Why is everyone whining?
Millenie - Dreamweaver
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I know that anyone who doesn't want to listen won't listen, but I think we need a quick reality check here.
PERFECT WORLD INTERNATIONAL IS A FREE GAME!
Free! You don't have to pay a CENT to play this game! And I think it's pretty dang fantastic for a free game. The quests, the customization, the graphics. You're getting this for FREE, guys!
Cash shop? Well, obviously they're in it for the money! And can you honestly say that the people who have done such an amazing job don't deserve any money if they want it? The cash shop rewards their content and keeps it free for everyone else, including cash shop buyers. You don't like the content? You don't like the bugs? You don't think they deserve the money? Clue: Don't pay. Better suggestion: Stop Playing. Novel idea, right?
As for those whining about "unfair advantages," let's look at game structure for one quick sec:
MMO & PVP - In Territory Wars, who got EXP from oracles or quests or bribing people doesn't matter, it's about teamwork and manpower and blah blah blah. In plain ol' fashioned good times PKing, what matters is how you use your character. You don't even KNOW if the other player used oracles, and if you're going to **** about that, you're just being an EXTREMELY POOR SPORT. If you're superior, you will win. If you fail, suck it up already! And if you're so whiny, get OFF the PVP servers!
RPG - Guess what? This is a big and exciting newsflash, and I'm sure nobody's ever thought of it before. The only person who affects your progress in the game is YOU. These are personal quests! Grinding! How does whatever xFoxyFoxFox_2009x might be doing with her money in Archosaur affect your kill count in City of Plume? Squads with people who know what they're doing, or have "cheated" their way up will only benefit your kill count! Doing your FB or BH or TT adventures in a squad is only affected by the teamwork of the group!
So please, everyone, GET OVER IT.
PERFECT WORLD INTERNATIONAL IS A FREE GAME!
Free! You don't have to pay a CENT to play this game! And I think it's pretty dang fantastic for a free game. The quests, the customization, the graphics. You're getting this for FREE, guys!
Cash shop? Well, obviously they're in it for the money! And can you honestly say that the people who have done such an amazing job don't deserve any money if they want it? The cash shop rewards their content and keeps it free for everyone else, including cash shop buyers. You don't like the content? You don't like the bugs? You don't think they deserve the money? Clue: Don't pay. Better suggestion: Stop Playing. Novel idea, right?
As for those whining about "unfair advantages," let's look at game structure for one quick sec:
MMO & PVP - In Territory Wars, who got EXP from oracles or quests or bribing people doesn't matter, it's about teamwork and manpower and blah blah blah. In plain ol' fashioned good times PKing, what matters is how you use your character. You don't even KNOW if the other player used oracles, and if you're going to **** about that, you're just being an EXTREMELY POOR SPORT. If you're superior, you will win. If you fail, suck it up already! And if you're so whiny, get OFF the PVP servers!
RPG - Guess what? This is a big and exciting newsflash, and I'm sure nobody's ever thought of it before. The only person who affects your progress in the game is YOU. These are personal quests! Grinding! How does whatever xFoxyFoxFox_2009x might be doing with her money in Archosaur affect your kill count in City of Plume? Squads with people who know what they're doing, or have "cheated" their way up will only benefit your kill count! Doing your FB or BH or TT adventures in a squad is only affected by the teamwork of the group!
So please, everyone, GET OVER IT.
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its true PWE needs money but they didnt seem to have trouble with that before the packs and oracles
you are lvl 30 we can speak about this again when you are lvl 70 and got some real experience unless you oracle your way there ofc cause you dont know how it is in mid or high lvls
the QQ is a bit anoying and unnececarry but it wont is disapearits impossible to always do the right thing we all make mistakes i am not different from that
just try to be a good person
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*applause* you needed to get that of your chest eh? Well personally, I think you're right with everything you said b:victory .
PWI released a new expansion and everyone's just whining.
