End Game Barbarian - Help

Dsholder - Dreamweaver
Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
edited March 2010 in Barbarian
End Game Tank



Hello my name is Dsholder and I am preparing to become a end-game tank and would love any advice from everyone out there. I've already found out all of the skills that I need for becoming a tank and spent much spirit towards them. I have gotten 'Shapeshifting Intensity' to 10, 'Fleash Ream" to 10, and 'Alacrity of the Beast' to 8. I've done my FB - 59 and awarded myself to the spell of 'Invoke the Spirit'. I need to know how to achieve the maximum amount of hitpoints while still having a great amount of defence for tanking bosses.

What weapon should I aim for towards end-game to weild? I do not want to sacrafice a lot of vitality by having a weapon that requires a lot of strength either. I know it's possible to put vitality-like shards or soulspheres into weapons, but I believe that it's possible to put it in some of the lower level weapons too.

Final Questions

What Weapon should I have end-game as a tank?
What Armor should I have end-game as a tank?
Are there any special ways that anyone else tanks a boss?
What are some of the popular bosses that Barbarians tank and do not tank?


If anyone wants to message me in-game I will be playing on Dreamweaver PvE East. My character is Dsholder. Thankyou all in advance for the thoughts and comments with any valuable advice.
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  • Kebo - Harshlands
    Kebo - Harshlands Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Barb tanks everything.
  • RedsRose - Lost City
    RedsRose - Lost City Posts: 12,354 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Kebo - Harshlands wrote: »
    Barb tanks everything.

    Not true in end-game.

    I say this because there are some bosses that are better suited for different classes....One example is Sleep Boss in 3-3 is better tanked by an Archer....(b:cry that boss hates me...chain sleep ftl)
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  • Darksmiley - Heavens Tear
    Darksmiley - Heavens Tear Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    What Weapon should I have end-game as a tank?
    What Armor should I have end-game as a tank?
    Are there any special ways that anyone else tanks a boss?
    What are some of the popular bosses that Barbarians tank and do not tank?

    1st of all. What lvl do you consider endgame?

    1. See above ^
    2. The TT90 Green is good tanking gear. The TT90 gold neck that gives mag resist and +5% hp is nice. The Cape of Tauren Chieftan gives mag resist. Misty Forest Rings. Helm of Aqua Viciousness or Helm of Pirate are good helms 4 sock of course :).

    3. I like to demon spark while tanking just cause its fun DDin and tanking at the same time :)

    4. lets seee.. Popular boss for barb to tank.. Eyes of the Krimson Beyond, Pole and Nob in fb69, Drummer. Unpopular bosses for barbs... Mantavip scout, that Mag wolf out up near swiftwind?
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  • XylolyX - Heavens Tear
    XylolyX - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,097 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Kebo - Harshlands wrote: »
    Barb tanks everything.

    Not in FF either.

    We do a good job on most bosses, but some are more suited to Wizzies, Clerics, and archers....not to mention Hercs.
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  • Cleon - Harshlands
    Cleon - Harshlands Posts: 240 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    What Weapon should I have end-game as a tank?
    Pan Gu's Giant Axe (the one with the "Shield of Chi") for tanking gives the most HP and it's str requirement is only 252 instead of HH90 is 272.

    What Armor should I have end-game as a tank?
    HH99 gold set (arms, boots, legs and chest)

    If you can get the event helmet, belt, cape and rings.

    If not try to get HH90 gold helmet, the 3rd or 4th past element belt (+95), a good 3* cape/HH90 cape/96 mold cape and old HT magic rings with +vit or +hp (refine them for mdef).

    Necklace should be the HH90 gold one with the +5% hp (the elemental one) or if you are really rich/lucky get the cube necklace.

    Shard everything with HP gems, or, again, if you are rich with vitality stones.

    Are there any special ways that anyone else tanks a boss?
    You will learn this as you level up, some bosses have "random" AoEs/mobs spawning/or something else that you will need to be aware of.

