Sage Stormrage Eagleon

Lunchbox - Dreamweaver
Lunchbox - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
edited December 2009 in Archer
I was looking at Sage Stormrage Eagleon on http://ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php it states: Sage version reduces target's physical and magic defense by 20%. Then i looked at the same skill with the PW-MY translation http://ecatomb.net/skillmy.php and it states: Within the duration, when target is under the state effect, both its' physical and magic attack damage will reduce by 20% base on the equipment attack value. So, i was wondering if anyone could clear it up. Does it reduce attack or defense?
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  • Levoden - Heavens Tear
    Levoden - Heavens Tear Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I may be wrong here, but I think Stormrage Eagleon is one of the most useless skills an Archer can get, let alone max.

    Which is probably why no one else is responding lol
  • Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973
    Asterelle - Sanctuary_1381265973 Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lunchbox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    I was looking at Sage Stormrage Eagleon on http://ecatomb.net/skillpwi.php it states: Sage version reduces target's physical and magic defense by 20%. Then i looked at the same skill with the PW-MY translation http://ecatomb.net/skillmy.php and it states: Within the duration, when target is under the state effect, both its' physical and magic attack damage will reduce by 20% base on the equipment attack value. So, i was wondering if anyone could clear it up. Does it reduce attack or defense?

    Good find. The general rule of thumb is that pw-my descriptions are more accurate. If so that makes it a pretty lousy pvp skill. -20% equipment damage is about 3% less total damage.

    On a boss if it decreases their attack by 20% that could be useful. Awaiting a sage archer to confirm it.
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  • truekossy
    truekossy Posts: 7,021 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Asterelle - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Awaiting a sage archer to confirm it.

    An archer with maxed stormrage that just happens to be sage?




    ...... This is gonna take a while to confirm. b:surrender
  • Illyana - Dreamweaver
    Illyana - Dreamweaver Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Give me about 60 more percent.
    5.0 "Pure" 8jun Sage Clawrcher of Dreamweaver
  • TigerLily - Lost City
    TigerLily - Lost City Posts: 1,209 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    It reduces targets phy/mag def with 20% of equipment value. I have it in my bank, but i will probably never learn it since its a huge waste of sp and money.

    There is absolutely no use for it at all, not even in pve. If i would use it when fighting a boss in lets say TT, it would overwrite the barb, veno or clerics debuffs, which reduces more of the boss defenses than sage stormrage does.

    I guess if you're soloing a boss with 1 cleric spam healing than it might have some use. All tho i think saving up for a triple spark will make the boss die faster than a 20% equipment debuff b:surrender.

    And in pvp...i can see so many better ways for an archer to use 2 sparks.
  • Illyana - Dreamweaver
    Illyana - Dreamweaver Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    TigerLily - Lost City wrote: »
    If i would use it when fighting a boss in lets say TT, it would overwrite the barb, veno or clerics debuffs, which reduces more of the boss defenses than sage stormrage does.

    Have you seen this happen? Sage Stormrage does not add any additional icons to the boss; any additional debuffs from other classes still maintain their buff icons/cooldowns.
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  • Lunchbox - Dreamweaver
    Lunchbox - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Illyana - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Have you seen this happen? Sage Stormrage does not add any additional icons to the boss; any additional debuffs from other classes still maintain their buff icons/cooldowns.
    If this is true, then Sage Stormrage + Thundershock = -70% Metal Defense + Elemental Seal = -100% Metal Defense, -105% if it's level 11 Elemental Seal. Mix this with extreme poison, and you could get a quick kill on anyone.
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Lunchbox - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    If this is true, then Sage Stormrage + Thundershock = -70% Metal Defense + Elemental Seal = -100% Metal Defense, -105% if it's level 11 Elemental Seal. Mix this with extreme poison, and you could get a quick kill on anyone.

    I think what Illyana meant was they do not stack, but the original "debuff" (for example cleric mag debuff) duration and characteristics remain.

    Generally if they have the same buff/debuff icon, they do not stack. (with an exception of only a few out there and I believe they have different "descriptions" when you hover your mouse over duplicate icons).
  • Lunchbox - Dreamweaver
    Lunchbox - Dreamweaver Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I think what Illyana meant was they do not stack, but the original "debuff" (for example cleric mag debuff) duration and characteristics remain.

    Generally if they have the same buff/debuff icon, they do not stack. (with an exception of only a few out there and I believe they have different "descriptions" when you hover your mouse over duplicate icons).

    Ah, then it is useless =/
  • Chezedude - Dreamweaver
    Chezedude - Dreamweaver Posts: 236 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I've seen it (not used by me). But it debuffs the boss's phy atk and mag atk.

    At least those are the icons that shows up after it's used. So the skill description is not correct. It debuffs attack instead of defense.
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  • Illyana - Dreamweaver
    Illyana - Dreamweaver Posts: 348 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Must have been Er_Nai-- that's too bad. Looks like there is another description error that needs to be fixed for sage stormrage. Perhaps if anything then, it can be used for someone *cough*Cheze*cough* to tank Harpy. Cheze, get your HP up.
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  • KedgeSniper - Lost City
    KedgeSniper - Lost City Posts: 733 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Only way eaglon can be handy is if your 100. N you have awaken. N your 1v1 vs a bm.. in that case an extra metal skill MITE HELP. but overall the damage is not such a huge for 2 sparks n like lily said. Its better off triple sparking.
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