'It's all about cash shop items! Without it you can't do anything!' eh... what? There are lots of 100+ characters who didn't buy ANYTHING with real money. There's this really nifty option that lets you buy Gold INGAME.
And how else do they get money to keep up the game. Running a game isn't cheap you know.0 -
Wasn't she atleast on the pill?
Edit: **** wrong message board.
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Barbariankev - Heavens Tear wrote: »you are lvl 30 we can speak about this again when you are lvl 70 and got some real experience unless you oracle your way there ofc cause you dont know how it is in mid or high lvls
Guess what? Games aren't "hard work". If it's "hard work", you're doing it wrong.
I'm playing to have fun, not to kick anyone's **** or be the best or anything like that. And I'm sure that I'll still be having fun up into the 70s, and playing my quests, and killing my beasties, and not spending a cent on the cash shop, and that I still won't see the point in all this whining.
Unless you have an argument other than "you're stupid," STFU. You're not proving anything wrong or right here.0 -
Did someone call for a Troll? If so I haz arrived!
I actually agree with the OP. The game is a free to play game where everything that can be purchased in the cash shop by players, can be purchased in game by players who don't choose to use the cash shop.
If you are upset that those with deeper pockets than you can afford the things you want, and you can't, sorry, but that is very much like real life. Your gonna have to.... yes... here it comes....
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It is natural to dislike seeing someone get something easily which you worked hard to get.
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Off the topic of kev's post (offensive pre-edit), I just never have understood people who cry over something that can be easily fixed. IE realizing that it doesn't matter, or avoiding the situation entirely. If you don't like game money or game politics or other players, don't play the game. Don't socialize. Don't PVP. It's simple.
Otherwise, realize that not everything in life is going to be fair.
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Free to Play. Pay to win.
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Unless you have a higher level alt that wasnt oracled there (ie, you were here before that Jolly Jones event that started everything. The JJ that made gold prices 200k+) you dont really know how hard it is now compared to "the old days".
I cant imagine being a cleric BBing in every single TT/BH run without charging zen now.
And at level 30 I didnt even know you could buy gold with game coins, at your level you dont rely on zen at all[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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Certain aspects of the CS don't bug me, like Mounts of both types, Dragon orbs, mats, pets(by that I mean all class; sorry I forget about venos.), that sort of stuff. They make the game more fun, give an edge, but you aren't being given something that should have been worked for by actually playing the game. I pity those who don't understand what I mean by that.
As far as spending goes, heck, it's cheaper to buy gold, sell it in AH, and spend the coin. In game coin is highly useful. o_O
I guess I don't give a rat's butt what a heavy duty cash shopper does; if they want to buy weapons, armors, gamble for stuff, insta-win and take all the fun out of the game for themselves, that's ok, just means they'll be out a few thousand dollars supporting the game, but will also be bored stiff real soon and leave. Unless they PK; but PK appears to be getting harder in the way of who/where/when you can kill unless the people who visit the forums are just extremely outgoing and pissy about it; that's likely. A goodly portion of regulars here are only here to pet their ego in various ways. I frequent this place, so I'm not excluded there.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »Free to Play. Pay to win.
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Unless you have a higher level alt that wasnt oracled there (ie, you were here before that Jolly Jones event that started everything. The JJ that made gold prices 200k+) you dont really know how hard it is now compared to "the old days".
I cant imagine being a cleric BBing in every single TT/BH run without charging zen now.
And at level 30 I didnt even know you could buy gold with game coins, at your level you dont rely on zen at all
This. At the time of the JJ event, my highest level char was ~35. I knew you could buy gold with ingame coin, I just didn't know how. I wish I did, 'cause, before then was the cheapest those items will ever be. Now the only way you can really 'get ahead' is with insane amounts of farming or charging zen (or leaving catshop on 75% of the time, as WarrenWolfy and a few others have proven).
In PvP and TW the amount of money you spent on this game DOES matter. Someone who spent high amounts of money on this game-- got the good gear, the refines, the weapons-- is gonna squish a free player 4/5 times. No matter the skill level. It's like a level 60 trying to kill a level 80.