    What are some of the popular bosses that Barbarians tank and do not tank?
    I believe that Barbarians can tank almost everything, but some bosses are better suited for an Archer, a Herc or another class to tank.
  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I've tanked the Drummer Boss, Chin, DOD, Krimson, Kimsa, FB 39 bosses, Quingzi, FB 51 bosses, Slitt so far.. I found out that Wizards can tank Mantavip and that Clerics can tank Empyrean..
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  • Partyanimal - Raging Tide
    Partyanimal - Raging Tide Posts: 41 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Question is what level do you consider end game?
  • _julio - Sanctuary
    _julio - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    RedsRose - Lost City wrote: »
    Not true in end-game.

    I say this because there are some bosses that are better suited for different classes....One example is Sleep Boss in 3-3 is better tanked by an Archer....(b:cry that boss hates me...chain sleep ftl)

    boss is alot easier if tanked by a barb tho. if you know how to do it
  • _julio - Sanctuary
    _julio - Sanctuary Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    What Weapon should I have end-game as a tank?
    calamities or pangu's axe if you can get a hold of one, if not try going for tt99 polehammer but i think if your going that high and you want top be "pure tank" its better to stick with calamities and restat so that you have min str and dex
    What Armor should I have end-game as a tank?
    tt99 gold( the 4 main pieces) event helm if not try crafting an oht one with good stats, oht rings unless u can get lunar rings, tauren chief cape unless you can get event cape
    Are there any special ways that anyone else tanks a boss?
    depending on which boss but then again, you have to learn your way of tanking, there is no "right" way of tanking and if u lose aggro, then your not tanking ;p or dd is doing to much damage.
    What are some of the popular bosses that Barbarians tank and do not tank?
    barbs tank everything, some classes may prefer to tank others for ex, veno's tend to tank some tt bosses, but over all barbs can tank everything
  • KeMeK - Heavens Tear
    KeMeK - Heavens Tear Posts: 82 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    This is what i have prepared for my self thus far haven't taken the time to pm most of the top barbs on HT and ask them a few questions, TT90 green armor, ornaments are consisting of, Demon Slaughter untill 95, 2 misty rings, the tt90 gold elemental neck, cape of tauren cheiften, i need to replace my aqua viciousness helm for chinteins or helm of holy punishment, and my pride and join best tanking wep Pan Gu's Giant Axe.

    This being said, ignore all haters when possible, if you have the money to spend on Zhen spend it, I prefer to say... Use gold as much as needed to get the best gear possible cause of all people in the game who'll use it the most for in game purposes and not just pking it's you the tank. But always remember its a game and try to enjoy it. let haters be haters and play this game in a way that makes you feel happy. There is always gonna be someone bigger and better, Dont focus on being the best, just be the best that you can... Historic speak finished.. Now go tank a boss and enjoy it
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  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    thanks for the advice everyone
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  • VILKASS - Sanctuary
    VILKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    What Weapon should I have end-game as a tank?
    Pan's axe I guess.
    Also 99 Scarlet one's look really nice.. increase mgk/phys def, restore hp + vit bonus... But haven't tried em.
    What Armor should I have end-game as a tank?
    Go Nirvana all the way XD
    calamities or pangu's axe if you can get a hold of one, if not try going for tt99 polehammer but i think if your going that high and you want top be "pure tank" its better to stick with calamities and restat so that you have min str and dex

    b:question He won't have agro issues like this? Or is calam double dmg enough to hold it?
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  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I'm gonna go for the Pan Gu's and Nirvana then...
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  • Must - Lost City
    Must - Lost City Posts: 555 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Have u ppl heard about GX axes???
    I know its not the best tanking wep but damm i will hate bartb dmg as time goes bye..... And even worst when u get thosse lvl (90,90plus) ill get tired of tanking tanking tanking and guess wt more tanking.... so better choose wisely...
  • Fenian_I - Dreamweaver
    Fenian_I - Dreamweaver Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Well... seeing as I'm a bit late with this response, a lot of what I wanted to say has already been said. Everyone has said pretty much the same armour to wear. The only thing that seems to change a lot is the weapon. Of course Pan Gu's giant axe is the best one you can use for tanking (just refine it a few times to increase the dmg). DO NOT use calamity axes for endgame. I understand why that one was mentioned, but the amount you save in your stats will not make up for the lack of usefulness from these axes. Their dmg is too low to keep aggro from a 90+ archer (even if the archer is only doing normal attacks and you are spamming flesh ream). Also, you're just gonna kill your charm even faster with that berserk that always seems to activate at the worst possible time during a boss. If you cannot get Pan Gu's Giant Axe, I'd suggest you stick with TT axes. You need to keep high enough dmg or you will not keep aggro, even with flesh ream.

