the voodoos

Mistyria - Lost City
Mistyria - Lost City Posts: 13 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Psychic
so someone said later on in the game, there'll prob not be enough spirit points to lvl the both voodoos....so i was wondering which one i should focus on and was hoping for you guys' input.

at first, i was thinking the def one....but i was thinking maybe the atk one would be better after lvl 19 since you have landslide and will prob not be taking as much dmg anyway. so the mindset would be the faster you kill, the less you get dmged??

what do you guys think? which one do you guys prefer?
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  • DrawtheTide - Heavens Tear
    DrawtheTide - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    well personaly, i like white voodoo (white becuase of its awesome and hot action and the phys def lvl) , that with soul of mirrors, u can get a good attack, but i lvl both black and white, i use black only when i know i wont get hit once, but with mirrors activated i dont really care. for ceartin mobs i use white voodoo with mirrors, so if i have to take a break to use a hp pot they still take 30-40 dmg ^^
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  • Tsai - Raging Tide
    Tsai - Raging Tide Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I completely agree with drawthetide. I level both, and keep tideform at level one for more spirit. you can't use skills with it, so it's kinda pointlessb:surrender I love my psychic. I also find black voodoo and soul of vengence=pwnage. At any rate, PSYCHIC FTW!!!! b:victory
  • XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary
    XHappyBunnyx - Sanctuary Posts: 683 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    spirit is unlimited.
    if you wanted you could constantly feed your exp into a genie and continuously gain spirit points from mobs and quests. Alot of people do this at level 85 and rebirth.
    or you could die alot.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    whut the fruit...who said you wouldn't have enough spirit......
    if anything...it be unlimited...
    b:surrenderIt's....OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!

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  • DrawtheTide - Heavens Tear
    DrawtheTide - Heavens Tear Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I completely agree with drawthetide. I level both, and keep tideform at level one for more spirit. you can't use skills with it, so it's kinda pointlessb:surrender I love my psychic. I also find black voodoo and soul of vengence=pwnage. At any rate, PSYCHIC FTW!!!! b:victory

    beware, not to many good things happen to ppl who agree with me b:laugh but ya lvl both till u fell what u like and use most, and lower lvls its easy to get sp, easier at higher lvls, at 71 cleric had like 2 mill sp
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    beware, not to many good things happen to ppl who agree with me b:laugh but ya lvl both till u fell what u like and use most, and lower lvls its easy to get sp, easier at higher lvls, at 71 cleric had like 2 mill sp

    only 2 million?
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  • AngelOfLies - Heavens Tear
    AngelOfLies - Heavens Tear Posts: 217 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    yes only 2 mill, i spent some on skills then genie...
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  • vanillaquill77
    vanillaquill77 Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I like useing black voodoo and soul of vengence cuz i feel protected AND im doing killer damageb:laugh
  • Baalbak - Dreamweaver
    Baalbak - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,624 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    LA psychic + soul of vengeance + white voodoo + cleric heals (or HP charm or HP food) = Able to kill the fb19 squid. I know this cuz I didn't want to be like everyone else who was doing it when i was and letting some 6x player kill it for them. I just brought along a 6x cleric (only one i could find at the moment) to heal me only. with the cool down of white voodoo, you can keep it activated at all times, and soul of vengeance can be activated as soon as it cools off. At any rate - I was taking only 80 damage from the boss on my lvl 19 light armor psycho with level 2 white voodoo (this with no cleric buffs). When I tried swapping around to Black voodoo, my damage taken shot up to about 128.

    I can see the ups and downs to both skills.. if being DD, Black Voodoo stays up. If in danger or push comes to shove and you need to do a boss yourself with only a cleric or charm, White Voodoo stays up.
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  • Nytelll - Dreamweaver
    Nytelll - Dreamweaver Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i would lvl both white and black, and as others said tide form isn't worth it, well if ur not stupid and dont want to spend 5+ gold on wings, then i would lvl it up when ever u have extra sp. i have it at lvl 2 right now and it helps cause i cant fly and swimming is faster that way. but thats just my opinion
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  • titanmaster0
    titanmaster0 Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    i dont get people who likes white voodo psychics are damage dealers not a tank with black voodo you will kill mobs faster and thats the hole point you can always find a bM or a Barb to tank
  • Damaged - Lost City
    Damaged - Lost City Posts: 460 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    whut the fruit...who said you wouldn't have enough spirit......
    if anything...it be unlimited...
    b:surrenderIt's....OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!

    b:shocked

    it be 6 million + and counting.
    o.o'

