Am I missing something?

Organism - Lost City · December 2009

Everyone's talking about how great this class is and how great white voodoo + soulvengeance is and all that, but I don't get it. I've got weapon current for my level and armor current for my level, but I still feel like I'm doing something wrong. When I use white voodoo + soul vengeance the mobs still do ~70 dmg on me, killing me pretty fast. However, when I use black voodoo and just attack, mobs die in about 4 hits. I still feel like 4 hits is weak though, I thought we were supposed to be doing massive dmg?

Plus I've dueled a few other people, and lost EVERY duel. I vs. an assasin same lvl as me, used white voodoo and soul vengeance..attacked her and did barely any damage, she killed me in 2 hits. I used black voodoo + sould vengeance, she killed me in 1. How exactly is this class going to compare with other classes if they die in one hit? Thats crazy....crazy bad!

Could someone tell me what I'm doing wrong..?

I've updated every skill to my lvl, I've got the armor for my lvl, I've got the wep for my lvl, but still die like nothing. If a mob gets too close I die in like 5 hits cuz I've only got 500 hp and they hit ~120 per shot if I've got black voodoo on. ~70 with white voodoo. I don't really see how white voodoo is that great if they still hit that high though..It's all confusing me how everyone is saying the skills are awesome when Im looking at them thinking wtf is this.

Plus with white voodoo + soul vengeance it takes like 10 hits to kill a mob, 4 with black voodoo.

CONFUSING

Organism - Lost City · December 2009

Lol, uhh.. some reason my icon still shows up as a bm? This is my lvl 20 psychics name now b:angry

MagicHamsta - Lost City · December 2009

Organism - Lost City wrote: »

Lol, uhh.. some reason my icon still shows up as a bm? This is my lvl 20 psychics name now b:angry

grats you be know forever stuck in teh forums as a level 50 bm....
b:chuckle
it be a glitchy

as for "massive damage".....you want a wizard.
XD
you do know psychics be more of a support class....from teh looks of their moves.
b:sweat
but then again PWI's support classes be pretty powerful. *looks at clerics*

Organism - Lost City · December 2009

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

grats you be know forever stuck in teh forums as a level 50 bm....
b:chuckle
it be a glitchy

as for "massive damage".....you want a wizard.
XD
you do know psychics be more of a support class....from teh looks of their moves.
b:sweat
but then again PWI's support classes be pretty powerful. *looks at clerics*

I don't do support...

(Rerolls sin)

NO NOT YET!

I wanna figure this out

Lacrimarine - Raging Tide · December 2009

In earlier levels, I did have the same case like you. However, since I grabbed my latest earth skill that knocks enemy back for 12.6m, I barely got hit though unless it's lagging and the mob will hit me for like... 2 hits before it goes down.

Combo : Aqua Impact > Spirit Blast > Landslide > Aqua Impact/Spirit Blast

Try avoid using same/weaker element when facing mobs with certain elements.
So, when facing Wood ones, change Spirit Blast to Torrent instead

Rajani - Lost City · December 2009

Psychics are like another version of a wizard I noticed, if you put your attribute points right, you'll be golden. I've been doing 1 vit 4 magic one level, and then 1 str 4 magic the next and I havn't run into any problems at all so far. Stick with the psychic if you want to pvp later on, we were made for it. lvl 34 skill that reduces hp recovery potions effects, legnthens cooldown on guardian charms, lvl 59 skill reflects status ailments and damage? Not to mention the fact that our spells are fast casting AND heavy hitting. We will be a force to be reconed with once we reach a high enough level.

ravenlis · December 2009

Organism - Lost City wrote: »

Lol, uhh.. some reason my icon still shows up as a bm? This is my lvl 20 psychics name now b:angry

Did you maybe make your Psy on a different server? Try switching your avatars around a few times to any other charas you might have made then switch to the Psy again.

Organism - Lost City · December 2009

Lacrimarine - Raging Tide wrote: »

In earlier levels, I did have the same case like you. However, since I grabbed my latest earth skill that knocks enemy back for 12.6m, I barely got hit though unless it's lagging and the mob will hit me for like... 2 hits before it goes down.

