Events in General - Your Take

Sandaili - Dreamweaver · December 2009

I know there are a lot of discussions about events - more recently, the Christmas event.

Now - my take on this is that some people play for fun, and events are fun. Then others rip apart the people who say they play for fun, and say take what you can get.

I thought that was a little rude. I know that a lot of people don't just play games like PWI for endgame. They play to have fun.

I wanted to know other's takes on this - would you enjoy it if there were events more often, and (I know most won't like this) you get little to no worth out of doing them? Kind of like quests, or titles?

Or is this getting too close to "other games"?

And I don't play PW-MY or any other games. Do they have these?

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear · December 2009

I do not play ANY game or character for an end game result. I play purely for the entertainment. If there is no good entertainment the game can not keep my interest.

I have been in games that had awesome events. The one I left to come here had an issue that was unresolved involving in game currency or I'd still be there. Their events were awesome. A gm hosted them at least once a week sometimes twice a week. I logged onto the new server this week and they have a christmas tree in the middle of every town, followed by snow fall and a special instance in which toys and santa are mobs. And if you catch santa and kill him, you get a special item.

I wish that PW would host those types of events. There should be more to do in an MMO than mindless grinding. Especially after lvl 75ish where there are so few quests you are forced to grind or TT or FF all the time.

It wouldn't be hard for them to host events in game more often, but it would take likely the employment of someone who does mostly just that. With the current financial status of PW, I'm pretty sure they could do that and not dent their pockets at all.

I think it is a great idea to have events, even if they are just small short ones.

Zoe - Heavens Tear · December 2009

I don't think ANY events should give items. That way you can see who is there to have fun and who is just plain greedy.

eatwithspoons · December 2009

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

If anyone wants to share some ideas with me please post in the suggestions forum, I'm always looking for new events to run.b:victory

Hunter_PT - Heavens Tear · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

If anyone wants to share some ideas with me please post in the suggestions forum, I'm always looking for new events to run.b:victory

Now i need to think b:chuckle.

Bowlinbob - Lost City · December 2009

event suggestion:

Gank the Spoon.

_Pale - Sanctuary · December 2009

Treasure hunt: find the spoon

b:cute

Psytrac - Raging Tide · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

If anyone wants to share some ideas with me please post in the suggestions forum, I'm always looking for new events to run.b:victory

mini world bosses to invade arch? lol (like those found in heaven/hell, not PWI names, but PW names for them)

Bunella - Harshlands · December 2009

I really, really enjoyed the snowmen. I read where people were complaining about no Christmas event, the snowmen popped up, then wahhhhhh complaining just took a new turn. The snowmen weren't enough? There have been complaints about the anniversery packs, the cash shop sales, the color of the sky, the day of the week (ok a little sarcasm)

After all the complaints, I'm not sure why they would host more events? Can't make all the players happy ANY of the time. I admit I am a cash shop user, it helps me like extending my bank and inventory and pet bag. And although I have spent hundreds of dollars, I still think the Christmas snowmen were terrific! I leveled all my pets and can feed my genie for a long, long time. I ended up with about 150 of each celestone also.

I am not playing to get to end game, what is the point there? I enjoy each and every day that I play now. I certainly don't want it to be over.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, me included. But, I think if they saw a little gratitude for the stuff they do, they may be more likely to do more. I have absolutely no complaints about the Christmas event I enjoyed the heck out of it, and appriciate the the positive attitudes the GM'S kept in the forums even after the pages and pages of complaints.

Some of us, who aren't quite so vocal on the forums, really appriciate the fun that pwi provides.

Gaijen - Sanctuary · December 2009

_Pale - Sanctuary wrote: »

Treasure hunt: find the spoon

b:cute

I am literally LOL at this pic. b:victory

Psytrac - Raging Tide · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

If anyone wants to share some ideas with me please post in the suggestions forum, I'm always looking for new events to run.b:victory

maybe make an official "we want your event ideas" thread in the suggestion forum spoons?

Dannon - Lost City · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

If anyone wants to share some ideas with me please post in the suggestions forum, I'm always looking for new events to run.b:victory

I totally disagree with this. The GM events since the game has been released have all been disasters. Its just the high levels killing all the low levels. And I say this from experience because I am a high level and during GM events I don't do anything except pk people. If you want a good GM event, you need to hold it in a safe zone.