    You are aware that eventually you'll be needing to get maxed ultis (can leave out MS), your 89 skills which use 1m spirit each, and maxing all of your NPC skils except for the obviously **** ones

    Not to mention a good genie, plus spirit left over if you want to get some other nice skill books that aren't hell\sage gush\pyro\stone rain
  • wnight
    wnight Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    So far i have seen that White Voodoo pointless me haven't used it at all even though i keep them more less same lvl( lvl 45). Black Voodoo on other hand just rapping machine either purely casted then followed by "sand combo" or casted after mirror and rest. As well if build is pure the damage increase VERY noticeable. b:surrender
    About builds: Tide minimum requirements for their weapons so High that even thinking to lean towards LA builds kinda creepy since loss in power huge and goes with next level higher and higher , even for assassins.
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  • Amouriv - Dreamweaver
    Amouriv - Dreamweaver Posts: 222 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Im getting my white voodoo to 50 def level and stopping. I am maxing my black voodoo.
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    You are aware that eventually you'll be needing to get maxed ultis (can leave out MS), your 89 skills which use 1m spirit each, and maxing all of your NPC skils except for the obviously **** ones

    Not to mention a good genie, plus spirit left over if you want to get some other nice skill books that aren't hell\sage gush\pyro\stone rain

    X_X'
    why you think me has 6 mil stored away right now...
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  • Chobsi - Heavens Tear
    Chobsi - Heavens Tear Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    so someone said later on in the game, there'll prob not be enough spirit points to lvl the both voodoos....so i was wondering which one i should focus on and was hoping for you guys' input.

    at first, i was thinking the def one....but i was thinking maybe the atk one would be better after lvl 19 since you have landslide and will prob not be taking as much dmg anyway. so the mindset would be the faster you kill, the less you get dmged??

    what do you guys think? which one do you guys prefer?

    I'd say Black, your a DD class. In a squad you would not be hit (or you shouldnt be) and during grinding most of the time you can kill before it gets to you. White voodoo ruins your damage, and on a DD type Damage>Def imo.
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  • Riqi - Harshlands
    Riqi - Harshlands Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Blck voodoo is by far more useful IMO
  • KareszBeast - Heavens Tear
    KareszBeast - Heavens Tear Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    No doubt Black Voodoo is just more useful - personally I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to use that for normal killing, the damage difference is very well noticeable even at level 20. I also see no reason why White Voodoo should ever be used under normal circumstances - even level 1 gives you such a large damage reduction, it's just not worth it. I can however see how it could be useful if you draw agro on a mob in an FB run (for instance), that 60+% reduction should easily give the tank enough time to pull agro back.
  • Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear
    Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear Posts: 798 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Level white voodoo

    Do NOT level black voodoo until they adjust it
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  • Shealu - Heavens Tear
    Shealu - Heavens Tear Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    lvl BLACK VOODOO first it s the most usefull the other one is for when you re in danger it totaly ruins your dmg, you can not even hoppe on the reflect to kill mobs coz the dmg you deal are lowered by your highe def lvl
  • Anyndell - Dreamweaver
    Anyndell - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    You guys do realise that using White Voodoo decreases your damage from Soul of Vengeance too, right? That means you'll have a hard time killing mobs with just reflecting. But! The damage from Torrent DOESN'T decrease with White Voodoo. I don't know about the earth DoT, as I haven't done my culti yet but I think it will work like Torrent. So with your Def level at 66 and Atk at -99 you can still do some damage.

    I have been leveling both Voodoos but I have mainly used Black as it helps me kill the mobs before they touch me ^^ I'd also like to know why Black Voodoo would be adjusted. Is it because of being able to kill without taking damage or something? Someone please tell me :)
  • Szol - Harshlands
    Szol - Harshlands Posts: 242 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Level white voodoo

    Do NOT level black voodoo until they adjust it


    i think u mixed the colors :)