Combo : Aqua Impact > Spirit Blast > Landslide > Aqua Impact/Spirit Blast

Try avoid using same/weaker element when facing mobs with certain elements.
So, when facing Wood ones, change Spirit Blast to Torrent instead

Vs. Mobs I'm ok since getting landslide, but ty

! I'm talking more vs. other player, however, once 2 mob's get on us...b:avoid

Rajani - Lost City wrote: »

Psychics are like another version of a wizard I noticed, if you put your attribute points right, you'll be golden. I've been doing 1 vit 4 magic one level, and then 1 str 4 magic the next and I havn't run into any problems at all so far. Stick with the psychic if you want to pvp later on, we were made for it. lvl 34 skill that reduces hp recovery potions effects, legnthens cooldown on guardian charms, lvl 59 skill reflects status ailments and damage? Not to mention the fact that our spells are fast casting AND heavy hitting. We will be a force to be reconed with once we reach a high enough level.

Have you dueled any of the other classes yet though? Sins almost oneshot me, archers do heavy damage as well. Using white voodoo makes it so my spells only hit 200, which is **** damage any way you look at it, and barely amps up deffence, 'cuz I still die in 2 shots. Black voodoo makes the hits almost 300, which is still **** because I now die in 1 shot... I don't see how leveling up higher will make us that much better if our hits do so little damage..

ravenlis wrote: »

Did you maybe make your Psy on a different server? Try switching your avatars around a few times to any other charas you might have made then switch to the Psy again.

My lvl 50 BM on LC was named Organism. I deleted him, 'cuz I loved the name and thought it would be perfect for a tideborn, but I guess forums are glitched and keep icons for a while

. I'll try switching them around and see if it works though, thank you for the advice b:pleased.

Nukesrus - Harshlands · December 2009

I am dissappointed in the psy. Sure, you can spam skills and win at PvE, but vs. people, psys jut won't be viable until much, much later. I already have an endgame class, though, that hits harder than the psy. So I see raising one as kind of pointless.

I just hope the sins don't suffer from the "archer complex" where they start sucking hard after level 90...

Zeilos - Lost City · December 2009

how bout u get to 60 at least before u judge if we are viable in pvp >_>

SMH@ assumptions like this

who knows maybe this class could solo barbs in pvp, who knows

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear · December 2009

just a matter of intelligent building. Coming from a bm to a psy, you'll need to adjust to the playstyle. However yes, much like wizards, the lower levels were horrid... In my 20s though it started becoming easier, much earlier than with my wiz.

MagicHamsta - Lost City · December 2009

DAM
79 TIDEBORN!
b:shocked

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear · December 2009

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

DAM
79 TIDEBORN!
b:shocked

Level faster hamsta, I'll be ahead of you soon... too bad I'm not on LC

MagicHamsta - Lost City · December 2009

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Level faster hamsta, I'll be ahead of you soon... too bad I'm not on LC

can't....
b:surrender
although if me did have a large supply of oracles me could go from 1-80 in about 2 days.
b:chuckle

well...tell me how higher level runs like BH/RB/FC/TT/ etc etc
go for you okies?
b:thanks
me are interested.
o.O

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear · December 2009

Stopping oracling when I ding again. but have a basic idea. Done BH and TT. Timing for interrupt macro is perfect for several bosses, pull aggro off a barb 17 levels higher than me (at 70), aoe setup for rebirth is straight up, possibly a little low range to the aoe... Guess I'll find out.