In PvE... the amount you spent doesn't have as much of a dramatic impact as in PvP, but, it still matters. How many squads do you think will choose the charmed cleric over the uncharmed? And a higher level cleric can run through a 1.5 mil charm in a few days... where's their funds to get a new one coming from?
As for oracles... you know the new server? Yeah. People love new servers because it gives them a chance to be a factor, TW without being squished by high levels, all that. On the leaderboards I see some people jump 7+ levels a day. Probably oracles. Is it fair that the new server is going to be dominated by higher levels in a few weeks? Makes TW a little dull, because their faction will cover the map in no time. And it's a little unfair to those that rerolled because they were just looking for some equality in level but-- oracles unbalanced it again.
Just realized I was on my alt on Raging Tide. xD That wasn't a QQ segment. I rerolled for maybe a challenge. Realized by now I'm not gonna get it. >> Just playing now because I'm finally higher level than a friend on that server. xD0 -
You can't imagine being a cleric doing BB without charging zen because you obviously aren't a cleric. Level 70+ normal pots, which you get from grinding and can also buy with, are more than sufficient enough to hold BB, and a cleric who is in the slightest bit economical with their MP can do fine with 'em in just about every situation. Good news is, there is still an enormous cache of sesame and herb yuanxiao's (for those like me who don't care for MP charms), which are still quite easy to get, and without a doubt there is and will be more packs/events that allow players to get far more, and with coins, if they go that way. Certainly, people who wanna spend the most will get things sooner and will get things easier -- that's the nature of impatience, and there's a pretty good chance they get bored faster than those who simply enjoy the game and take their time. So what? You encounter this in EVERY F2P game.StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »Free to Play. Pay to win.
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Unless you have a higher level alt that wasnt oracled there (ie, you were here before that Jolly Jones event that started everything. The JJ that made gold prices 200k+) you dont really know how hard it is now compared to "the old days".
I cant imagine being a cleric BBing in every single TT/BH run without charging zen now.
And at level 30 I didnt even know you could buy gold with game coins, at your level you dont rely on zen at all
Your argument and the same perpetuated argument that is made just like yours, ad nauseam, is easily summed up by the good ol' days nostalgia-like nonsense. If things were so great before the JJ event, which was several months ago, why didn't you quit any time recently? If this game is supposedly no longer fun, why do people still play and post on the forums about it? The game is still free, people can still relentlessly grind and do things the "hard way" you emphasize (I constantly run into them), they can even do a ton of TT/coin runs and buy oracles with the coin they make, or they can spend their real money (or their parents/husbands money) and help keep the game free. What you're entirely blind to is that it's blatant that you believe that people need to play and act and see the game in the same fashion you do. It's very akin to the nostalgia nuts who live in some fantasy-like 60s/70s/80s era, and are unable to cope like normal people with changes that happen to everyone, and suggest things need to be more like they were in that era. Buck up champ. If the game is that bad, find another one. If it isn't, and time is money, it might be a little more productive to actually play and earn that coin "the hard way".0 -
You may be right about PVP, and there is a population who wanna be the best cash shoppers, and they perhaps will realize how trivial this is. However, these idiots keep the game free. There is no explicit right for everyone to be able to have an equal chance at winning in PVP or TW, or else game mechanics would have done something to even the playing field out more. It's clear those who work the hardest and/or pay the most will have an advantage. Maybe someone can explain, with some sensibility, why this shouldn't be the case. Why should people who work the hardest and/or pay the most into their character have to be equal to others when the effort or money put into it is not equal? There's an exceptionally gross statement of entitlement in the assertions put forth by yourself and similar.IDaun - Raging Tide wrote: »This. At the time of the JJ event, my highest level char was ~35. I knew you could buy gold with ingame coin, I just didn't know how. I wish I did, 'cause, before then was the cheapest those items will ever be. Now the only way you can really 'get ahead' is with insane amounts of farming or charging zen (or leaving catshop on 75% of the time, as WarrenWolfy and a few others have proven).
