Can you t target assassins in stealth?

Specialmats - Heavens Tear
Specialmats - Heavens Tear Posts: 140 Arc User
edited December 2009 in General Discussion
just curious.
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  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I'd like an answer to this to.

    b:sin
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    4 minute bump?
    bad konariraiden bad~
    um yes only if you out level them by X amount.
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  • Morty - Raging Tide
    Morty - Raging Tide Posts: 337 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Obviously not, unless there in your squad.
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  • Kawakami - Dreamweaver
    Kawakami - Dreamweaver Posts: 276 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Well, go to a remote place, let them go invisible and press T and click their name.
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    The stealth skills description clearly states that you are invisible to anyone/anything who is lower in awareness than you are.

    So if your a 6x and i'm a 2x your going to be able to see me. if i'm a 6x and your a 5x, your not going to be able to see me if my spiritual awareness is higher than yours.

    ~Saitada
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    what about me noob power?
    b:sin
    me can even sense GM presence.
    b:thanks
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    what about me noob power?
    b:sin
    me can even sense GM presence.
    b:thanks

    nope, noob power is voided by stealth.b:thanks

    ~S
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Well, I'm sure the OP was trying to see if there was a way "around" the Assassin's stealth skill, by using the T Shortcut Key to bring up the assassin's name, where you would click it, then target the Stealth Assassin, no matter what you level is.
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »
    nope, noob power is voided by stealth.b:thanks

    ~S

    well...me can't really see the invisible targets....me can just see what the target sees and then deduce where they be...like right now...
    me sense some sort of veno GM flying past me about 25 meters away.
    b:puzzled
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well, I'm sure the OP was trying to see if there was a way "around" the Assassin's stealth skill, by using the T Shortcut Key to bring up the assassin's name, where you would click it, then target the Stealth Assassin, no matter what you level is.

    hmm never thought of that bypass. If T brings up all nearer players so they can be targetted then it effectively wipes out an assassins stealth ability.

    ~S
  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Confirmed. When in Stealth mode, if someone uses T and clicks the stealthed persons name, you can target them.

    ~S
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Saitada - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Confirmed. When in Stealth mode, if someone uses T and clicks the stealthed persons name, you can target them.

    ~S

    still...we can see their name and...obviously the green dot you can't target be an assassin.
    b:chuckle
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  • Saitada - Sanctuary
    Saitada - Sanctuary Posts: 3,220 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »
    still...we can see their name and...obviously the green dot you can't target be an assassin.
    b:chuckle

    Your hair needs combed. It's a mess.

    ~S
  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    b:puzzled wha?
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
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    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
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  • drmarley
    drmarley Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    You can - I targeted and killed a sin in stealth mode yesterday.

    Just duel one and try it. It only works on mobs.
  • Konariraiden - Heavens Tear
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear Posts: 6,505 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Well...so much for assassin's being the ninja's that they wanted to be, hm? Anybody's who's attentive enough to check their T-Screen has the ability to see any and all would-be assassin's...
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Konariraiden - Heavens Tear wrote: »
    Well...so much for assassin's being the ninja's that they wanted to be, hm? Anybody's who's attentive enough to check their T-Screen has the ability to see any and all would-be assassin's...

