Archers, Assassins, fist BMs Oh My!!

glixx
glixx Posts: 4 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Assassin
Some of you think assassins will replace archers others fist BMs. Can't we all just get along? They will fill their own neich in PW as high Crit/Ev. skill dmg dealers. Besides imagine the carnage these three classes could unleash in an FB part! The archer's Wings of Protection, the assassin's Bloodpaint and Subsea Strike, the fist BM's Aura of the Golden Bell & Buddha's Guard defence and Stream Strike threat pulling, the assassin & BM keeping the boss stun locked and bleeding, the archer attacking from safety, fist BM's dps, assassin's skill crits and high evasion all around! But if they must fight fist BM's avoid stun lock with shadowless kick (also a ****-off right after Chill of the Deep) and Archers use their range and their own immobilizing and speed reduction skills to keep the ball in their court, which is not to say Assassins aren't without their own tactics, but ArkToNE has already pointed them out. If you need to look up any of the skills mentioned see www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

note: fist BMs tank like archers (dex), and my short for assassin is neither **** nor Sin but ASN, and could there really be any confusion as to which class that referes to?
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  • Terraa - Lost City
    Terraa - Lost City Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    glixx wrote: »
    ... and my short for assassin is neither **** nor Sin but ASN, and could there really be any confusion as to which class that referes to?

    Yes. I'd be constantly reminded of racial demographics.

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  • Joshcja - Sanctuary
    Joshcja - Sanctuary Posts: 3,502 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    glixx wrote: »
    Some of you think assassins will replace archers others fist BMs. Can't we all just get along? They will fill their own neich in PW as high Crit/Ev. skill dmg dealers. Besides imagine the carnage these three classes could unleash in an FB part! The archer's Wings of Protection, the assassin's Bloodpaint and Subsea Strike, the fist BM's Aura of the Golden Bell & Buddha's Guard defence and Stream Strike threat pulling, the assassin & BM keeping the boss stun locked and bleeding, the archer attacking from safety, fist BM's dps, assassin's skill crits and high evasion all around! But if they must fight fist BM's avoid stun lock with shadowless kick (also a ****-off right after Chill of the Deep) and Archers use their range and their own immobilizing and speed reduction skills to keep the ball in their court, which is not to say Assassins aren't without their own tactics, but ArkToNE has already pointed them out. If you need to look up any of the skills mentioned see www.ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php

    note: fist BMs tank like archers (dex), and my short for assassin is neither **** nor Sin but ASN, and could there really be any confusion as to which class that referes to?

    yes they COULD work together and probobly will (dirty archers stole my lunch REVENGE)

    common term is sin use it

    your stratagie and basic undersnanding of the classes is

    so

    WRONG

    really go play the game then post...i like the sentiment but the nubness kinda kills it for me
    Gifs are hard to make work here
  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    wings of protection sucks. the only thing good about it is the speed bonus, which every other speed buff and their mother (except for summer sprint?) likes to override

    worst buff in existence, even worse than wizard's water buff. more than half the classes can't gain **** from an evasion buff (casters/barb).

    maybe if they didn't mess up misty forest's price, or didn't have so many lunar rings around, evasion might matter or something. not.
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  • BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear
    BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    No wings of Protection doesn't suck...especially the Demon skill. Fist Bm, Archer and a sin WILL gain great benefits. 40% maxed and 50% Demon. damn only Clerics, Barbs and Venos won't really benefit from this but those classes who already have good Dex....yeah u can guess. So Quilue u sure a stupid for saying that. i played my Archer my whole life in PW so stop talking ****.

    and btw read the post. he was talking only bout Fist bms, archers and sins(the classes that actually GAIN a LOT from that skill).
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  • glixx
    glixx Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Terraa - Lost City wrote: »
    Yes. I'd be constantly reminded of racial demographics.

    ~Terraa

    Racial Demographics? Honestly I don't get that association at all.
    <first letter=A><most common letter=S><last letter=N> now if you had said it reminded you of MSN (or TSN for you MMOing sportsfans lol where would they find the time ;D) I could see the similarity, if you forget its PerfectWorld also in saying it pronounce don't spell it out and it is just as valid as the other 2 short forms, I'm just putting it out there for consideration. Now can we leave the note behind us and discuss the main section, please.
  • Mayfly - Dreamweaver
    Mayfly - Dreamweaver Posts: 6,094 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    ASN is an abbreviation of Asian.
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  • Quilue - Sanctuary
    Quilue - Sanctuary Posts: 5,787 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    No wings of Protection doesn't suck...especially the Demon skill. Fist Bm, Archer and a sin WILL gain great benefits. 40% maxed and 50% Demon. damn only Clerics, Barbs and Venos won't really benefit from this but those classes who already have good Dex....yeah u can guess. So Quilue u sure a stupid for saying that. i played my Archer my whole life in PW so stop talking ****.

    and btw read the post. he was talking only bout Fist bms, archers and sins(the classes that actually GAIN a LOT from that skill).

    even barbs can get 3k+ accuracy at endgame, archers can get as high as 7k. barbs, for that matter have 100% attacks, magic doesn't miss, nor do veno pet spells like flesh ream ever miss.

    with the 50% acc rings floating around everywhere, you won't be evading a whole lot at all. if evasion is so useful, why don't you socket some amber? it'd stack with your awesome evasion buff LOL.

    great benefits my ****. 9x archers hit me when i have the 1k% evasion buff on, 50% is going to do jack ****.
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  • glixx
    glixx Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Quilue - Sanctuary wrote: »
    even barbs can get 3k+ accuracy at endgame, archers can get as high as 7k. barbs, for that matter have 100% attacks, magic doesn't miss, nor do veno pet spells like flesh ream ever miss.

    with the 50% acc rings floating around everywhere, you won't be evading a whole lot at all. if evasion is so useful, why don't you socket some amber? it'd stack with your awesome evasion buff LOL.

    great benefits my ****. 9x archers hit me when i have the 1k% evasion buff on, 50% is going to do jack ****.
    I'm talking about FBs in which evasion will save a lot of HP, and evasion works on physical and magic damage, normal attacks and skills it is the best all purpose defence. By lvl 90 I'll have over 3K BASE evasion so yeah wings of protection is one of the best buffs I can get, XD
    yes you'll get hit but FAR less often, most people try to pump up dmg, consider if 50% of attacks are misses doesn't that effectively cut your opponents DPS in HALF? Can armour do that?
  • Brigid - Harshlands
    Brigid - Harshlands Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Evasion does NOT work on magic attacks. Only physical. Trust us, Evasion is pretty much useless. It's too unreliable, and too broken (for example, what Quilue was saying about the +1000% evasion buff). That's well over 30 THOUSAND evasion, yet she still gets hit.

    Sure, it's really nice when it works. But it's not something to rely on by any means.
  • glixx
    glixx Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Archers especially pure dex archers can trade their bow for low lvl axes and tank, usually in lu of a barbarian. The are not HP tanks they're EV tanks, fist BMs can do it too (other BMs become HP tanks) each point of dex gives BMs 10EV & 10ACC for a reason, archers and ASNs only get 6EV & 8ACC for each point of dex.
  • BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear
    BIackTyphoon - Heavens Tear Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    hmm ...well k i guess ir right bout evasion beeing useless at some point. i was purely thinking bout melee fighter like bm or barb to fight against. and bout the mag attack...glad we have skills to evade even that(only 25% maxed tho)
    but as long as its a skill it can be evaded....at least thats what the discription said
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