    As for bosses... with my barb, I have not yet come to a boss I could not tank. The only times I would ever let another class tank before a barb is on bosses where archers can tank it easily, and venos with hercs in TT. I would never let a wiz tank a boss, strictly because they use spells... and spells can be interrupted. As for the other classes, they do not have any aggro controlling skills, and that could spell disaster for the entire group. (When reading this, please keep in mind that I stopped playing this game before psychic and assassin were introduced, so I am unsure of their abilities... however I still feel that a person would be safer letting a barb tank before either of those 2 classes).


    Anyway, that's just my 2 cents.
  • Xtasy - Raging Tide
    Xtasy - Raging Tide Posts: 136 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    what about pvp axe xD

    GX / TT99 or whatever
  • Xnastyx - Lost City
    Xnastyx - Lost City Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    tanking isn't rocket science.Your weapon doesn't need to be based on it. As damage helps you maintain aggro and Lvl. 11 flesh ream, makes it harder for others to steal aggro from you.GX refined is best end game, that is if your on a pvp server.

    On the other hand. If your on of those perdition centered barbs the pu axe is best lol. It depends on what u like to do ^^
  • VILKASS - Sanctuary
    VILKASS - Sanctuary Posts: 278 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    On the other hand. If your on of those perdition centered barbs the pu axe is best lol.
    Wouldn't lunar dragonhunts be better then?
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  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I don't really get bored when I tank a boss because It's something I enjoy so I will not really need to prepare to become a damage dealer. I'm satisfied if I will have the best axes to keep aggro and give myself high vitality.
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  • Fenian_I - Dreamweaver
    Fenian_I - Dreamweaver Posts: 91 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I don't really get bored when I tank a boss because It's something I enjoy so I will not really need to prepare to become a damage dealer. I'm satisfied if I will have the best axes to keep aggro and give myself high vitality.

    besides using your aggro catching skills, the only thing that's gonna help you keep aggro is how much dmg you do and how little dmg the rest of the party does
  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Can any of you capture some screenshots of "view player info" so that I can see the gear bonuses of the different high level armor and axes please?
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  • Xerafin - Heavens Tear
    Xerafin - Heavens Tear Posts: 53 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Armor:

    Annihilator Plate
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/12658

    Legs:
    Lionheart Cuisses
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14934

    Boots:
    Lionheart Greaves
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14940

    Helmet:
    Forest's Wisdom
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/20254

    Axe:
    Pan Gu's Giant Axe
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/items/16072

    Did i miss something? ;)
  • EmptyWords - Heavens Tear
    EmptyWords - Heavens Tear Posts: 81 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi/items/14928

    Lionheart plate??
  • DaCage - Sanctuary
    DaCage - Sanctuary Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    @ Xerafin 4x TT99 peices give you 15 vit there for TT99>that crappy chest you put in. Dont know if you just looked for something shiny but the stats are obviously better as well.
  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Thanks for the screenshots, some of my barbarian friends had Pan Gu axes gold but then moved on to the lv. 99 axes. The gear you showed me pics of looks pretty cool too.
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  • Dsholder - Dreamweaver
    Dsholder - Dreamweaver Posts: 626 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    End-Game barbs usually have a ton of vitality and strenght. I need your opinions on the following:

    Max Strength:
    Max Vitality:
    Max Dex:

    Some screenshots of armor and weapon requirements are also appreciated!
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  • Lycanthar - Sanctuary
    Lycanthar - Sanctuary Posts: 389 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    HOW2BARB

    STR: Add only as required by your current weapon.
    DEX: Stop at 60.
    VIT: All other points go here.

    Armor and Weapon Requirements: http://www.pwdatabase.com/pwi

    Enjoy.
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