That is why the Christmas event is the best event imho. Since its in safe zone, anyone can do it. Even someone who just started playing the game. What's even better is that someone that just started playing can get a really rare Christmas card and sell it and now they have a bunch of money to start playing with.

_Pale - Sanctuary · December 2009

Dannon - Lost City wrote: »

I totally disagree with this. The GM events since the game has been released have all been disasters. Its just the high levels killing all the low levels. And I say this from experience because I am a high level and during GM events I don't do anything except pk people. If you want a good GM event, you need to hold it in a safe zone.

That is why the Christmas event is the best event imho. Since its in safe zone, anyone can do it. Even someone who just started playing the game. What's even better is that someone that just started playing can get a really rare Christmas card and sell it and now they have a bunch of money to start playing with.

^THIS^

The event needs to be enjoyable for everyone

Psytrac - Raging Tide · December 2009

or disable PK for the event would work also.

Fangxing - Heavens Tear · December 2009

b:surrender Nobody likes to be ganked while trying to have a good time. b:infuriated

SilverCleric - Lost City · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

If anyone wants to share some ideas with me please post in the suggestions forum, I'm always looking for new events to run.b:victory

Psytrac - Raging Tide wrote: »

maybe make an official "we want your event ideas" thread in the suggestion forum spoons?

^^ THIS ^^

There should be a Sticky Thread for people to post ideas for events and then a GM/Mod chooses one and then try to make that idea a reality.

Like Wrath Wars that event should be brought back (and made it permanent) or bring back 2x exp/spr/drop event something like that or bring a very big boss near one of the main city's those are ideas events that should be in PWI b:victoryb:pleased

OneHottShot - Heavens Tear · December 2009

Dannon - Lost City wrote: »

I totally disagree with this. The GM events since the game has been released have all been disasters. Its just the high levels killing all the low levels. And I say this from experience because I am a high level and during GM events I don't do anything except pk people. If you want a good GM event, you need to hold it in a safe zone.

That is why the Christmas event is the best event imho. Since its in safe zone, anyone can do it. Even someone who just started playing the game. What's even better is that someone that just started playing can get a really rare Christmas card and sell it and now they have a bunch of money to start playing with.

Since we don't have Pvp and only Pk mode on Pve servers this isn't an issue. But I like the post below you that says Pk should be disabled for events. That would help out a bunch.

I'd have for them to deter from events due to this reason. We need them

Serengetti - Sanctuary · December 2009

Zoe - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I don't think ANY events should give items. That way you can see who is there to have fun and who is just plain greedy.

i dont agree that if you want items from events you must be gready,i'm all for fun but its nice to have some kind of goal,and i dont mean they have to amazing items like savant stones or other items from anniversary packs,i'm happy with chi stones,for the first time ever my genie is totally full

Skybelle - Sanctuary · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

If anyone wants to share some ideas with me please post in the suggestions forum, I'm always looking for new events to run.b:victory

Better start thinking then. b:angry

RouIette - Lost City · December 2009

Dannon - Lost City wrote: »

I totally disagree with this. The GM events since the game has been released have all been disasters. Its just the high levels killing all the low levels. And I say this from experience because I am a high level and during GM events I don't do anything except pk people. If you want a good GM event, you need to hold it in a safe zone.

That is why the Christmas event is the best event imho. Since its in safe zone, anyone can do it. Even someone who just started playing the game. What's even better is that someone that just started playing can get a really rare Christmas card and sell it and now they have a bunch of money to start playing with.

What he said, I remember during a PK the GM event (I think it was) it was held over at Pierced Heart Lake in LC, and yet anything anyone could see was dead, dead, dead nubs from all the aoe's raining down on Ironman and Deity.

Yet I miss those Find the GM events, though notably the people who usually won were the WC spammers XD

Though the lack of events over in LC are made up for by Reds

Serengetti - Sanctuary · December 2009

Bunella - Harshlands wrote: »

I really, really enjoyed the snowmen. I read where people were complaining about no Christmas event, the snowmen popped up, then wahhhhhh complaining just took a new turn. The snowmen weren't enough? There have been complaints about the anniversery packs, the cash shop sales, the color of the sky, the day of the week (ok a little sarcasm)

After all the complaints, I'm not sure why they would host more events? Can't make all the players happy ANY of the time. I admit I am a cash shop user, it helps me like extending my bank and inventory and pet bag. And although I have spent hundreds of dollars, I still think the Christmas snowmen were terrific! I leveled all my pets and can feed my genie for a long, long time. I ended up with about 150 of each celestone also.

