I dislike public quest

Vitenka - Dreamweaver · December 2009

So yes, this is all my personal opinion but.

Public quest is like the worst bits of rebirth and the worst bits of zhenning (which, oh look! That's the worst bits of rebirth again!) all mixed up into a fat pile of unlimited squads that can't talk to one another, don't want to talk to one another - and with a couple of pink named gits deliberately dragging the boss around to try and kill everyone.

Bake in a pile of lag for twenty minutes, and then slap you upside the face with rewards allocated on an opaque and deliberately random system.

"Thank you for coming, try again."

Thank you but no, I think Sir that I will not. I will be over here attempting to re-errect the barrier that walled your putrid islands away from us civilised folk by the sheer power of my burning hatred.

ZSage - Heavens Tear · December 2009

It's not that bad, except for people pulling boss to get people killed intentionally i think it's kinda fun.

StormHydra - Sanctuary · December 2009

That rant was EPIC.
..

I actually find it fun. And your a veno, venos have it easy with the public quest (theres a guide by foltern that mentions why).

And YOURE ON A PVE SERVER!? I cant even imagine this public quest on a PVP server. Hopefully the devs were smart enough to make the rotflesh trench a safe zone, otherwise there would be swarms of people, and people would travel halfway across the map just to mass aoe the lvl 70s grinding there.

ANd this is like the KS argument. No one lures the boss deliberately to kill someone. Its always an accident. Its usually an archer barraging a mob that moves away, or a wizard/archer/barbarian knocking back a mob into the boss which aggroes it without the person realising.

System · December 2009

I'm having a blast at Public Quest

, it's really nice XP

oxytorch · December 2009

The PQ quest is massive mana burn, massive hp burn, massive equipment repair bill in the hopes to get some extra exp...They introduced this quest for the same reason thats driven by every other decision made in this game.. to force people to go directly to the cash shop . No big surprise there b:shocked b:shocked .

EDIT : However it is fun !!

Vitenka - Dreamweaver · December 2009

StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »

That rant was EPIC.

Thank you, I did try

I actually find it fun. And your a veno, venos have it easy with the public quest (theres a guide by foltern that mentions why).

The word venomancer doesn't appear in that thread, and I couldn't see anything obvious.

Yes, it's pretty easy to survive it and help kill (apart from the boss appearing from a pile of lag to nuke you) - but it doesn't seem worth it.

Hopefully the devs were smart enough to make the rotflesh trench a safe zone, otherwise there would be swarms of people, and people would travel halfway across the map just to mass aoe the lvl 70s grinding there.

Didn't notice, but I don't think it is.

And this is like the KS argument. No one lures the boss deliberately to kill someone. Its always an accident. Its usually an archer barraging a mob that moves away, or a wizard/archer/barbarian knocking back a mob into the boss which aggroes it without the person realising.

Yeah, when they're laughing about it, you can be pretty sure it's on purpose.

On the plus side - the "Game over" (or whatever it says, I don't read rune) when you fly away - that's pretty.

Airyll - Dreamweaver · December 2009

...

If you don't like it, don't do it?

Honestly I'm not quite sure what you're expecting people to say in response to this seemingly QQ thread. If you don't like it and aren't having fun, don't do it. Don't be like the asses who play PW, don't like it, don't have fun, and go out of their way to complain about it yet still don't quit.

If you think it's a waste of time, don't go back. If people are luring bosses around to kill you, keep an eye out for them and if you see them, stay away from them.

Lag sucks, not much I can say about that.

And I don't know if you didn't read the PQ guide properly but the word venomancer is mentioned. Maybe read it again like your teachers always tell you to read things over twice and you'll spot it. The PQ guide mentions venomancers have it easier because they can set their pet on one mob and kill another, maybe with the in between heal.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver · December 2009

Oh, I'm not going to do it again. Just thought a nice rant might cheer me up and maybe amuse others.

And it did.

This thread? http://pwi-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=551491
The word venomancer doesn't appear. "Veno" only appears as part of "venomous", one of the monsters.
thread search tools can't find it.

Being constructive?
It would help if the public quest area were larger, keeping the boss area further away from the mobs.
Alternately, it would help if the boss and the elite quests were simultaneous.

It will also be better once people get used to it and settle down.

But no, I'll not be back. I already said where I'd be

Airyll - Dreamweaver · December 2009

I would have suggested something about PKing those who lure the mobs, but sadly it would seem that we're both on Dreamweaver, so unless people leap into PK mode and mercilessly destroy the lurer, it's a bit of an obsolete thing to suggest.

Also, it's curious, I've searched that post myself and it would seem that the bit about venomancers with the advantage because of their pets has been completely edited out. Perhaps I should take my own advice - but I can assure you once upon a time the word "venomancer" was in there, as the OP was describing that venos get a better chance of good rank thanks to their pets.
[Perhaps they got raged at and took it out. IDK, I didn't read that thread fully as it's somewhat pointless to me. =D]

Absoluth - Heavens Tear · December 2009

oxytorch wrote: »

The PQ quest is massive mana burn, massive hp burn, massive equipment repair bill in the hopes to get some extra exp...They introduced this quest for the same reason thats driven by every other decision made in this game.. to force people to go directly to the cash shop . No big surprise there b:shocked b:shocked .

EDIT : However it is fun !!

What? I did the 95+ public quest. I did not use hp charm. I did not use mp charm. I went solo'd halfway (up till snake mobs i cant really tank) and joined a small squad without cleric. I got 3rd place. I never cash shopped nor will i in the future due to the failure of the GMs/Devs in many aspects.

I dont see the relevance of your post dude.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver wrote: »

The word venomancer doesn't appear in that thread, and I couldn't see anything obvious.