Amouriv - Dreamweaver · December 2009

You are not building your psychic right. I am pure mag with some really good armor and i have no problem taking out most sins. The only sin i cant beat is my friend and it comes pretty close at that(like one more tick of torrent wouldve killed him)

LOL @ 79 psychic *thinks about Specialmats*

Zeilos - Lost City · December 2009

Amouriv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You are not building your psychic right. I am pure mag with some really good armor and i have no problem taking out most sins. The only sin i cant beat is my friend and it comes pretty close at that(like one more tick of torrent wouldve killed him)

LOL @ 79 psychic *thinks about Specialmats*

1. how good could ur armor be at 2x -.-
2. most sins are still learning to play their class so thats not saying much

PS. srry to sound like im flaming alot but ppl need to stop judging the new classes pvp viability at 2x <_<

Rainesierr - Lost City · December 2009

Zeilos - Lost City wrote: »

1. how good could ur armor be at 2x -.-
2. most sins are still learning to play their class so thats not saying much

PS. srry to sound like im flaming alot but ppl need to stop judging the new classes pvp viability at 2x <_<

lol well if you look at the armor you get from quests vs just npc stuff the armor is actually pretty good xD as far as sins learning to play their class so are all psychics :P to the ps- i totally agree. anyone care to judge pvp of wiz from a 2x or 3x standpoint? there would be less wizards than there are already xD also i heard someone say pve only got better after lvl 20, wiz pve sucks till about lvl 40. soo.... just remember that low lvl psy i think is going to be like low lvl wiz. you will suck. at everything. whether or not psy is good endgame, i want to see what the 79 skills are first, and sage/demon list. then we'll see about psy pvp :P

EDIT: sry this post longer than intended xD

Organism - Lost City · December 2009

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

just a matter of intelligent building. Coming from a bm to a psy, you'll need to adjust to the playstyle. However yes, much like wizards, the lower levels were horrid... In my 20s though it started becoming easier, much earlier than with my wiz.

Sorry if I disregard anything you say. Someone who wastes however much money you've wasted on this game is not worth my time to listen to. Have a nice time on PW. b:pleased

Amouriv - Dreamweaver wrote: »

You are not building your psychic right. I am pure mag with some really good armor and i have no problem taking out most sins. The only sin i cant beat is my friend and it comes pretty close at that(like one more tick of torrent wouldve killed him)

LOL @ 79 psychic *thinks about Specialmats*

I'm doing 1 str 9 mag / 2 lvls..are you doing something other then that? What you said is pretty much my dilema, because I see other psy's same lvl as me 3 shotting mobs with black voodoo on but it takes me about 4 when I do it. Everyone else is saying white voodoo is so awesome, but to me it barely reduces damage. Several people have told me they beat sins and other classes, but I duel one and barely took any damage. They killed me while I was casting my first spell.. Also my friend told me she does about 1k dmg with her attacks on her sin, shes a lvl 22. I'm lvl 20 psy doing only 800's, so how does she do that much damage I have no clue..

Also, sadly, while specialmats disgusts me, I pked with him several times with his archer. I didn't know he had another acc. on another server though, lol. b:shocked

Rainesierr - Lost City wrote: »

lol well if you look at the armor you get from quests vs just npc stuff the armor is actually pretty good xD as far as sins learning to play their class so are all psychics :P to the ps- i totally agree. anyone care to judge pvp of wiz from a 2x or 3x standpoint? there would be less wizards than there are already xD also i heard someone say pve only got better after lvl 20, wiz pve sucks till about lvl 40. soo.... just remember that low lvl psy i think is going to be like low lvl wiz. you will suck. at everything. whether or not psy is good endgame, i want to see what the 79 skills are first, and sage/demon list. then we'll see about psy pvp :P

EDIT: sry this post longer than intended xD

Yes, I judged my wizard at that lvl. I could kill archers at that level (granted, I was LA wizard...) but with psy I feel like we don't do any damage. On mobs we do alright, but vs. other players, hitting a 300 with black voodoo is rediculous because of how much it lowers your deffence that it doesn't even matter what small amount of damage you do. You're now a oneshot rather then a twoshot with white voodoo...

I'll stick it out to 60, maybe even higher. Or maybe someone like Aneurysmal will grant us with his supreme knowledge of the class when they release 79 skills.