In PvP and TW the amount of money you spent on this game DOES matter. Someone who spent high amounts of money on this game-- got the good gear, the refines, the weapons-- is gonna squish a free player 4/5 times. No matter the skill level. It's like a level 60 trying to kill a level 80.
In PvE... the amount you spent doesn't have as much of a dramatic impact as in PvP, but, it still matters. How many squads do you think will choose the charmed cleric over the uncharmed? And a higher level cleric can run through a 1.5 mil charm in a few days... where's their funds to get a new one coming from?
As for oracles... you know the new server? Yeah. People love new servers because it gives them a chance to be a factor, TW without being squished by high levels, all that. On the leaderboards I see some people jump 7+ levels a day. Probably oracles. Is it fair that the new server is going to be dominated by higher levels in a few weeks? Makes TW a little dull, because their faction will cover the map in no time. And it's a little unfair to those that rerolled because they were just looking for some equality in level but-- oracles unbalanced it again.
Just realized I was on my alt on Raging Tide. xD That wasn't a QQ segment. I rerolled for maybe a challenge. Realized by now I'm not gonna get it. >> Just playing now because I'm finally higher level than a friend on that server. xD0 -
Free to play? I think not. Well I suppose it depends on how you view things. When we consider the cost of the computer which is the necessary console you need to play this game in the first place - as well as the cost of the internet, unless you're nabbing free net.
So actually, if you want to get all technical about it, no this game is not, and never was, free to play. Go take your technicality elsewhere because we will shove it right back in your face, thank you very much.
This said, you don't have to pay to win to play PW. And if you think that you need to GTFO right now.
I was a charm ho since level 30 on this archer. That was by choice. I didn't spend a dime on zen. Not until level 75. And I didn't spend it on oracles or whatever else have you. I spent it to resell it.
I then bought some anniversary packs and made a nice little profit from those.
Recently, I sold more gold because I was at 200 coins in game after some very bad decisions and loss of luck when it came to trying to 'gamble' in the market as it were. But that was my own fault - and I easily made the money back.
What has this money bought me? Simple. Three pieces of gold FC equipment, charms and then... mounts. Fashion. Non-essential stuff that I bought on impulse because sadly I am addicted to the eye candy.
Do I need the FC bow, or belt, or ring? Hell no. Do I need the charms? Hell no. I just get them because I want them. I get them because I can.
The people who may one day buy them off me will also buy them because they can just like you play the game for free because you can.
We got that through to you yet?
This game doesn't cost a cent unless you feel it has to.
This game doesn't require you to play to win.
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JanusZeal - Heavens Tear wrote: »You may be right about PVP, and there is a population who wanna be the best cash shoppers, and they perhaps will realize how trivial this is. However, these idiots keep the game free. There is no explicit right for everyone to be able to have an equal chance at winning in PVP or TW, or else game mechanics would have done something to even the playing field out more. It's clear those who work the hardest and/or pay the most will have an advantage. Maybe someone can explain, with some sensibility, why this shouldn't be the case. Why should people who work the hardest and/or pay the most into their character have to be equal to others when the effort or money put into it is not equal? There's an exceptionally gross statement of entitlement in the assertions put forth by yourself and similar.
You either have to spend hours a day grinding/farming, charge zen, or spend all of your time in cat shop to get ahead. You don't see anything wrong with that? What happened to actually playing the game to get ahead? You can't just 'play' anymore and get ahead, unless you get really lucky. And if you don't have a lot of time for this game, well... forget ever getting ahead unless you charge zen.
You should be able to at least support yourself just playing (and be able to be accepted into all parts of the game and not /completely/ fail at it... you don't have to be the best, but, you shouldn't be obliterated or turned down). You can't anymore. What's the point of a game when you have to treat it like a job?
Hell, the price of charms is counterproductive to helping people. I've had a barb refuse to tank Jewels (with 3 people in a squad with him that needed Jewels) because charm prices were so high.
