Demon or Sage Veno?

Crafty_Mama - Sanctuary
Crafty_Mama - Sanctuary Posts: 194 Arc User
edited January 2010 in Venomancer
I'm just curious whether I should be a Sage or Demon i'm an LA veno and I am really unsure to what i should be. Please put your experiences and info or (threads) b:surrender would help alot b:thanks and also i would like your input on flying pets i hate randomly taming flying pets so..yea i want to stick with 1 good one and call it a day >.>
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  • ravenlis
    ravenlis Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Look at the skills you use most often and compare the Demon bonus vs. the Sage bonus. Then decide if you're going to do a lot of PvP, most venos go Demon for PvP (and it works very well in PvE). The Petite Sawfly is a favorite.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    ravenlis wrote: »
    Look at the skills you use most often and compare the Demon bonus vs. the Sage bonus.

    Wrong. I wouldn't use Soul Degeneration until Sage, and other perks like speed boost during transform in demon don't show up til then either.
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  • ravenlis
    ravenlis Posts: 74 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    tweakz wrote: »
    Wrong. I wouldn't use Soul Degeneration until Sage, and other perks like speed boost during transform in demon don't show up til then either.

    Wrong. Most of the skills you use for ordinary things like your quests or dungeons (like TT) are skills you want to look at. Pick based off of what you use the most. I went Demon because I liked the break from Demon Ironwood. Demon FF was a perk. I like Demon Amp and Demon Bramble and use both pretty frequently. I use Summer Sprint all the time and anticipate getting that for my Veno. I will also get Demon Lending Hand because I can use it on myself with the chance to gain a spark, which will make gaining chi much easier and it can be cast every 15 seconds. Don't look at "perks" like Lending Hand or Fox Form. Look at the skills you use the most, like Ironwood, Venomous Scarab, etc., etc.
  • axt57
    axt57 Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    If you're LA you should probably go demon to further increase your crit bonus.

    LA itself as a build is inferior to most other good builds in terms of total HP/total def; its only worth taking to endgame if you want to increase your crit to dominate in PvP; and since demon gives you crit bonuses, its the prefered choice.

    Other differences can be found in the hundreds of threads that exist on this subject.
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  • WaffleChan - Sanctuary
    WaffleChan - Sanctuary Posts: 2,897 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    sage
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    advice to fledgling archers:
    Going sage is like drunken sex, at first she may look good, but when you wake up the next morning; you'll look at her and go WHAT HAVE I DONE.
  • Brael - Dreamweaver
    Brael - Dreamweaver Posts: 1,430 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    ravenlis wrote: »
    Wrong. Most of the skills you use for ordinary things like your quests or dungeons (like TT) are skills you want to look at. Pick based off of what you use the most. I went Demon because I liked the break from Demon Ironwood. Demon FF was a perk. I like Demon Amp and Demon Bramble and use both pretty frequently. I use Summer Sprint all the time and anticipate getting that for my Veno. I will also get Demon Lending Hand because I can use it on myself with the chance to gain a spark, which will make gaining chi much easier and it can be cast every 15 seconds. Don't look at "perks" like Lending Hand or Fox Form. Look at the skills you use the most, like Ironwood, Venomous Scarab, etc., etc.

    Except, when you go demon/sage and get the skill boosts, the way you play will change. Soul Degeneration and Crush Vigor are two examples. Spark eruptions are another.
  • Crafty_Mama - Sanctuary
    Crafty_Mama - Sanctuary Posts: 194 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    oh my thank you b:thanks i will look into what you guys have said b:thanks
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  • Solandri - Heavens Tear
    Solandri - Heavens Tear Posts: 2,843 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Also keep in mind how easy/hard it will be to get the skills. Last poll I saw had venos going sage by a 3:1 margin, so Demon skills tend to be that much easier/cheaper to get. Especially desirable skills like Sage Soul Degen and Demon Amp (either Amp actually) also tend to be very rare and command a premium price on AH. So unless you already have them or can afford it, you may not want to give them too much weight in your decision. The three easiest skills to get are Fox Form, Venomous, and Ironwood.
  • tweakz
    tweakz Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Solandri - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Especially desirable skills like Sage Soul Degen and Demon Amp (either Amp actually) also tend to be very rare and command a premium price on AH.

    I was lucky enough today to get Sage Soul Degen for a mere 30m in AH today just before I turned 96! Oh how I love it though!
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  • Kalee - Lost City
    Kalee - Lost City Posts: 101 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Hmm, dunno but everyone else but I'm gonna go with demon, the demon ironwood scarab is awesome and the fox form speed boost would help heaps. But to me Demon is more for PvP and Sage is PvE, it kinda all depends on what u wanna be :)
  • Bellamontage - Lost City
    Bellamontage - Lost City Posts: 60 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Go to http://www.ecatomb.net/pwi/skillpwi.php and click the veno section and compare the skills.

    It's really based on your play style.
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