Its obvious. Solo venos will always win the event. There were like 15 ppl on my last PQ. I dont remember the ending points, but the ratings were something like this:

1st place - Solo veno 8k+ points
2nd place - Solo veno 6k+ points
3rd place - Me (archer) 4.5k+ points
Everyone else - 3~4.5k points

Notice the absurd point diference between me and 1st place? Even my lv 60 friend with a golem pet wins 1st place vs lv70~80 players on their PQ.

Fact is, any event that has a single skull boss/mob, venos will have advantage. They're pet dmg is bugged, its been a problem since server started and will always be since GMs/Devs are uncapable of using the fix patch they already have to steal money from veno pet cash shoppers.

Saying venos dont get it easy is, im sorry to say, ignorance.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver · December 2009

Humm. Yes, my pet did 2k dps on the boss. Which aint terrible.
My spells did maybe another 2k dps.
I don't know if my debuffs count for anything at all.

That didn't push me into first place, not even into 15th place.

I'm guessing the slowness on the first (and especially) second stage was the reason - an AOE zhenn group just smashes out the damage; I took out three of the elites, tops.

I guess I'm just disappointed by the Devs idea of a 'quest'. Doing stuff all over a whole zone in semi-competition with other players sounded really interesting.
Sitting in a hole roughly the size of the cube AOE grinding monsters whilst a boss roams around (then killing the boss).... doesn't.

I mean, if I want to grind away then I'd rather be alone or in a small group, or for bosses there's twilight-temple dedicated to it.

Qwentomec - Heavens Tear · December 2009

Can't form an opinion on public quests if we can't do them....

Q_Q

ZSage - Heavens Tear · December 2009

Qwentomec - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Can't form an opinion on public quests if we can't do them....

Q_Q

Q.Q
10 char

Transcend - Lost City · December 2009

I assure you that the 95+ PQ's are at least one million times more enjoyable on a PvP server.

Sirrobert - Dreamweaver · December 2009

If you don't like it, don't do it.

I don't use charms, yet I always seem to get atleast 6 medals. Just a matter of finding a good squad, go to the second trench (away from the rest of the group), and kill the mobs.

Than when the boss comes, just DD as hell while staying out of the stun range, and you're done

eatwithspoons · December 2009

All threads will be locked or moved to the correct section. If you do not post in the appropriate section your thread may be locked. This is being enforced due to the influx of threads being placed incorrectly.

tweakz · December 2009

Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

1st place - Solo veno 8k+ points
2nd place - Solo veno 6k+ points
3rd place - Me (archer) 4.5k+ points
Everyone else - 3~4.5k points

Notice the absurd point diference between me and 1st place? Even my lv 60 friend with a golem pet wins 1st place vs lv70~80 players on their PQ.

Fact is, any event that has a single skull boss/mob, venos will have advantage. They're pet dmg is bugged, its been a problem since server started and will always be since GMs/Devs are uncapable of using the fix patch they already have to steal money from veno pet cash shoppers.

Saying venos dont get it easy is, im sorry to say, ignorance.

If pets didn't have reduced dmg on those bosses: it would slow everyone down in TT, FF, etc, including PQ! Prices of TT drops would also cost more/ be rarer. BMs appear to have an advantage on at least one stage of the quest, and I've seen clerics give me a run for the money. When I was placing first: I was working my butt off for it. Fox Form doesn't work in a macro, nor does good timing of debuffs. Most Venos are lazy and easy to beat (me 95 beating 101). Your placements don't take into account that there are more venos than other classes, and likely more good or aggressive players playing venos than other classes.

Vitenka - Dreamweaver · December 2009

eatwithspoons wrote: »

All threads will be locked or moved to the correct section. If you do not post in the appropriate section your thread may be locked. This is being enforced due to the influx of threads being placed incorrectly.

Ex FREAKIN Squeeze me? In what way is this a suggestions thread?

This was a general and funny rant. It's now a pissed off rant. I have several suggestions NOW, most of them unprintable.

oxytorch · December 2009

Absoluth - Heavens Tear wrote: »

What? I did the 95+ public quest. I did not use hp charm. I did not use mp charm. I went solo'd halfway (up till snake mobs i cant really tank) and joined a small squad without cleric. I got 3rd place. I never cash shopped nor will i in the future due to the failure of the GMs/Devs in many aspects.

I dont see the relevance of your post dude.

Of course you dont get the relevance , your a dd.

Hazumu - Dreamweaver · December 2009

oxytorch wrote: »

Of course you dont get the relevance , your a dd.

I'm sorry, but he is right, I don't see the relevance either.

I'm a full support cleric. Just to clarify, SUPPORT, I heal, buff and do other squad maintnance and I get at least 6 medals / run.

I don't use charms, very, very rarely I use pots and still I usually manage to finish in the top 10, last time I did this was in a squad with a veno and I finished 4th, being 3rd for the most of the time.

Fact 1: Solo venos rake ridiculous points
Fact 2: For other classes it is more benefitial to be in a squad of 6 and everyone in the squad will rake 2k+ points, almost quaranteed. (Unless they're all only 60+ against 70+ squads).

Clerics rule the first stage with buffs and heals. I'm very often in the top3 in the first stage and start slowly dropping somewhere into the top10 category. Without a squad, I'm screwed, no chances for me at all.

Bottom line is: I LOVE PQ! Too bad I can't do it anymore as I just dinged to 81. Q_Q

Veronica_ - Heavens Tear · December 2009

I like the public quest is it soo fun and a total massacre. I fight most of my way.The only bad thing is with the boss luring at the second wave.But last time I went we had problems with luring boss out - I just went insane dd and lured it out b:cuteb:cool .

Either way if you find a nice squad it is nice.And if it gives good exp if you give some efford

I dislike public quest

Comments

Categories