I don't think my chars 'deserve' anything. I just wish it was a little bit fairer to newbies or people without a lot of time. My main (rerolled, retired my old char) is level 58. I have loads of time to put into this game. I'm not getting ahead, but, I know I can't. Horrible money management. Ingame and IRL. Gotta stop buying things to give away to people. >>'''
Yeah, maybe it doesn't make sense to you, but, I just think there's something wrong when your three choices are 'CS', 'farm constantly', or 'cat shop'.0 -
StormHydra - Sanctuary wrote: »Free to Play. Pay to win.
Lol, funny thing about this statement is what are you actually winning?
A... congrats on lving?
A... rank on the highscore board?
A... cool weapon that will go out of style next patch/expansion?
A... upgrade in armor that will be obsolete once you're higher lv?
Sorry guys, no YOU WIN's in MMOs. No GameOver's or You Lose's eitherb:bye
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If your goals are to compete with others, to try to be better than, stronger than, faster than, higher level than... richer than.. then you have set yourself up for failure and disappointment.
If your goals on the other hand are to have fun, relax, bs with friends, and just take things as they come, then you will always be ahead of anyone who has the mindset that you MUST be better etc. because they have already missed the entire point of the game.... which is to have fun, and enjoy yourself.
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what does this irrelevant technicality have to do with anything? the computer, and your internet service are NOT the game, therefore the game is not costing anyone any $.Free to play? I think not. Well I suppose it depends on how you view things. When we consider the cost of the computer which is the necessary console you need to play this game in the first place - as well as the cost of the internet, unless you're nabbing free net.
So actually, if you want to get all technical about it, no this game is not, and never was, free to play. Go take your technicality elsewhere because we will shove it right back in your face, thank you very much.
people whine because they believe their 'opinion matters,' and that everyone has to hear it. its a pseudojustification to their empty, useless selves to validate some little sense of self worth. their inherit jealousy of 'i cant have this, but he can, therefore its unfair.' attitudes are absolute BS.
these people need to get off their soap boxes, and lose their stupid belief that people actually wanna hear their opinion.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
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WaffleChan - Sanctuary wrote: »what does this irrelevant technicality have to do with anything? the computer, and your internet service are NOT the game, therefore the game is not costing anyone any $..
You seem to misunderstand the basic fact.
If you did not have a computer, then you would not be able to play this game. So you see, being as technical as people seem to get on this issue, this game does cost you. Indirectly, yes, but it is a cost all the same. If you did not pay for your computer and the internet, then you would not be able to play this game. The cost is indirect, perhaps, and not controlled by PWE itself, but it is game related nonetheless. ;D
It was merely pointing out that if people are going to be so incredibly technical about the costs of this game, then they should consider all aspects before saying "this game is free" or "you have to pay to do anything on this game".[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Airyll - Dreamweaver wrote: »You seem to misunderstand the basic fact.
If you did not have a computer, then you would not be able to play this game. So you see, being as technical as people seem to get on this issue, this game does cost you. Indirectly, yes, but it is a cost all the same. If you did not pay for your computer and the internet, then you would not be able to play this game. The cost is indirect, perhaps, and not controlled by PWE itself, but it is game related nonetheless. ;D
It was merely pointing out that if people are going to be so incredibly technical about the costs of this game, then they should consider all aspects before saying "this game is free" or "you have to pay to do anything on this game".
Way too technical... but what if the computer you got free, and you're using free internet (almost every business where I live offers free internet now... and the library offers it, as well)? Someone had to pay for the computer and the internet, yes, but, if It was free for you... and the internet was free for you...
Free to play.