    ^(o.o)'
    that be like 100% of the competent people in the PvP servers.
    b:chuckle
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
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    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I think I recently saw a stealth sin run by today. He was just abit transparent, and I could simply click him to target. (not sure if that's what stealth does, but I asumed he was in stealth)
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  • MagicHamsta - Lost City
    MagicHamsta - Lost City Posts: 10,466 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    can someone who be teh same or lower level then an assassin test it out please?
    b:beg
    darthpanda16: Firefox crashed on me. Aryannamage: I don't think I am a GM that would be new.
    Hawk:Do this. closing thread
    frankieraye: I'll see if we can replace the woman with a stick figure and the tiger fangs with marshmallows.//Issues like these need to get escalated quickly to minimize the damage.
    Kantorek: Yeah.. you should try it. It's awesome.
    Sihndra: Nope- not currently possible under any circumstances. Sorry.
    LokisDottir: I mean...not haunting the forums, nope nope..
    Konariraiden: You don't know what you are up against. You will lose.
    Waiting for...Hamster Packs!
    58% chance to get tokens
    41% chance to get an all class pet hamster....but they has already been freed by the magic hamster.
    1% chance to get ban hamstered with the message "Hamsters United!"
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  • Crowley - Dreamweaver
    Crowley - Dreamweaver Posts: 2 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Pretty sure it works on players, saw a sin sneak up on someone and kill them earlier
  • _MonoxidE_ - Sanctuary
    _MonoxidE_ - Sanctuary Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    if your awareness level is higher than a sins then yes you can see and target them also. Sins are not the solo class people thought they would be. they are not the op class people thought either. their skills are all dagger dependent. daggers damage is comparable to that of fists. there are tt60 daggers but no tt70-80 at all. gonna take alot of skill to truly be a successful sin.
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    O.O stealth does work!!!
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • angellicdeity
    angellicdeity Posts: 641 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I think......





    Its funny and ironic............









    How when everyone said I knew nothing about tideborns a week ago........










    Are now discovering truth into what I said about the inability to fully stealth. I said squad menu will show your presence. Your name isn't hidden (missed that) and genies are a no go either. I think people need to do a little less reading into Korrens stuff when he posts it.
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Your name isn't shown... the menu doens't show you.... and you can fully stealth to those who are lower-leveled than you... unless you level the cat-like thread skill or w/e...
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • Nukesrus - Harshlands
    Nukesrus - Harshlands Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    I can confirm that stealth does in fact hide the assassin from the T key.


    EDIT: This is from my same levelled psychic.

    At the same level, sins are invisible to normal players. Only higher levels can target them. And yes, when they are your level or higher they are completely invisible.


    Noob ganking will be incessant as 'sins.
  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Can someone test to see if the Awareness level the skill speaks of is in fact Spiritual Cultivation? Because.... i think it has to do with the two skills sharp observer and cat-like strings...... not just cultivation =P
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • Sirrobert - Dreamweaver
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver Posts: 3,395 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Mavado - Harshlands wrote: »
    Can someone test to see if the Awareness level the skill speaks of is in fact Spiritual Cultivation? Because.... i think it has to do with the two skills sharp observer and cat-like strings...... not just cultivation =P

    Those 2 skils only increase the sin's awerenes. Other classes need awerenes to you know.

    I actually think it's more lvl than culti lvl. As you only get a new culti lvl every 10lvls
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  • Mavado - Harshlands
    Mavado - Harshlands Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Sirrobert - Dreamweaver wrote: »
    Those 2 skils only increase the sin's awerenes. Other classes need awerenes to you know.

    I actually think it's more lvl than culti lvl. As you only get a new culti lvl every 10lvls

    kk, that's what i was thinking... it's just that from what i've heard people assume it has something more to do with cult level for some reason =P
    >_< I'm a wizard in disguise... you know like the old cartoon... except with less robots and more fire/ice/rocks....
  • Athena - Raging Tide
    Athena - Raging Tide Posts: 98 Arc User
    edited December 2009
    Awareness and Stealth levels are equivalent to your character's level. But assassins have skills that increase these levels.
    To sum it up, if you have your stealth level maxed, only players that are 20 levels higher can see you if you go stealth.
    Unless the other player happens to be a sin who has maxed their awareness level, then they can see assassins in stealth mode 20 levels higher than them... unless said assassin has maxed cat-like tread
    It's pretty simple, I just can't explain it like so. lol

    Well I guess all you really need to know is that base awareness/stealth levels are your character's level. Anyone should be able to figure it out from there :P

    Same goes for mobs. A mob's awareness level is equal to its level. So an assassin can't sneak past a higher level mob unless he/she has leveled up cat-like tread.

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