I am not playing to get to end game, what is the point there? I enjoy each and every day that I play now. I certainly don't want it to be over.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, me included. But, I think if they saw a little gratitude for the stuff they do, they may be more likely to do more. I have absolutely no complaints about the Christmas event I enjoyed the heck out of it, and appriciate the the positive attitudes the GM'S kept in the forums even after the pages and pages of complaints.

Some of us, who aren't quite so vocal on the forums, really appriciate the fun that pwi provides.

i agree that a lot of people complain about everything,no matter what you cant make everyone happy,just like you i love snowmen (i may have to send my genie to Weight Watchers after all chi stones she devoured b:chuckle ) but i have 1 tiny complain about that event,where are Christmas trees needed to finish Christmas card quest? o and we missing living snowmen as well

MystiMonk - Sanctuary · December 2009

Yes.It would be nice to have more events with big sales.

Evien - Dreamweaver · December 2009

I personally like all the events. I look at it this way, they COULD.... just not give us any events at all.... Thank them, they worked hard on it. Might not be the perfect event, may be a little buggy, but hey, it's F2P, and it's all in fun... right?

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

I don't really consider that to be a full blown event. In my opinion we should have some more GM run events, some really cool and unique events would be awesome.

The problem is that the Chinese devs are too lazy or too incompetent to program events in the game, and that PWI's GMs/Admins can only think of events that gathers 80% of the server population into a tiny area of the map, making everyone lag and making the event mostly unplayable.

Let's take a look at Xmas for exemple...

In PWI we had... snowmen. yay.

In the other game I'm currently playing we have :

a dozen or so special Xmas quests, some of them repetables
Special Xmas related drops from monsters of any level
Cheap permamnent Xmas fashion ($10 for 2 full sets)
2 free Xmas hat/mask
Contests distributing a few free fashions
4 downloadable papercraft model so we can decorate our house with them
Special Xmas PvP fights

Some of that stuff is recurring from the previous years, others are brand new. And that game is not even having a monthly fee to play it. All you have to do is buy the game box....

Solution : force PW China to hire more competent and imaginative devs. Ask PW China to be less greedy and put more money back into the game than they are now. Have PWI hire more competent admins than those they have now. How hard would have it been to bring back the full Xmas event we had last year, frankly? Oh wait. That event did not used the cash shop, and thus would not have put any money into PWI's pocket...

_Pale - Sanctuary · December 2009

Calling the devs lazy is a bit uncalled for...

They did bring you a complete new expansion and a christmas event and have been working on all the bugs.
True there are still a lot of bugs that need to be fixed, but setting up the tideborn map, creating the new races, getting all the new mobs and giving you a complete new quest line tht can easily give you about 500k, a charm and lots of exp. I really wouldn't call that being lazy or greedy.

I liked the snowmen:
1. no ganking, it doesn't force you to go into pk mode, some people worked very hard and long to get the stuff they have (sometimes close to a year) and wouldn't risk loosing it all for 1 event even with anni-packs.

Gank fest events are mostly just for the people who are already using bound endgame gear, ultra-fast mounts and really don't have a lot to gain from even the best of drops, because either their stuff is better or they have so much of it already that it doens't make a difference. These are mostly private parties for some happy few, which are largely ignored by the rest of the server.

Especially considering that the lower lvls are tomorrows players, it would be wise to keep them involved. If the server only caters to very high endgame players (regardless of how much money they spend), the game will die out. Many people start over or sometimes stop playing once they reach end-game

To do something special for the higher levels besides TW or instances that take forever to complete or find a squad for, could be fun. I think the devs tried to do that with the public quests, but it might still need some work.
(as a suggestion: a prize doesn't always have to be a material thing, but can be a title or honor or a privilage to do something others can't. Becoming Duke/ king/ emperor/ jester of Archosaur for a month being able to TP across the map, having the power to make mobs give extra drops or exp or spirit to the people around you where you go, something like that...)

2. it's an event that can be enjoyed by everyone and everyone gets something out of it.