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You choose to pay whatever you want, or nothing at all. How many other quality mmo's let you do that? For me, after my first three months of playing for free, I started to spend 10$ a month in zen, it was still less expensive than the usual subscription fees. I haven't purchased zen now in the last two months, and wont need to I think for the duration of my time on game. Could I have made it to my level without the zen, YES. I honestly made more money from farming than cash-shopping even then, so I am going the free route now.0
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Wow killing mobs and doing kill X of Y quest are so fantastic right? gtfoMillenie - Dreamweaver wrote: »Guess what? Games aren't "hard work". If it's "hard work", you're doing it wrong.
I'm playing to have fun, not to kick anyone's **** or be the best or anything like that. And I'm sure that I'll still be having fun up into the 70s, and playing my quests, and killing my beasties, and not spending a cent on the cash shop, and that I still won't see the point in all this whining.
Unless you have an argument other than "you're stupid," STFU. You're not proving anything wrong or right here.0 -
Ever heard of apothecary? Economic sense? TT? Oh wait, you expect a level 50 to make a ****-ton of millions? No wonder you're stuck on the forums complaining.IDaun - Raging Tide wrote: »You either have to spend hours a day grinding/farming, charge zen, or spend all of your time in cat shop to get ahead. You don't see anything wrong with that? What happened to actually playing the game to get ahead? You can't just 'play' anymore and get ahead, unless you get really lucky. And if you don't have a lot of time for this game, well... forget ever getting ahead unless you charge zen.
Did you just start playing RPGs? They are just about always grind fests. Ever play FF7? FF8? Did you ever manage to beat the hardest Weapons in the game without grinding your levels? There's no game genie codes here. All I see here is should this, shouldn't that. How about a little dose of practicality?You should be able to at least support yourself just playing (and be able to be accepted into all parts of the game and not /completely/ fail at it... you don't have to be the best, but, you shouldn't be obliterated or turned down). You can't anymore. What's the point of a game when you have to treat it like a job?
Obviously that's a fail barb. No barb with even half-sense would require a charm to tank Jewels. In fact, a charm would not even come close to saving most barbs against Jewels (under level 90) in lieu of a cleric who doesn't know how to heal and purify. Furthermore, the cleric (or clerics) is all that's needed, not a charm. 99% of the game does not require a charm. But, again, let's not thinking sensibly here. Let's take follow the idiot barb and use some extreme case as an example of status quo.Hell, the price of charms is counterproductive to helping people. I've had a barb refuse to tank Jewels (with 3 people in a squad with him that needed Jewels) because charm prices were so high.
It isn't fair to newbies in the sense you want it to be, and it shouldn't be. Guess what? Level < 20 DQ doesn't give you as much as level > 91 DQ. Bet you would complain about this too. It's as obvious as day you feel everyone is entitled to ****, especially the people who won't put in the work or money for it. Why not just come out with it and suggest that everyone should get lunar weapons, a scroll of tome, wings of cloudcharger, a hercules, and so on?I don't think my chars 'deserve' anything. I just wish it was a little bit fairer to newbies or people without a lot of time. My main (rerolled, retired my old char) is level 58. I have loads of time to put into this game. I'm not getting ahead, but, I know I can't. Horrible money management. Ingame and IRL. Gotta stop buying things to give away to people. >>'''
Fact: It's already fair. If you work your **** off, you can get these things. Those high end gear and super stats are not easy to achieve, so you pay for it either in a ****-ton of effort, or a ****-ton of money. The fact that you believe it should be more "fair", i.e. significantly easier to get these things shows your belief of entitlement regardless of your denial of it.
Maybe this game isn't for you, and you have far to go to prove, now, that you have even the slightest bit of intelligence surrounding this game. Everyone has to farm, or catshop, at very least. Why should you be able to avoid it when these things make the most money? You never even mentioned what you expect. What DO you expect? To just run around chatting and be able to get things just for doing that? Kill a mob one time for a mold? Kill a mob one time for every single mat you'd need for a TT weapon? Get a gold frost weapon on your first FF run? Humor me. I'd like to see your vision of how people should acquire these things and compare it to the current way things are.Yeah, maybe it doesn't make sense to you, but, I just think there's something wrong when your three choices are 'CS', 'farm constantly', or 'cat shop'.0 -
This posts remindes me, when my assassin levelled to lv10.