Really Aneur. I'm sorry to judge you, but if you find it reasonable to spend that much money on a game just to get a high lvl....I'm not going to start an Aneur hate thread. b:cute

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear · December 2009

Organism - Lost City wrote: »

Sorry if I disregard anything you say. Someone who wastes however much money you've wasted on this game is not worth my time to listen to. Have a nice time on PW. b:pleased

I'll stick it out to 60, maybe even higher. Or maybe someone like Aneurysmal will grant us with his supreme knowledge of the class when they release 79 skills.

Really Aneur. I'm sorry to judge you, but if you find it reasonable to spend that much money on a game just to get a high lvl....I'm not going to start an Aneur hate thread. b:cute

Not money, just time, too much time... way too much time... I learned the game through my first time leveling to 90, then did it again 3 more times, since then it's just learning the class/build, so no harm in skipping the little b/s.

Yllarius - Heavens Tear · December 2009

I don't know what your talking about. I two shot mobs my level with the level 22 mold sphere. If I crit it's hardly even that.

I havn't dueled much, but against a 30 BM, axe specced. Without Genies (As True Emptiness is ****ing ****) He kills me in 3 hits. I'd get him about half-dead before he killed me though.

As an archer player as well, I learned how to kite. Torrent and White Voodoo is a very effective combination if your careful. Since it's damage doesn't seem to be reduced by WV.

Also remember your only level 2x. At 29 we get a stun skill coupled with our AoE heal. One second of stun should be almost more than enough to kill a HA.

But again, your judging it way to early. It seems to me that Psychic won't be a godly dueling class. But in PvE they rock, and in from the looks of things, there debuffs/buffs in TW will be a major game-plan. Imagine a White Voodoo-d Psychic debuffing the barb's charm then blasting into him with wizard like spells.

Then, we have our stun shield. Even if it only fires once, it will definately help us manuever away from certain death, and if it works like soul of vengance, it won't matter if it's a barb, veno, or Archer.

Play the class a little more. Right now I'm damaging higher than wizards my level in PvE (I'm full-mag specced. 1 str 9 mag) I'm leveling faster than almost any other class and I can't even afford oracles.

Amouriv - Dreamweaver · December 2009

Zeilos - Lost City wrote: »

1. how good could ur armor be at 2x -.-
2. most sins are still learning to play their class so thats not saying much

PS. srry to sound like im flaming alot but ppl need to stop judging the new classes pvp viability at 2x <_<

most of the classes, you can judge their pvp ability from early level duels. Besides, if i dont duel now, i will look like an oracle noob in PK later. Its not only sins, but other classes as well. Sins are just the biggest threat to me with thier eveel teleport of doomz. My sin friend thinks he is special because he can beat me using all his mana and +2 lvl 30 mold daggers. While i can get him to 10% with white voodoo on and beat him with black voodoo.

Albacore - Dreamweaver · December 2009

Organism - Lost City wrote: »

Plus I've dueled a few other people, and lost EVERY duel. I vs. an assasin same lvl as me, used white voodoo and soul vengeance..attacked her and did barely any damage, she killed me in 2 hits. I used black voodoo + sould vengeance, she killed me in 1. How exactly is this class going to compare with other classes if they die in one hit? Thats crazy....crazy bad!

1. you cant stand there while you duel melee classes. learn to kite.
2. want better def without sacrificing too much attack level? roll light armor.

In duels with same / slightly higher level 'sins - I pwn.

aqua impact -> kite -> other starter skill (forget its name) -> repeat till dead.
you prob wont get hit but like 1 or 2 times. the LA you'd be wearing is gonna give you better pdef than the robes would. If you white voodoo, its even better, and you'll still deal decent damage to the guy. Remember that landslide can cancel channeling so if you're good enough - you can cancel those long channeling high damage skills (tempest, armageddon, etc). that skill owns as far as I'm concerned because its

A) not chance based

magic - so it never misses

just have to know you're timing like any good barb does for using alacrity of the beast, and clerics for purifying.

Tidelord - Dreamweaver_1386746192 · December 2009

Ok I have a lvl 80 wizzie and I can assure u, untill u reach the 60-70s, Wizzie SUX. Decent dmg, but not the nuker as he will be.