3. lvl doesn't really determine how well you do and there is no minimum requirement to do the event, or mount (or other expensive equipment) requirement to have a chance

4. It did give you 2 quests, even if living snowmen weren't on this year.

5. the prizes were something low in value, but usefull to everyone so the regular harvesting hamsters wouldn't bother because there is no substantial amount of money to be made from it to make grinding it worth for them. So not having living snowmen wasn't really a loss, since there was no benefit of grinding them for the X-mas cards, which reduced the annoyance from harvesters grabbing everything.

6. It gave exp. in a low amount, so especially low levels could grind them to lvl, making it useful for them. And ofcourse lots of chi-stones to fuel either the genies or flying mounts.

7. It gave some drops that were useful for higher lvls like dice tickets, not very expensive, but useful enough for the higher lvls to have a go at the snowmen. It was still free to do it, so why not try, it wasn't as if you had to spend a lot of mana or needed an expensive charm or anything that would make you think twice of trying.

This event was accesible and useful to everyone, everyone could play side by side and get something useful out of it, it lasted long enough for everyone to participate (regardless where you live) and the drops weren't worth QQ-ing about ( so not a lot of drama)

I think this is what made snowman a succes. I really hope the next event will be just as good.

b:cute

Blancheneige - Heavens Tear · December 2009

_Pale - Sanctuary wrote: »

I really hope the next event will be just as good.

Lolz. My guess is that you were not here last Xmas, eh? it was ten times better than this year.

And yes, the chinese devs working on this game are lazy. Find me another game where a bug is not fixed after 5 years.... or even 2 years.

Why are they not fixed and never going to be fixed? Because it would not bring money into their pockets.

Tideborn's only unltimate goal was to keep players in game and sell more stuff from the cash shop. Why do you think they put oracles for sale at the same time?

Why was the Xmas event not fully implemented like last year? Give me one good reason. Here's one : it's not relying on the cash shop, unlike the halloween event for exemple.

Last year at the same time, PWI was more concerned about making their players happy than they are now. At the moment, all they appears to care about is to make money, money and more money.

Heartstone - Dreamweaver · December 2009

oka i missclicked on "no whats the point" didnt mean to click there btw lol.
but yeah i want some mroe stuff to happen.
remember some event in March i think, GM's spawned mobs at soem location, they litteraly ***** us tiny small lvls, ( was not long after DW/HL opened) but well was fun, and lost alot of exp XD.

Cotto - Heavens Tear · December 2009

events still exist o_o?

last event i remember was invading arch where mobs and bosses outside arch were there to kill.

what i dont understand is why didnt the players let the mobs just invade arch and see what wouldve happened

havent seen anything fun since then

Gandora - Harshlands · December 2009

Cotto - Heavens Tear wrote: »

events still exist o_o?

last event i remember was invading arch where mobs and bosses outside arch were there to kill.

what i dont understand is why didnt the players let the mobs just invade arch and see what wouldve happened

havent seen anything fun since then

Last event I remember was Valentines Day. I really would like to see a event where aggressive mobs are inside archo b:pleased. Not like the mobs would kill anything because the lag would save most of us, until they realize that they need to kill at catshops first b:chuckle.

Maybe we could get a event where aggresive wraiths (mutant snowmen?) invade every city on the map, where it feels like the begging of the end. Logging in and trying to do crazy stones/BH/WQ would require some effort, or even a squad. In the end we all could get some special reward, or not.

//arijuana - Sanctuary6 · December 2009

Here are my feelings on the issue, I think I really touch on both sides of the issue:

In game events are good. Events include new content releases, special quests, holiday items, etc. A certain event might not be styled toward you, but the next one might. Also, if something is very unpopular or flawed, it can be tweeked for a later event.

Last time I looked, new content is coming out almost every week. Granted, some of the stuff ain't for me, but it is new stuff that someone will like. Which means there is a very good chance that stuff I like will be coming out in the future.

I say good job, and keep at it.

Nowitsawn - Heavens Tear · December 2009

As long as it's not like that ''perfect world quiz'' long ago..

For those that weren't there, questions were announced through system chat and you had to whisper the answer to a GM (I think kantorek?) and winners got all kinds of stuff like bikini's (pretty rare back then) and charms.
It would be great.. if the questions were PW related =.= (question 1: What type of fruit does the pineapple belong to?)

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