Pop-up window: You reached lv10!! Press alt+O to use ingame boutique,....
Basicly this game is free, don't level up more, and remain free. Don't reach lv50, and don't obtain perfect hammer, and with basic pots, "maybe" you have the chance, to survive in late dungeons...0 -
Millenie - Dreamweaver wrote: »I know that anyone who doesn't want to listen won't listen, but I think we need a quick reality check here.
PERFECT WORLD INTERNATIONAL IS A FREE GAME!
Free! You don't have to pay a CENT to play this game! And I think it's pretty dang fantastic for a free game. The quests, the customization, the graphics. You're getting this for FREE, guys!
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Nothing in the world is free. someone pays for everything. Some may play the game for free including myself. Everyone pays to play in some way, whether its directly to the game via cash shop and gold or by paying for your internet service. Your still paying to play in some form. I have yet to spend real money on any game but I wont brag about it either because I understand that cashshoppers support the game which makes it free for me to play. I greatly appreciate those who do contribute to the on going support and upkeep of such an awesome game. But its still not free by a long shot.
edit- costs everyone time. I wouldnt say that my time is worthless at all either so yeah it does cost something. Maybe not money but money isnt everything either.0 -
IDaun - Raging Tide wrote: »You either have to spend hours a day grinding/farming, charge zen, or spend all of your time in cat shop to get ahead. You don't see anything wrong with that?
I just don't get it...
People seem to throw alot of hate at the cash shopping folks who buy oracles and other items to move themselves along at a rate they enjoy.... the big argument seems to be they are "cheating" and not doing it "the right way".... or most can't even say it in that civil a manner and throw out all kinds of horrible hate...
Then these same complaining people (like above quote) turn around and cry that they need to spend countless hours grinding to try and get ahed so for them its all too unfair.... but WTF??? Isn't said grinding and questing exactly what they mean by playing "the right way"???
How can they cry and complain about how people should not be able to lvl as fast as they want on one hand, then cry and moan about how long it is taking themselves to lvl on the other?
Makes their entire argument against the cs folks seem like simple petty jealousy in the end.[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]0 -
Boozin - Sanctuary wrote: »I just don't get it...
People seem to throw alot of hate at the cash shopping folks who buy oracles and other items to move themselves along at a rate they enjoy....
I have no problem with cash shoppers who buy oracles. In my oppinion it takes no skill to go from lv1 to 80 in a week from oracles. Is it truly wrong to lvl from them?...NO its not because people can spend their time and money how the choose to. I personally dont want to squad with anyone who power-levelled without learning their class because its bad for the rest of the squad. Not saying that all oracle users are like that either. I have friends who played through the game and learned, then make an alt char and power level it. If you know your class then fine. If you dont then oracles arent a good source for learning. I would think skill is more important than level in the long run because being high level doesnt automatically make you god status.
(i.e Ive stolen aggro from a 94barb in a TT run. Thats something that I shouldnt have been able to do at lv74 if the barb knew what he was doing. Turns out it was an oracle noob though lol.)
edit- Also you have to consider that alot of content in pwi is squad based where everyone in the squad is expected to know their role and duties to benefit that squad the most.0 -
its an issue of balance in game between free and cash shoppers. PW has crossed that thin line and made the game in favor of cash shoppers by releasing ridiculous packs that only require cash to obtain, not actual playing of the game.
Some games have not crossed that line, some games have. Pw did and can never return back to how it was. That leaves some of the community bitter towards management.
Its more of a PVP complaint i beleive. I dont think anyone could give a **** about how fast their mobs die.Q - How to win on Perfect World?
A - Throw money at it.0 -
Bartack - Heavens Tear wrote: »You choose to pay whatever you want, or nothing at all. How many other quality mmo's let you do that?
all mmo's that dont require a subscription.. which is a very very very long list of games.Q - How to win on Perfect World?
A - Throw money at it.0
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