willing to spend a very high amount for a certain item doesn't mean that's the actual value of the item. This is a problem people have with selling items. They set their prices (most of the time) based on what a select few will pay and not at a price they are personally happy with selling it for. Gold prices in auction house is the same way.

    Don't let those select few set prices for you or anyone else... set your own.

    Greed. I always try to set prices on what a majority would be willing to pay, because personally sitting in a catshop for 2 weeks waiting for that 1 desperate person to come along doesn't really appeal to me.

    However, you'll get those types who will ONLY sell at a price only a desperate person would pay. If the item is worth 1.5m, and a desperate person might rarely pay 2m, the seller thinks selling at 1.5m is "losing them 500k". Doesn't matter if there's a wide market of sellers at 1.5 and even lower, they'll try to sell at 2m and stick at it until they get their money.
  • DorkFish - Sanctuary
    DorkFish - Sanctuary Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/quest/9281

    Considering I have purchased over $100.00 in pigments and have NEVER gotten a white or black (but got an **** of reds, oranges, greens, blues, pukes and vomits), I personally doubt that chart.

    ~DF
  • BananaMartyr - Raging Tide
    BananaMartyr - Raging Tide Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    _DarkSeph_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Greed. I always try to set prices on what a majority would be willing to pay, because personally sitting in a catshop for 2 weeks waiting for that 1 desperate person to come along doesn't really appeal to me.

    However, you'll get those types who will ONLY sell at a price only a desperate person would pay. If the item is worth 1.5m, and a desperate person might rarely pay 2m, the seller thinks selling at 1.5m is "losing them 500k". Doesn't matter if there's a wide market of sellers at 1.5 and even lower, they'll try to sell at 2m and stick at it until they get their money.

    Well I don't play with that kinda money...But anytime I sell stuff I go so low that everything sells in one night usually. XD I hate waiting...I could use that time to get more items or sell other things...Any profit is awesome. I laugh a little when I see vastly overpriced items in catshops...Knowing that my items are gunna sell 50 times faster X3
  • Boozin - Sanctuary
    Boozin - Sanctuary Posts: 183 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Rainbowvidel - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Just because Player X is willing to spend a very high amount for a certain item doesn't mean that's the actual value of the item. This is a problem people have with selling items. They set their prices (most of the time) based on what a select few will pay and not at a price they are personally happy with selling it for. Gold prices in auction house is the same way.

    Don't let those select few set prices for you or anyone else... set your own.

    Supply = Demand..... that should end this entire thread...

    I dont like it, u dont like it, most dont like it, but because obviously there are ppl that will pay the going rate, thats what sets the bar... we can qq all we like about it, but ppl will forever continue to sell mats etc for all they can get, and someone will always pay for it and inflation is the name of the game... its just a fact of life.
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  • SneakyStalk - Harshlands
    SneakyStalk - Harshlands Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    +100
    Its not PWI thats setting the AH prices its the players. People are quick to point the finger at PWI being greedy when 90% of the time the player base is 100% worse.

    Also, white, red and black pigmets are more rare. Idont think theres an equal chance to get them.

    Players wouldnt set up such a high price if they were like... more common.
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  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    this thread is dumb :|. you dont have to pay a dime for fashion, its not required to play this game. so why on earth are you complaining?
  • Murloc/ - Heavens Tear41
    Murloc/ - Heavens Tear41 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The OP obviously doesn't know what the hell they are talking about, and it should also be obvious by basic errors in grammar and spelling that they sadly lack the ability to grasp "Supply and Demand" so I'll simplify it for them:

    If you have 1 Apple, and 100 people want an Apple, and all try and outbid each other.. that Apple is now worth a lot of money.

    If you have 100 Apples, but only 10 people want an Apple, then those Apples aren't worth much now are they?

    This is an example of supply and demand. There are a LOT of people that want White dye, but there isn't alot of it around, as such, the demand for White dye is higher then the supply, and the price goes up.
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    obvious by basic errors in grammer and spelling
    learn to spell grammar before knocking someone else's LOL.
  • Aelric - Lost City
    Aelric - Lost City Posts: 1,031 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Okay "Supply = Demand" w/e... but where does the supply come from? The ridiculously low chance of getting one of those dyes from the horrible dye packs. Also other colors are NOT cheap... a few 100k+ for one dye is not cheap at all when you need 20+ dyes for one thing.... which is outrageous also.
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  • Murloc/ - Heavens Tear41
    Murloc/ - Heavens Tear41 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary wrote: »
    learn to spell grammar before knocking someone else's LOL.

    I'm a bit tired atm (hangover), my bad. b:surrender

    But thanks for catching that for me. b:thanks
  • Lenn_ - Sanctuary
    Lenn_ - Sanctuary Posts: 507 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Murloc/ - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    I'm a bit tired atm (hangover), my bad. b:surrender

    But thanks for catching that for me. b:thanks
    i am too lol, we had a jello shots contest and i won with 240 of em lol
  • Kuaru - Dreamweaver
    Kuaru - Dreamweaver Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I think everyone who ever wanted to dye his/her clothes knows about the pain.
    Why can't PW just sell every single color in boutique, so ppl could pick what they want? Well, I can give me the answer for this myself - It's because of the money. People are dependent on what they get randomly and what other players sell in catshops/AH. And this way they spend way more money than by buying a fixed amount of pigments.
    But that's just not the way it should be imo, especially when you need over 10 to over 20 pigments for one freaking piece of cloth.
    Even if you don't want white, red or black you would have to buy, let's say, 11 yellow/jade/whatever pigments for a Corsair's dress. And that's expensive as well.
    I think you can talk about rip off here. But as long as players are willing to pay the prices, nothing will change. And they are and will be..
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  • Gammaburst - Harshlands
    Gammaburst - Harshlands Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yea, i read that if you have all white fashion you do double damage?????????????

    You're complaining about a luxury item that doesnt help your characters performance one bit.

    $25+ to refine each peice of gear might be something to complain about.
  • The_Forgoten - Lost City
    The_Forgoten - Lost City Posts: 198 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Fixed it for you.

    No, not fixed. The prices are only half the problem here. Its the sheer amount of dyes needed to dye something. Take Superstar Coat for instance, 18 dyes, see something wrong with that? Especially when its random what dye you get out of the packs so you probably wont even get enough of the same color to dye it.
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    you are idiot
    you know why that white color is expensive?
    it's because of random thing when you open that damn pack which is gambling
    even u spend 100/200 and u end up with all the **** color u don't want

    I agree.
  • Annalyse - Heavens Tear
    Annalyse - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,618 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ChaoticTears - Harshlands wrote: »
    That be very nice to be able to preview clothes in the CS, rather than try to find someone wearing it

    At least now they give you the option to preview clothes in the AH. People tend to throw stuff in there pretty quick (buying multiples no doubt to try for decent colours), so now I always hit the AH to check out what the new outfits would look like.
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  • Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear
    Cernunnosx - Heavens Tear Posts: 384 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Whiteleo - Lost City wrote: »
    <Insert nerdy emo rant>


    Should have called yourself Rainbowleo then there wouldnt have been a problem b:bye

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