I had to use 3-4 skills at the start too to kill a mob. At lvl 80, i still need only 2-3-4 skills to kill a mob. 4 skills max to kill a mob is GREAT at higher lvls. especially with the pushback skill. Lvling is easy.

At my current lvl (32) I need 3 skills to kill a mob, and it casts alot faster than Wiz i noticed, I lvl faster. I really hope the skills remain good tho and not like the wizzie starter skills, which basically suck compared to the higher skills.
Only reason u use those in a combo is so the others cooldown is gone....

Organism - Lost City · December 2009

Aneurysmal - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Not money, just time, too much time... way too much time... I learned the game through my first time leveling to 90, then did it again 3 more times, since then it's just learning the class/build, so no harm in skipping the little b/s.

Well I suppose I can't judge you based on how much time you spend on the game. b:embarrass My baddddd.

After dueling my friend who 2shot me, I've dueled a few other sins. Beat one in 3 shots, and got killed by the second one because my 3rd skill didn't cast in time (the lag of west arch FTW!) Maybe my other friend is just really good at her class so far, and everyone else I've dueled doesn't know what they're doing.. She hit 400 something on me, the others only hit about 200.

And yeah, IK wizzies suck until a certain level, but I was also hearing about sins having a magic shield, so magic misses them? That just makes me more worried...

Giodia - Heavens Tear · December 2009

Organism - Lost City wrote: »

Everyone's talking about how great this class is and how great white voodoo + soulvengeance is and all that, but I don't get it. I've got weapon current for my level and armor current for my level, but I still feel like I'm doing something wrong. When I use white voodoo + soul vengeance the mobs still do ~70 dmg on me, killing me pretty fast. However, when I use black voodoo and just attack, mobs die in about 4 hits. I still feel like 4 hits is weak though, I thought we were supposed to be doing massive dmg?

Plus I've dueled a few other people, and lost EVERY duel. I vs. an assasin same lvl as me, used white voodoo and soul vengeance..attacked her and did barely any damage, she killed me in 2 hits. I used black voodoo + sould vengeance, she killed me in 1. How exactly is this class going to compare with other classes if they die in one hit? Thats crazy....crazy bad!

Could someone tell me what I'm doing wrong..?

I've updated every skill to my lvl, I've got the armor for my lvl, I've got the wep for my lvl, but still die like nothing. If a mob gets too close I die in like 5 hits cuz I've only got 500 hp and they hit ~120 per shot if I've got black voodoo on. ~70 with white voodoo. I don't really see how white voodoo is that great if they still hit that high though..It's all confusing me how everyone is saying the skills are awesome when Im looking at them thinking wtf is this.

Plus with white voodoo + soul vengeance it takes like 10 hits to kill a mob, 4 with black voodoo.

CONFUSING

As mentioned in a few threads, I have YET to die Even ONCE since Level 1.

There's always a viable option of kiting. If you cannot play Psychic well, I shudder to think on the number of death counts on your mage (should you make one)b:laugh

MagicHamsta - Lost City · December 2009

Giodia - Heavens Tear wrote: »

As mentioned in a few threads, I have YET to die Even ONCE since Level 1.

There's always a viable option of kiting. If you cannot play Psychic well, I shudder to think on the number of death counts on your mage (should you make one)b:laugh

what the heck?
who the heck dies before level 30....
b:chuckle
heck even me as a full arcane wizard could tank those pre 30 mobs.
b:surrender

Giodia - Heavens Tear · December 2009

MagicHamsta - Lost City wrote: »

what the heck?
who the heck dies before level 30....
b:chuckle
heck even me as a full arcane wizard could tank those pre 30 mobs.
b:surrender

You will be surprised that players do die at the Mines area outside archosaur.

Full aracane tanking? With good pdef shard or Citrines on good EQ...sure you can last just a wee bit longer to kill them at before level 30.

And isn't mage supposed to kite mobs, who in their correct state of mind would tank the mobs... suicide mage?

Am I missing something?

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