    and at the moment i got to agree to ur other post about white voodoo ---
    dont max it -- i did and it gimped my dmg - lvl it to 5 or 6 and leave it
  • Swdgy - Heavens Tear
    Swdgy - Heavens Tear Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    White voodoo is useless in PvE unless you have some weird pure DoT build or you're if the tank o.o
    Compleatly useless other than that.
    you'd do more damage with black voodoo and your yoyo than with white voodoo and skills (if white voodoo is maxed)
    so yeah only black, no white (or one of the most unimportant ones) if you're pveing...
    Might need white for TW though.... not sure
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  • rlb
    rlb Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I personaly like to use my black voodoo (as a pure intel) becuase you are in fact able to kill mobs your own lvl and some higher (1-3 lvls) in three hits anyway and even if they get close (inc. movement speed,life,or mag def) you have landslide and soul of stunning which bide you some time and as a psychic you dont take much to kill....I do like the white voodoo against bosses and elite mobs :)) hope this opinion helpsb:victory
  • Mazera - Lost City
    Mazera - Lost City Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    soz my avatar didnt show :p im rlb thought it would help to show i was fishy
  • Devilblooded - Heavens Tear
    Devilblooded - Heavens Tear Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    just pointing up some fact: white vodoo doesnt decrease dmg from mirror because mirror reflect dmg based on your soulforce, so the dmg you take have notthing to do with the reflect, 2nd the DoT are nerfed but not as much as other skill are, my main use of (lvl 5 white voodoo) is aoe phys tank with cleric, tank it self and spam soul skill ( red tide soul burn and soul of vengeance + DoT) to keep aggro, and dont rely much on soul of vengeance for dmg i barely use it myself at lvl 66 because the mana drain is simply horrible and we dont have much mp so 1 mob on white voodoo + mirror can simply whipe all your mp.
    also black voodoo is awesome, dmg increase is just insane but u become an aggro magnet so be carefull, espacially on fire mob or boss like wyvern wich i stole aggro from a lvl 83 barb b:shocked so always keep 1 spark ready for phys immune >:D
  • zambor
    zambor Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    just pointing up some fact: white vodoo doesnt decrease dmg from mirror because mirror reflect dmg based on your soulforce, so the dmg you take have notthing to do with the reflect, 2nd the DoT are nerfed but not as much as other skill are, my main use of (lvl 5 white voodoo) is aoe phys tank with cleric, tank it self and spam soul skill ( red tide soul burn and soul of vengeance + DoT) to keep aggro, and dont rely much on soul of vengeance for dmg i barely use it myself at lvl 66 because the mana drain is simply horrible and we dont have much mp so 1 mob on white voodoo + mirror can simply whipe all your mp.
    also black voodoo is awesome, dmg increase is just insane but u become an aggro magnet so be carefull, espacially on fire mob or boss like wyvern wich i stole aggro from a lvl 83 barb b:shocked so always keep 1 spark ready for phys immune >:D


    About the DoT, I'd tested it about 3 times, and noticed that the two voodoos has no
    effect over DoT damage. the same monster, I turn on the black voodoo and cast torrent on monster, i saw the damage and fly away, so I wait until black ends and cast torrent again, saw the damage again and fly, then all again with the white one.

    curious fact: sometimes I hit harder using DoT with white voodoo than with no voodoo or even with black.
  • Devilblooded - Heavens Tear
    Devilblooded - Heavens Tear Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    when i tried DoT where sightly nerfed, about 50 dmg per tick diff gonna try it again

    edit: your right my bad, DoT do more dmg on white voodoo thats maybe why i was wrong just didnt paid attention of the voodoo i where using. but thats nice to know and weird as well.
  • HeavenTear - Dreamweaver
    HeavenTear - Dreamweaver Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I usually use black voodoo because i deal a lot of damage. Combined with Soul of Vangeance is a good choice for all. In PvP White Voodoo rules :).
  • Anyndell - Dreamweaver
    Anyndell - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    just pointing up some fact: white vodoo doesnt decrease dmg from mirror because mirror reflect dmg based on your soulforce, so the dmg you take have notthing to do with the reflect, 2nd the DoT are nerfed but not as much as other skill are, my main use of (lvl 5 white voodoo) is aoe phys tank with cleric, tank it self and spam soul skill ( red tide soul burn and soul of vengeance + DoT) to keep aggro, and dont rely much on soul of vengeance for dmg i barely use it myself at lvl 66 because the mana drain is simply horrible and we dont have much mp so 1 mob on white voodoo + mirror can simply whipe all your mp.
    also black voodoo is awesome, dmg increase is just insane but u become an aggro magnet so be carefull, espacially on fire mob or boss like wyvern wich i stole aggro from a lvl 83 barb b:shocked so always keep 1 spark ready for phys immune >:D


    Well, if White Voodoo doesn't decrease damage from Soul of Vengeance, how do you explain this?
    With no Voodoos on kuva1.jpg
    With Black Voodoo on kuva2.jpg
    With White Voodoo on kuva3.jpg
    With Black Voodoo on, actual damage kuva4.jpg
    With White Voodoo on, actual damage kuva5.jpg

    I just wanted to point out some facts ^^